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Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates
    #7959415 - 01/31/08 08:28 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

Rudy Giuliani, who is widely tipped to drop out of the Republican race today and endorse John McCain, admitted yesterday that "Ron Paul won all the debates" because of his resonating message of individual liberty and personal responsibility.

"Ron Paul won all the debates," stated Rudy Giuliani in his speech conceding defeat in the Florida Primary to John McCain. "Government works best when it empowers people to take responsibilities for their own lives.”

Such an admission is rare considering the size of Giuliani's ego and his numerous spats with Paul on the campaign trail

The two famously clashed during the second debate on Fox News in May of last year, when Giuliani challenged Paul's assertion that U.S. foreign policy increases the risk of terrorism.

The Texas Congressman also slammed Giuliani's support of a national ID card on an MSNBC appearance a month later.

Despite the fact that one vote per IP and phone number text polls consistently showed Ron Paul to be the winner in almost every debate, establishment hacks, Neo-Libs and Neo-Cons routinely denied the fact that the Congressman had come out on top.

Ron Paul's prediction that Rudy Giuliani would fail in Florida and be forced to quit appears to have been borne out by the former New York Mayor's poor showing in the Sunshine State.

Giuliani is set to back his fellow establishment Neo-Con McCain with the understanding that he would be rewarded by a role in a potential future McCain administration.

However, with Hillary Clinton being the elite's anointed one with the added luxury of favorable rigged voting machines, it seems McCain's role will be to act as a stooge and ensure the Clinton-Bush dynasty continues for at least another four years.

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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7959423 - 01/31/08 08:32 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

good read. thanks for posting that. and i am extremely surprised as i am sure most everyone is that reads this, that Rudy did this. it just seems so out of characterr for him.


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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: Syle]
    #7959454 - 01/31/08 08:46 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

I have a feeling Rudy was joking around... maybe being sarcastic


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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: BrAiN]
    #7959470 - 01/31/08 08:56 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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BrAiN said:
I have a feeling Rudy was joking around... maybe being sarcastic




doh! i'm naive what can i say...


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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: BrAiN]
    #7959609 - 01/31/08 09:54 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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I have a feeling Rudy was joking around... maybe being sarcastic




Gee... ya think?





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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: Phred]
    #7959879 - 01/31/08 11:30 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

For Rudy, it must be kinda embarrassing knowing that somebody like Ron Paul pulled in more delegates and lasted longer in the race for president. Talk about a serious upset... Now if only Billary and Huckabee would drop...

Speaking of Billary, did anybody catch hir (the Billy half) speech saying that 9/11 thruthers make "us" look like idiots. Hehe.


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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: Seuss]
    #7959970 - 01/31/08 12:10 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

I don't get it.

Did he mean "Us" the American people? Or was he saying that he is, himself, a 9/11 troofer?


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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7960531 - 01/31/08 02:52 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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I don't get it.

Did he mean "Us" the American people? Or was he saying that he is, himself, a 9/11 troofer?




I think he was referring to all of mankind. Maybe all mammals. Or all chordates. Or all expressions of life on this planet.


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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7960534 - 01/31/08 02:53 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

Yeah, I went and watched the video clip awhile ago.

Thanks for you insight though.


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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7960559 - 01/31/08 02:57 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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Madtowntripper said:
I don't get it.

Did he mean "Us" the American people? Or was he saying that he is, himself, a 9/11 troofer?




I think he was referring to all of mankind. Maybe all mammals. Or all chordates. Or all expressions of life on this planet.




i wonder, does a fart count as an expression of life?


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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: Syle]
    #7961062 - 01/31/08 04:57 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

this article is the worst thing I've ever read


If you watch the video, he says he's refering to Paul winning post-debate polling via text messaging or internet-based nonscientific surveys.


who the fuck wrote this swill?


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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: johnm214]
    #7961071 - 01/31/08 04:59 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

Alex Jones, go figure...


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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7961095 - 01/31/08 05:05 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

:rofl:

so that's what the jones report URL means?  Alex Jones?



good god, usually he just makes stuff up w/ no support.  Here he demonstrably lies.


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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: johnm214]
    #7963348 - 02/01/08 03:33 AM (16 years, 23 hours ago)

> Here he demonstrably lies.

No, no no... it's called entertainment.


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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: Syle]
    #7963388 - 02/01/08 04:27 AM (16 years, 23 hours ago)

Hopefully they will all admit defeat to Ron paul.


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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7964257 - 02/01/08 10:34 AM (16 years, 16 hours ago)

How do the democrats have "rigged voting machines" in their pockets all
of a sudden?

Did Diebold decide to vote dem this year?

Retarded...


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Re: Giuliani Admits Ron Paul Won All The Debates [Re: afoaf]
    #7964992 - 02/01/08 01:45 PM (16 years, 13 hours ago)



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