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So why do people us XVID for compression?
    #7960530 - 01/31/08 02:52 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

All of the XVID stuff I download is just horrible quality.

They say you can't really tell the difference, but you'd have to be blind not to see the blur and pixellation of everything...

Is there some kind of program you can use to clean up the quality of XVID stuff, or is it lost forever?


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Re: So why do people us XVID for compression? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7960552 - 01/31/08 02:56 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

I don't think so, I'm still looking for a better alternative


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Re: So why do people us XVID for compression? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7960577 - 01/31/08 02:59 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

I'm really technologically clueless.

Do people use it because of some certain reason? Whats the big gain you get with XVID? Compression?


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Re: So why do people us XVID for compression? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7960595 - 01/31/08 03:02 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

it helps if u get your xvid material from a better source. i d/l xvid converted dvd's all the time and play them on my big screen and they look great. i would much rather d/l the hddvd but my hard drive will not allow it.

people use xvid for the size. a standard dvd rip is usually 4 gigs, and xvid is only one. when done right, there is very little loss of quality.


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Re: So why do people us XVID for compression? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7960607 - 01/31/08 03:04 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

Maybe you have shitty codecs? I dunno. Try it in VLC media player. If it still looks shitty, you're downloading crappy video


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Re: So why do people us XVID for compression? [Re: Boom]
    #7960753 - 01/31/08 03:43 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

What converter do you use to put the Dvix on DVD?


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Re: So why do people us XVID for compression? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7960938 - 01/31/08 04:32 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

I have a real cheap dvd player that plays DivX - that's the way to go. Otherwise, you need something like DVD santa - I use NeroVision, that's real easy


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Re: So why do people us XVID for compression? [Re: iateshaggy]
    #7960994 - 01/31/08 04:41 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

> when done right, there is very little loss of quality.

If you know what to look for, the loss of quality can be pretty bad. Luckily, most people don't know what to look for, so it doesn't stand out. Once you see it (compression artifacts) though, it is hard to miss from then on.


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Re: So why do people us XVID for compression? [Re: Boom]
    #7961000 - 01/31/08 04:43 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

if u are just gonna convert to dvd, u should find a place to d/l .iso's or .img's. if u want to keep them as divx, u should get a dual output video card and run an output to your tv.


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Re: So why do people us XVID for compression? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7961763 - 01/31/08 07:35 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)


Here's a screen shot of a fairly popular movie that was converted to XVID by a release group. I'd have to say that all of the XVID videos I've seen are on that quality. Generally if they're a proper rip, and they still suck, they're nuked.

You can turn a 90 minute movie into 700 megs and burn onto a cd, or they do double discs(1.4 gig) and even 1/2 dvd rip(2.2 gig) sizes of movies. Not too shabby if you ask me. If they still aren't up to par, you aren't getting it from the right place.

If you are getting the right release and are still complaining, fork over $20 and get the DVD.


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Re: So why do people us XVID for compression? [Re: iateshaggy]
    #7962312 - 01/31/08 09:43 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

iateshaggy said:
if u are just gonna convert to dvd, u should find a place to d/l .iso's or .img's.  if u want to keep them as divx, u should get a dual output video card and run an output to your tv.





I do like downloading iso's, but they are much larger than a simple avi, and burning the avi to DVD takes like about an hour or so including encoding.

I usually just download the iso if it's a retail copy with the menu and everything.

As far as running it out from my comp to my TV, that's an annoying setup IMO.  My dvd player can play almost every video file I put on a disc, and I don't want to move my computer to where I watch TV :shrug:


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Re: So why do people us XVID for compression? [Re: daussaulit]
    #7963311 - 02/01/08 02:55 AM (16 years, 23 hours ago)

> Here's a screen shot of a fairly popular movie that was converted to XVID by a release group

Office Space?

A few of the common compression artifacts are visible in that scene, though it looks as if a FIR filter has smoothed them out, for the most part. However, many artifacts are motion related and cannot be seen in a single frame. There are also a lot of different types of frames (I, B, P). An index frame will (almost) always look better than a B or P frame. Pull a B or P frame from GOP with a lot of motion and texture and see what it looks like.


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Re: So why do people us XVID for compression? [Re: Seuss]
    #7963755 - 02/01/08 07:57 AM (16 years, 18 hours ago)

Xvid is much like Divx, but free, like ogg vorbis is much like mp3, without the license fees. If someone takes a 2 hour long film and compresses it to 700mb, you will get pixelation. But a 1.4gb rip is as good quality as dvd, as far as I can tell.

Of course, I have a big penis, so I don't have a 50 inch plasma telly with a sound system that can break windows, on a 19 inch monitor, I cannot discern the difference, unless it's a poor quality rip. In which case, re-encoding (using auto gordian knot, which is free and good) takes a while, but can be worth it if you have indexing issues.


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