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auweia
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Re: Will the real Psilocybe subaeruginascens please stand up? [Re: CureCat]
#7939460 - 01/27/08 09:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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edited out
Edited by auweia (02/21/08 12:12 PM)
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CureCat
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Re: Will the real Psilocybe subaeruginascens please stand up? [Re: auweia]
#7939573 - 01/27/08 10:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, I said they were Shroomydans Ps. ovoideocystidiata photos when i posted them for reference.
Yes, the stipe was brown and tough, fibrous. Didn't snap cleanly at all.
These are my photos of the GGP/Oakland species:
You can kind of see how the stipe splits apart.
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auweia
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Re: Will the real Psilocybe subaeruginascens please stand up? [Re: CureCat]
#7939952 - 01/27/08 12:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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that I can see...very similar except for that waviness. Just haven't seen that yet
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Re: Will the real Psilocybe subaeruginascens please stand up? [Re: CureCat]
#7942128 - 01/27/08 07:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yep, those look like bluefoot, here's a few pictures that show some some wavy gilled bluefoot.
I've been told that bluefoot chips were planted in the bay area about 6 or 7 years ago.
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Re: Will the real Psilocybe subaeruginascens please stand up? [Re: falcon]
#7943071 - 01/27/08 10:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow, that last photo looks exactly like them....
Are those Ps. caerulipes or Ps. ovoideocystidiata??
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Will the real Psilocybe subaeruginascens please stand up? [Re: CureCat]
#7946362 - 01/28/08 05:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilocybe subaeruginascens, auweia 01/26/08 collection
Spores, 1000x
Cheilocystidia, 1000x
I noticed something interesting in this specimen - The tips of the cystidia (both cheilo and pleuro types) were often green. At first I thought it was a anomoly, but I saw hundreds of cystidia cells with green tips. When the cystidia is sticking out of a gill edge, it can look like a mushroom with a transparent stem and a green cap. It appears to be staining from psilocin degradation. It doesn't surprise me that random cells contain psilocin that likes to turn blue or green, but it almost looks like psilocin is concentrated in the tips of the cystidia.
Green tipped cheilocystidia can be seen in the next four pics:
Pleurocystidia, 1000x
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Re: Will the real Psilocybe subaeruginascens please stand up? [Re: CureCat]
#7946387 - 01/28/08 05:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's funny I was about an hour or two south of yosemite on a family trip, where we stopped to eat lunch. In a planter with lots of woodchips I found a patch of mushrooms, with a patch of mushrooms that macroscopically look like the mushrooms in this thread. They were extremely dried out which made it hard to describe the features, and I gave up on trying to identify them, I've only had experience in picking so-cal lawn subs, so I was a bit out of my league.
They seemed kind of psilocybish to me, but i'm very new to this so i'm not sure. They had whitish stems until you rubbed the white layer off and they were more tan/fleshy colored. And golden brown caps. I'm trying to propagate the mycelium i saved from them, so if that's successful i'll be posting a proper id request. They were strikingly similar to the pictures of the subaeruginascens though.
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Re: Will the real Psilocybe subaeruginascens please stand up? [Re: CureCat]
#7948543 - 01/28/08 11:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
CureCat said: Are those Ps. caerulipes or Ps. ovoideocystidiata??
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Re: Will the real Psilocybe subaeruginascens please stand up? [Re: falcon]
#7948687 - 01/29/08 12:09 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have seen the blue/green tipped cystidia on occasion with other species. It seems to be just a bluing reaction and isn't always present.
Example in link below.
http://www.sporeworksgallery.com/Section-Cyanescens/Unknown_Sanfran
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Re: Will the real Psilocybe subaeruginascens please stand up? [Re: falcon]
#7957319 - 01/30/08 07:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
falcaon said: I've been told that bluefoot chips were planted in the bay area about 6 or 7 years ago.
Edit: I've been told that a bluefoot looking psilocybe grew near Arcadia 6 or 7 years ago.
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Re: Will the real Psilocybe subaeruginascens please stand up? [Re: falcon]
#7958626 - 01/30/08 11:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
falcon said:
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falcaon said: I've been told that bluefoot chips were planted in the bay area about 6 or 7 years ago.
Edit: I've been told that a bluefoot looking psilocybe grew near Arcadia 6 or 7 years ago.
ok i wasnt going to say anything about this mainly cause i didnt get a pic of the mushroom, or keep the sample, but i may have seen one in bug sur in the sand, oak rubble, in between some rocks on the river bed in an area where the river used to be.
It reminded me of it at the time but i shrugged it off, but after i got back i saw one of the pics and the crazy wierd gills and remembered it from big sur.
most likely nothing though. I wish i got a picture.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Will the real Psilocybe subaeruginascens please stand up? [Re: Strophariaceae]
#25298488 - 06/29/18 08:02 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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The bay area Psilocybe subaeruginascens-like taxon is Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata. The ITS sequences from Auweia's SF collections match 100% with sequences from Ohio.
The real Psilocybe subaeruginascens matches 97% with Psilocybe ovideocystidiata - I have some sequences from a couple collections found in South Africa. They have caps that are lighter in color than P. ovoideocystidiata.
These are Psilocybe subaeruginascens:
https://mushroomobserver.org/128946 https://mushroomobserver.org/235235
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