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krypto2000
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: krypto2000]
#7962065 - 01/31/08 08:48 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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I normally don't get any visuals on mushrooms except things seem more vibrant until about 4 grams or so and then the floors will start to crawl and shit like that. One time though, on 3.5, we were watching tv and the image literally just stopped and then it went in reverse for about a second or 2 and then just jump back ahead to it's normal place. I don't claim that actually happened, I really have no doubt that it didn't as no one else could verify that, but very interesting none the less. I've never had anything else out of the ordinary happen though, but the most I've taken was 4 grams. Even then though I didn't have many visuals except for the first 2 hours and I could see sounds and all kinds of crazy shit.
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: krypto2000]
#7962232 - 01/31/08 09:30 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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Anything above two grams cool stuff starts happening. Once at 2.5 grams I could see patterns in the carpet and the a trail and started following it. When I ran out out carpet and hit the bath room, I turned around to look back at the carpet and I could see "Get off" in the carpet coolest thing ever. I fell over laughing.
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: newlife]
#7962318 - 01/31/08 09:44 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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lol, I think if my carpet told me to get off, I'd be kinda freaked out
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: krypto2000]
#7962461 - 01/31/08 10:11 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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Yeah Im actually surprised I didnt. I guess I knew right as I saw it that it was my mind fucking with me.
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: krypto2000]
#7962476 - 01/31/08 10:13 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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i thought trails were a result of your pupils being dilated, like when you open the aperture wider in a camera
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redgreenvines
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: daft crunk]
#7962547 - 01/31/08 10:26 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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open aperture lets more light in better for dark slower shutter speed gives smearing which is closer to trails esp if strobe light is used
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: redgreenvines]
#7963966 - 02/01/08 09:03 AM (16 years, 16 hours ago) |
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I never used to get visuals until around my tenth trip, now i get them all the time even from smoking weed, especially eating weed, i forgot i had a brownie last night and when i was tryihng to sleep i started hallucenating and was freaked out that i was flashbacking hard, just the brownie tho.
My dreams last night were so real it was kinda scary reflecting back onit 2day
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: origami.octopus]
#11325367 - 10/26/09 03:44 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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origami.octopus said: I dont know about how real the patterns are.
Its been proven that the patterns are coming from your own brain. They are just as real as your thoughts. It has to do with the synapses in the optic nerve and the visual cortex i believe. whats interesting about this is the patterns you see are in some way existing in your brain.
but the full blown immersive ones like angels and demons and new worlds, i have no idea...
the collective unconscious of existence? just a thought.
I can see how the patterns may be linked to synaptic junctions in the brain.. although I've seen some that totally blow my mind when questioning myself about how in the hell that was even possible .
Honestly though, how can you explain the "full blow immersive" trips that people can have on DMT/high doses of LSD/Mushrooms?
If you haven't read DMT: The Spirit Molecule, i suggest you do people!
It'll make you think twice about where these visions spawn.
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: Spiral11235]
#11325457 - 10/26/09 03:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spiral11235 said: Honestly though, how can you explain the "full blow immersive" trips that people can have on DMT/high doses of LSD/Mushrooms?
should have asked him 1 year 8 months ago.
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: origami.octopus]
#11325693 - 10/26/09 04:40 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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origami.octopus said: I dont know about how real the patterns are.
Its been proven that the patterns are coming from your own brain. They are just as real as your thoughts. It has to do with the synapses in the optic nerve and the visual cortex i believe. whats interesting about this is the patterns you see are in some way existing in your brain.
but the full blown immersive ones like angels and demons and new worlds, i have no idea...
the collective unconscious of existence? just a thought.
Ya, as far as patterns go I always kinda figured that your brain is constantly "looking" for patterns in the input from your all or our sensory inputs in order to recognize objects and make decisions. For instance, people who have been blind from early childhood and regain their eyesight later in life due to surgery or whatever, can see everyday objects but cannot interpret what they are and therefore how to react. So, these people end up still needing canes or seeing-eye-dogs for years until the can--for example--see a curb and know to step up and not trip. Perhaps psychedelics "overdrive" this process of recognizing patterns and, as a result, we discern many overlapping patterns as a result. haha, my two cents
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#11326767 - 10/26/09 06:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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crkhd
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: meinert]
#11326845 - 10/26/09 06:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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meinert said: Yall know you can see energy will sober right? Just think of the heat you can see coming off a road in the summer. This is energy. I know this would get amplified to a degree while tripping.. So I don't see why we couldn't see some energy that is really their, although we can't see it while sober. I don't know what this energy could be except from the heat you are transferring to the ambient air. and thus the trails would be the flow of this heat.
That's not energy. That's due to the path of light changing because the air is moving. We see these differences as movements.
You can't see "energy" because energy is simply a difference between two things in the simplest of terms, it's an abstract concept which is the foundation of reality. Time is similar, you don't claim to "see time".
Of course, this is energy as strictly defined in physics. Now if you want to talk about "spiritual energy" then sure, go ahead. I don't really have anything to say about that other than that I haven't seen any evidence that proves this exists, although I would kill to see this. Some people talk about crazy synchronistic experiences they've had, I think it was Grof who claimed that an entity contacted one of his LSD experiment subjects and gave them a number to dial, to pass on the message that a couple's kidnapped son was in good health. Now that, if real, would be amazing.
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: crkhd]
#11329652 - 10/27/09 03:58 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you have a link to that story?
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: krypto2000]
#11330125 - 10/27/09 08:13 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I made this thread a good while ago! Reading back over my replies & questions its hilarious how much ive woken up in just a couple years...
Having made an immense amount of progress in my development i now feel i can speak about it rather than ask questions about it...
I now get trails after meditating sober so i dont think its due to the brains processes being slowed down, you are seeing actual traces of energy that are there, you are just more conscious of it
I have times where i can see energy coming off everything & everyone, i can sense music in more ways than hearing, i can feel it and see it, particularly when people express with their hands when they speak i can see trails very similar to tripping aswell
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: Chronic7]
#11333098 - 10/27/09 05:23 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah totally not metaphysical energy
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: thedudenj]
#11333132 - 10/27/09 05:29 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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IDK about trails. I have gotten them ever since I was a young kid. I think it has something to do with either the brain or the nature of reality. It isn't just psychedelics causing it. I see trails on like my phone or any light and stuff more vividly since psychedelics but it is just more nnoticable than before. I would say it has to do with the nature of reality and the way your brain tries to understand that. Not your brain slowed at all though since it happened from the time I was a little kid.
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when i see trails it's like my mind is lagging my awareness continues to move forward in time but the picture i have painted for myself gets left behind something along those lines or maybe not...
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: deranger]
#11333382 - 10/27/09 06:03 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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perhaps were just more one pointed and observe something and chose to hold that image in our heads because were still thinking about it?
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deranger


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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: Don Juan]
#11333432 - 10/27/09 06:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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exactly
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Re: Are Trails Energy or Brain slowed down? [Re: deranger]
#11333448 - 10/27/09 06:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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except it's not so much a choice but a habit
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