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frustrated with the lc thing
    #7961258 - 01/31/08 05:46 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

... i do not understand why god likes to pee on ne,. but i bet i have the worse luck with lc.... i had one and only one successful lc so far.. i have failed about 10... i have posted numerous posts on the subject...

except i still do not know how to make a successful lc.... i followed the same tek i was successful with the first time and have not been successfull since......

what the hell is the problem?????? does the water,sterilization,honey/karo/rawsugar make a difference?
cause i do not understand why it does not work.. i even placed two to three cc's of spores.....

is there a secret i am missing???? is sterilization the key or more then 2-3 cc's needed?????


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Re: frustrated with the lc thing [Re: tony8404]
    #7961379 - 01/31/08 06:13 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

I bet there is a problem with your spores or your sterile technique.


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Re: frustrated with the lc thing [Re: Nibin]
    #7961411 - 01/31/08 06:20 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

now that is the funny thing cause the one spore syringe i used that i had my first successful lc i still have and used to inoculate this round... so i know it was not the syringe of spores...

but i did notice stuff floating in my distilled water lc and this was after i had openeded the packet of raw sugar and added it to the lc is when i noticed i shook the jar up that stuff is floating in the baby bottle..

what the hell am i doing wrong??? i had one success and i followed the baby bottle tek...


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Re: frustrated with the lc thing [Re: tony8404]
    #7961523 - 01/31/08 06:44 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

Are you inoculating in a glovebox/still air box?


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Re: frustrated with the lc thing [Re: Nibin]
    #7962159 - 01/31/08 09:16 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

no i am not innoculating in a glove box or still air box.. how does that make a difference???? cause my first and only lc success was in neither of thoes.. i just did it as soon as i took the jar out the pc.. and inoculated it...


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Re: frustrated with the lc thing [Re: tony8404]
    #7962168 - 01/31/08 09:18 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

hey nibin,,, i see you like kramer???? right??? well, i just downloaded kramer and newmans sausage song from the blood episode... thats what i listen to when i make lc's and grains.. lol


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Re: frustrated with the lc thing [Re: tony8404]
    #7962980 - 02/01/08 12:18 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

Innoculating outside a glovebox increases the risk of introducing contaminants into an LC. Since a LC contaminates faster than you can say sausage, a good sterile technique is essential or it becomes russian roulette.


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Re: frustrated with the lc thing [Re: Nibin]
    #7963004 - 02/01/08 12:25 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

When using karo/raw sugar my LC's always seemed to fail or take months to grow out. The second I switched to honey I saw some serious growth. I inoculate open air also. Make a bunch of honey jars, innoc them all and then wait 5 days and throw out all the jars except your best few.


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Re: frustrated with the lc thing [Re: cosmoline]
    #7965091 - 02/01/08 02:08 PM (16 years, 13 hours ago)

assuming you follow measurements and simple directions/steps correctly; tell us what you are doing. time frame and all and maybe we can help you out.

a few quick jabs:
you say you inoculate right out of the pc. did you let it cool(roomtemp) first?

you asked if you should use more spores.
the main trick behind the LC is the ratio... this is easy for us because other people already figured out what works.
now perhaps you are using too much water in your mix. remember, every cc of spore solution you squirt in your LC adds a cc of water.
LC like 53cc/2cc of light karo. with about 1cc of spore solution.
edit: 4% is supposedly optimum


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Re: frustrated with the lc thing [Re: psilociety]
    #7965111 - 02/01/08 02:11 PM (16 years, 13 hours ago)

the glovebox could/couldnt matter depending on the tech. if you are taking off the lid to inoculate it then you need a glovebox.

What tech are you using? Are you pc'ing it? This is a must.
What type of lid are you using?
Spore syringes suck for lc's. it could be the syringe. has the syringe been used for a pf jar?


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Re: frustrated with the lc thing [Re: tahoe]
    #7965152 - 02/01/08 02:23 PM (16 years, 13 hours ago)

Try G2G, I had the same experience with LC, but not G2G, which I love.


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Re: frustrated with the lc thing [Re: Day Tripper]
    #7967427 - 02/02/08 01:20 AM (16 years, 2 hours ago)

I used Karo and injected 2cc into each jar and I noticed mycelium growth after four hours of inoculation. And I didn't use a glovebox.


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Re: frustrated with the lc thing [Re: pinc]
    #7967460 - 02/02/08 01:35 AM (16 years, 1 hour ago)

Four hours? O.o.......I'll say doubtful but I'll hold my reservations :smile:. If it was four hours good jaerb and keep up the good work.


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Re: frustrated with the lc thing [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #7967781 - 02/02/08 07:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I havent been able to get karo to work since they started putting real vannila in it. Cup water, tbls malt syrup, 1/8 tsp fructrose or dextrose, i like to boil and strain it, then jar and pc it...works everytime.


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Re: frustrated with the lc thing [Re: Gretchenmeister]
    #7967802 - 02/02/08 07:54 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

organic honey works like a charm!


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Re: frustrated with the lc thing [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #7967981 - 02/02/08 09:40 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

lc is gay... just do grain spawn from a live myc transfer... it will grow hella fast, and its not anywhere near as hard to fuck up as lc...

lc is a cute novelty, that everyone jocks hella hard, but most end up failing, only to try 10 to 50 times to get it right, when you can get GREAT results as spawn when you just use some grain spawn as opposed to lc... and most will succeed the first time with grain spawn, if they read well...

I said it before, and I will say it again... LC is bootsy... As fuck...


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