Im sorry about that.
The thing is, I dont have anything against him, and he just lashed out and was being very serious about his diluted opinion of me.
I mean that was the most untrue shit I have ever read here at the shroomery and one person was trying to paint a picture of someone he clearly doesnt understand.
Before hitting his ignore button and after my pm that basically said, "that was ugly and unfair", he sent me a message saying that "im trying to scare people". What planet he lives on? I dont know.
Im probably the only person who ever shat on him for some assholish read between the lines type bullcrap/bad poetry, so I understand this to some degree, but that was along time ago.
Sorry if this spammed the thread. A heart felt reply didnt deserve the unfair and untrue bullshit he said.
Thats all I was saying.
That was just fucked up.
The shit I said was as real as the shroomery gets and he felt like he needed to shit on and skew that degree of honesty for what ever reason.
It sucks I know.
Im here to entertain myself, and give some good info.
Im sorry some asshole crossed me like that and I reacted. I dont take kindly to that sort of bullshit and interpretation. So I responded to that nut bar.
The devil?/????/???///////???/??? That fuckin guy..................lol
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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The clash between me and Yageman is superficial. I am a sour sweet apple, the first flavor is tart, then it releases sweetness. It does not turn. I think Yageman the opposite, if you bite deep the flavor of the language becomes fairly intense. I have stepped in, in the past, where I think his comments were too scary to impressionable people, but I am not doing that any more.
there is no fight, and I am not going to use him any more to illustrate what I mean by demons.
that said, the issue of flashbacks is a fascinating one. the whole idea of a mental process which continues as a runnaway forked thread (off of the main stream of consciousness) is interesting in two ways: one is that the stream of consciousness really has no srparate main stream component, (illusion of ego) all the ongoing changing content are parts of the whole singular consciousness stream (1). and the other is that a reaction context can proceed at the same time as another reaction context is proceeding, and our conduct normally results from marshalling these (edited) concurrent contexts together(2).
with psychedelic extension, each reaction context can proceed a lot farther than usual (longer lasting impressions and expressions), and the stream of consciousness can begin to seem populated with multiple independent beings.
It would be normal to have the stream populated with ideas briefly at cross purposes, for balancing influence, but the extension of psychedelic can turn each voice, motion or visual blip into an independent entity (seemingly).
Such "independence" of conflicting voices, actions, compulsions, images, in our social cutural environment suggests possession by demons, and people usually react wrongly to it. they interpret it to mean something permanent - even assuming they have done something wrong which brings up the guilt-devil-redemption kind of social conditioning.
Among the things that you might want to forget about an LSD experience but can't, is the sense of multiple threads in the stream of consciousness, the out of controlness of that, and any cultural judgements you have made about it. So for some people this leads to anxiety at the slightest imperfect sensation, and that anxiety builds via feedback into an emotional state which cascades into full absorption. That really is possible, likely and it can include a full halucinatory experience due to change of state of mind based upon the emotional feedback/absorption.
Anyway my approach to this is to be as calm and honest about the basic nature of mind and to consider the impermanence of things.
Also in the area of mind I think it is important to find a brotherhood in all people, but within the self to remain a lone wolf; i.e. not to believe that the self has to be a member of any social group simply from one experience. (e.g. the group of hopeless fallen lsd users, or the group of non-virgins who may as well now become prostitutes IYKWIM)
Edited by redgreenvines (02/02/08 06:28 AM)
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