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Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up
    #7956769 - 01/30/08 05:31 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

so my mom picked up this brochure from her friend on how to keep kids away from marijuana or whatever and it has a bunch of "facts" which they claim to be scientific and true. she's gullible as hell and since she accidentally ate my pot brownie, she's seen the "terrors" of weed and keeps trying to prove to me how bad it is for me trying to get me to quit.

here's some text from the brochure that make me :lol:

"Marijuana can lead to a host of health, social, and behavioral problems at a crucial time in kids' life"

"Smoking marijuana is just as bad as smoking cigarettes, and you already know how dangerous tobacco smoke is to your health."

"More kids enter drug rehabilitation for marijuana than for all other illegal drugs combined."

"If you're smoking marijuana, you could do things that jeopardize your future, like having sex or doing other drugs."


"Marijuana use is associated with violent behavior. Kids who use marijuana weekly are four times more likely to engage in violent behavior than those who don't."
^^^ this is just plain false :rofl:

time to light up a joint :rastamon:


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: razmablues]
    #7956784 - 01/30/08 05:33 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

To this day, the propaganda rolls in like shit through the drain pipes.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7956798 - 01/30/08 05:36 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

:rofl:


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7956812 - 01/30/08 05:39 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Most of those (except the violent behavior one) have a shred of truth to them. Obviously though, they are overhyped and hide the truth through supposedly non-normative statements


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7956813 - 01/30/08 05:39 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)



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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7956910 - 01/30/08 05:53 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

"Marijuana can lead to a host of health, social, and behavioral problems at a crucial time in kids' life"

This is more conjecture than fact.. True, teens should be getting out and engaging in healthy activity rather than being stoned and watching cartoon network all day long... However this line is greatly exaggerated.  Helen Lovejoy is out somewhere bellyaching "Someone think of the children!"


"Smoking marijuana is just as bad as smoking cigarettes, and you already know how dangerous tobacco smoke is to your health."


Actually cigaretessses are worse because of thier addictive properties, extra-additives, and frequency of use.  And no, I dont already know how dangerous tobacco smoke is to my health... why dont you try to brainwash me some more w/ your TV propaganda.

"More kids enter drug rehabilitation for marijuana than for all other illegal drugs combined."


I suppose this is a good thing, Marijuana is less mild than alcohol.
And is only ILLEGAL for political reasons.

"If you're smoking marijuana, you could do things that jeopardize your future, like having sex or doing other drugs."

And if im smoking marijuana, I could also paint my skin blue like a clown and walk in the middle of traffic with my pants down. Some things dont happen if you possess common sense.


"Marijuana use is associated with violent behavior. Kids who use marijuana weekly are four times more likely to engage in violent behavior than those who don't."

Yeah, if the motherfucker ganks your hershey bar.. and even then you'd still be too passive to do anything.  After reading this, youre four times more likely to kiss my ass.


time to light up a joint :rastamon:


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Cancer]
    #7956920 - 01/30/08 05:55 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

I think it's fucking hilarious that your mom accidentally ate your pot brownie.

I'm laughing irl as I type this.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: g00ru]
    #7956967 - 01/30/08 06:03 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

she went to the hospital, she thought she went insane... the concept is funny, but the reality of it guilt tripped me hardcore.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: razmablues]
    #7956976 - 01/30/08 06:04 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

After she came down, did she regret that the trip didn't last longer?
Did she beg you for more of the brownies? :lol:


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7956988 - 01/30/08 06:06 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

ha... her response was going to get me that brochure... i think they pumped her with thorazine or something to calm her down in the hospital, everyone thought it was a panic attack.

the only good thing she says came from it was it was delicious to have with her tea.


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    #7957463 - 01/30/08 07:48 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Chemy]
    #7957493 - 01/30/08 07:53 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

its funny how people say shit like that, a cop told me that it kills brain cells, then i told him how im graduating suma cum lada in math and ahead of schedule, he was like ya right
then i was like ya, right
then he shut up and gave me my ticket


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Coaster]
    #7957512 - 01/30/08 07:56 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

You are seriously in college?


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: razmablues]
    #7957552 - 01/30/08 08:01 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Wow.
That's amazingly stupid, and false.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Coaster]
    #7957679 - 01/30/08 08:25 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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its funny how people say shit like that, a cop told me that it kills brain cells, then i told him how im graduating suma cum lada in math and ahead of schedule, he was like ya right
then i was like ya, right
then he shut up and gave me my ticket




lol I've always though you were cool, but I must admit I would never have thought you were in college.

I guess you don't really put much effort into your typing.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: g00ru]
    #7957691 - 01/30/08 08:27 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

less time into typing=more time for shmokin


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Coaster]
    #7957709 - 01/30/08 08:31 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

shmokin anything can and will cause health problems :crazy2:


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Coaster]
    #7957775 - 01/30/08 08:45 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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then i told him how im graduating suma cum lada in math and ahead of schedule




...i'm skeptical, seeing as how you can't even spell summa cum laude. granted it's latin, but still.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: razmablues]
    #7957902 - 01/30/08 09:15 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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"More kids enter drug rehabilitation for marijuana than for all other illegal drugs combined."




That's because of all the diversion programs. Kids get busted with a joint and are made by the court, or their lawyer to go to rehab. It drastically reduces the sentence for drug charges.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #7957950 - 01/30/08 09:25 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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then i told him how im graduating suma cum lada in math and ahead of schedule




...i'm skeptical, seeing as how you can't even spell summa cum laude. granted it's latin, but still.



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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: blissedout]
    #7957955 - 01/30/08 09:26 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Man... if I'd known that marijuana would lead to sex I would have started toking a lot earlier than I did...


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: jjr]
    #7957964 - 01/30/08 09:28 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

lol Really!


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Coaster]
    #7957980 - 01/30/08 09:32 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

hahahaha... ya know out of all the anti-marijuana commercials I've pretty much only found two to be true...the one where the girl is flat on the couch and the one where the kid said I never went out and killed anyone, shot my friend with a gun I just sat in my friends basement...but I wasn't out riding my bike, playing sports, ect... My new fav is the one where the kid makes himself into a giant bud


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: jjr]
    #7958006 - 01/30/08 09:39 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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Man... if I'd known that marijuana would lead to sex I would have started toking a lot earlier than I did...




LOL... I was pretty stoned my first time, but I don't know if that caused it.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: MarijuanaCarman]
    #7958026 - 01/30/08 09:43 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

He makes himself a cocoon out of bud, but yeah that one is tight.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Innominate]
    #7958068 - 01/30/08 09:55 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

We have a mother's against drunk driving ad on TV here with a talking alien on a guy's t-shirt.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: kit_kat]
    #7958098 - 01/30/08 10:02 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

because everyone knows that alcohol makes tshirts talk.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: kit_kat]
    #7958105 - 01/30/08 10:02 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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We have a mother's against drunk driving ad on TV here with a talking alien on a guy's t-shirt.



Whenever you see a talking alien in TV ads, you know you better take them seriously. :lol:


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7958151 - 01/30/08 10:10 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

its funny and sad at the same time...


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: razmablues]
    #7958268 - 01/30/08 10:30 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

all that shit is true...maybe not for you, but for others. for instance, you think it's not true that pot smoke is bad for your health like cigarettes? well it is and you're wrong. it's bad for your lungs, and that's not rocket science man.

the statistic about violence and pot pertains to surveys taken when people are incarcerated for violent crimes. for instance whenever some ghetto kid slinging crack is arrested for assault it's probably safe to say he smokes herb, since pretty much everyone does smoke herb, so they take instances like that and use them in their statistics. it's a little lopsided, but not entirely untrue.

i'm not saying that smoking pot is bad, but i was expecting way more outrageous "factual" claims then the ones i read in this thread


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7958277 - 01/30/08 10:32 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

jonny ur dumb cigs kill thousands every year
and weed kills............o ya thats right it DOESNT


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Coaster]
    #7958289 - 01/30/08 10:35 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

so smoking pot doesn't effect your lungs negatively? is that what you're saying? if so, you are wrong.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7959485 - 01/31/08 09:04 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

He would have to be totally blind in regards to his own body to say that mj doesn't affect his lungs/breathing. Mj is an expectorant, though. It helps you to hack up any funk in your lungs, but it also causes some of that funk in the first place. I just need to invest in a vaporizer.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7959764 - 01/31/08 10:53 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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so smoking pot doesn't effect your lungs negatively? is that what you're saying? if so, you are wrong.




Sure it affects yours lungs. It can leads to pulmonary comlications like emphazyma. There are at least two cases on the record of people under 30 who smoked pot (but not cigarettes) developing emphezyma. So that's obviously not good.

But pot will not give you lung cancer. Straight up.

Scientists have identified many of the same carcinogens in cannabis smoke as in tobacco smoke. Scientists have also observed the developement of precancerous legions in the lungs of marijuana smokers. But when they actually did a long term populational study to put the issue to rest, here's what they found (with respect to cancers of the mouth, lung, and throat):

People who smoke cigarettes get shitloads of cancer (duh).
People who smoke both cigarettes and pot get significantly less cancer (cool).
People who don't smoke anything get cancer once in a while.
People who smoke pot get cancer a touch less frequently than that.

And bear in mind the scientists who did this study honestly expected to prove smoking pot causes cancer.

As to the rest of the points on the brochure, there really is a shade of truth in each (except the violence one... only lack of weed would make me violent)


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Entropymancer]
    #7959808 - 01/31/08 11:06 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

lol weed makes you violent my ass! i've been in like 5 fights in my 24 years on this planet, none of which have been started by me, and i smoke weed when ever i can get my big filthy hands on it,

if i could i would stay high 24/7 365 (366 on leap years), everything is funner and funnier when stoned,

and i could careless if its bad for me, you only get to live once why not enjoy it while we can, life is too short to be a goodie goodie



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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: razmablues]
    #7959825 - 01/31/08 11:12 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

"Marijuana can lead to a host of health, social, and behavioral problems at a crucial time in kids' life"

"Smoking marijuana is just as bad as smoking cigarettes, and you already know how dangerous tobacco smoke is to your health."



you can laugh at that, but it's true. get a grip.


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    #7959877 - 01/31/08 11:30 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

is that you in your avatar?


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: razmablues]
    #7959883 - 01/31/08 11:32 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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"Marijuana use is associated with violent behavior. Kids who use marijuana weekly are four times more likely to engage in violent behavior than those who don't."
^^^ this is just plain false :rofl:




Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this was true.

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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: jewunit]
    #7959950 - 01/31/08 12:00 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

I have never felt violent from smoking the herb.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: jewunit]
    #7959957 - 01/31/08 12:05 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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Quote:

razmablues said:
"Marijuana use is associated with violent behavior. Kids who use marijuana weekly are four times more likely to engage in violent behavior than those who don't."
^^^ this is just plain false :rofl:




Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this was true.

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i couldn't resist, just too sexy.

and no that's not me, dont try to hit on me.

and to most people responses, yes these things can be true, but more often than not they aren't, and what bothers me most is only the fact they they are presented as 100% facts, when its so situational.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: razmablues]
    #7960027 - 01/31/08 12:35 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

"Marijuana can lead to a host of health, social, and behavioral problems at a crucial time in kids' life"


I don't see any false statement here. They were careful enough to use the word Can, and that's true, it can lead to those things. As someone else pointed out, it can effect your lungs. As many other posters on many forums have pointed out, anxiety in social situations can result from being high.

The question is whether or not Marijuana itself is the cause of these things, and again, the phrasing was careful enough to say that marijuana Leads to this. In other words, even if it isn't the direct cause, it can be a factor in what is the real cause.


"Smoking marijuana is just as bad as smoking cigarettes, and you already know how dangerous tobacco smoke is to your health

This one is very subjective, and therefore hard to defend. Yeah, I'd say they were definitely going for the "everyone knows smoking is bad" to get parents on their side.


"More kids enter drug rehabilitation for marijuana than for all other illegal drugs combined."

I couldn't find anything to support or disprove this claim. I don't really doubt it though, as the most commonly used illegal drug a kid uses pre-18 is Marijuana, thus allowing parents to send their kid to rehab for it. Again, I don't see the disinformation.

"If you're smoking marijuana, you could do things that jeopardize your future, like having sex or doing other drugs."


Sounds true enough to me. You very well could do those things as a result. You could also not, which is what the word Could implies.


"Marijuana use is associated with violent behavior. Kids who use marijuana weekly are four times more likely to engage in violent behavior than those who don't."


Why are you so sure it's false? I know that for myself personally, I have been in a LOT more violent situations as a result of the people I know through marijuana alone. All they're saying, is that marijuana is linked to it, not necessarily the cause. Sounds like they're using a statistic they found in a study.



The only problem I see with this, is that people see what they want to. A parent sees the evil nature of marijuana, while the user sees blatant lies. I see a slanted argument that was overall pretty careful to NOT lie.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Kickle]
    #7960165 - 01/31/08 01:21 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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The only problem I see with this, is that people see what they want to. A parent sees the evil nature of marijuana, while the user sees blatant lies. I see a slanted argument that was overall pretty careful to NOT lie.




It was careful not to lie explicitly. It definitely hypes up some of those "facts" and many of them cannot be proved or disproved.

I'd say there's a possible grain of truth in all of them, even the violence issue.

However, they're also using the term "kid" which makes it vague and implies underage use at the same time.

Regardless, it's propaganda whether it lies obviously or not.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Kickle]
    #7960171 - 01/31/08 01:25 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

i never feel any anxiety in social situations when stoned, i do when I'm sober but when I'm stoned I'm a chill guy ready to meet you your brother your friends whoever,

allot of those statements in that brochure could be true for some people, but you don't hear them saying anything about all the great affects, weed is a major anti depressant for me, i would have killed myself when i was a young teen (in-fact i tried to a few times) if i hadn't started smoking the good herb,

and also cannabis is the best sleep aid known to man (for me) i never have a fuller more restful sleep then after a bowl,


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Entropymancer]
    #7960185 - 01/31/08 01:30 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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But pot will not give you lung cancer. Straight up.

Scientists have identified many of the same carcinogens in cannabis smoke as in tobacco smoke. Scientists have also observed the developement of precancerous legions in the lungs of marijuana smokers. But when they actually did a long term populational study to put the issue to rest, here's what they found (with respect to cancers of the mouth, lung, and throat):

People who smoke cigarettes get shitloads of cancer (duh).
People who smoke both cigarettes and pot get significantly less cancer (cool).
People who don't smoke anything get cancer once in a while.
People who smoke pot get cancer a touch less frequently than that.

And bear in mind the scientists who did this study honestly expected to prove smoking pot causes cancer.




All that you say is true and in case anyone was wondering if there is documentation to back this up, there is. Washington Post


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7960936 - 01/31/08 04:32 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

ya cause the media NEVER lies, if its printed then it has to be true :rolleyes:


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Kickle]
    #7961105 - 01/31/08 05:07 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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"If you're smoking marijuana, you could do things that jeopardize your future, like having sex or doing other drugs."


Sounds true enough to me. You very well could do those things as a result. You could also not, which is what the word Could implies.



I only really disagree with you on this one. I don't think anyone has sex or does other drugs as a result of smoking weed. That's purely speculation. There are no studies that I'm aware of that show any direct correlation between smoking weed and having sex. Other drugs, yeah maybe, but again, I think it's more if you're the sort of person who would break the law and smoke weed you are more likely to be the sort of person who breaks the law in other ways than a direct result of marijuana use.

The whole thing seems carefully worded and obviously slanted, but except for this point, I can see a grain of truth in all of their points.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: dutchmushroom]
    #7961107 - 01/31/08 05:08 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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i never feel any anxiety in social situations when stoned, i do when I'm sober but when I'm stoned I'm a chill guy ready to meet you your brother your friends whoever,

allot of those statements in that brochure could be true for some people, but you don't hear them saying anything about all the great affects, weed is a major anti depressant for me, i would have killed myself when i was a young teen (in-fact i tried to a few times) if i hadn't started smoking the good herb,

and also cannabis is the best sleep aid known to man (for me) i never have a fuller more restful sleep then after a bowl,


peace out Dm




I'm glad that marijuana helps you, I really am.

And of course they aren't going to be discussing the good uses of marijuana, as their goal is quite the opposite. If you're a Republican, you are probably going to talk up the Republican party, as well as slander the Democratic. Does that mean that the Democratic party is all bad? No. Do you believe that because a person who believes that Republican ideals are better is an evil individual? I don't, and I also don't think that people who are against marijuana are evil either.

We all have our weird beliefs, and if someone thinks that marijuana is the cause of problems, so be it. I'm not going to give them more evidence that it is, but I'm also not going to call the evidence that is there a lie.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: mayfly]
    #7961138 - 01/31/08 05:14 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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mayfly said:
Quote:

Kickle said:
"If you're smoking marijuana, you could do things that jeopardize your future, like having sex or doing other drugs."


Sounds true enough to me. You very well could do those things as a result. You could also not, which is what the word Could implies.



I only really disagree with you on this one. I don't think anyone has sex or does other drugs as a result of smoking weed. That's purely speculation. There are no studies that I'm aware of that show any direct correlation between smoking weed and having sex. Other drugs, yeah maybe, but again, I think it's more if you're the sort of person who would break the law and smoke weed you are more likely to be the sort of person who breaks the law in other ways than a direct result of marijuana use.

The whole thing seems carefully worded and obviously slanted, but except for this point, I can see a grain of truth in all of their points.




I see what you're saying. I was speaking from my personal experience. I'm much more likely to screw my girlfriend while stoned, because it makes the sexual feelings all that much more intense. Like eating food can be a completely different experience while high, so can sex.

I found myself using marijuana mostly as a sexual tool for quite a while. So from my experiences, I can see how the point could be made that individuals are more likely to have sex when using marijuana.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Kickle]
    #7961219 - 01/31/08 05:38 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

I see what you mean. From my personal experience, my sex drive doesn't change when I'm stoned, so for me that statement would be inaccurate. But I've yet to see any study that proves that either of us are right, so I think that's an unprovable supposition on their part.

Slightly off topic, it's also debatable whether or not having sex or using other drugs "jeopardizes your future"--many people, impressionable teens included, have sex and do drugs without jeopardizing their futures in any way. Do some people? Yes. Do all? No. They also don't bother to use language like "may" or "could" here, they go right out and say that it will jeopardize one's future.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #7961221 - 01/31/08 05:38 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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ya cause the media NEVER lies, if its printed then it has to be true :rolleyes:




Don't roll your eyes at me.

This was printed in the Washington post, based on findings done by doctors at UCLA. So who, in your opinion is lying, and why? The fine people at the washington post or the specialists at UCLA? I would like to know what credentials you carry that gives you any clout to disprove the findings. Are you an investigative journalist? PhD of medicine? Could you provide links to your own research?

Unless you provide some sort of substantive prove that there is a conspiracy between the washington post and ucla, why should I believe your assertion that either institution is lying?

The study predicted that they would find a correlation between lung cancer and smoking pot. So if there were an incentive to lie, the incentive would be to lie and say that there is correspondance between marijuana use and lung cancer.

But you probably didn't even read the article that I provided, did you?

Instead of being lazy and assuming that everything around you is a conspiracy theory just because that way you don't have to actually read or think, do society a favor and actually read the article and provide intelligent criticisms, or just don't even open your mouth to begin with.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7961347 - 01/31/08 06:05 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

:lolz0rz:  well said


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7961440 - 01/31/08 06:26 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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But you probably didn't even read the article that I provided, did you?




heh
guilty as charged, i just felt like being cheeky, no reason to get your feathers all ruffled up


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #7961532 - 01/31/08 06:46 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

nah, he has a reason, you kind of put him off as a fool for believing the washington post, without even looking into the evidence he provided.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: razmablues]
    #7961553 - 01/31/08 06:49 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

This wouldn't happen to be a brochure that says "Stoned Cold Stupid" on the front of it would it? I believe I've seen a brochure that had that and mentioned all of those "facts".


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: frisky_]
    #7961568 - 01/31/08 06:51 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

Marijuana makes your brain bleed.
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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7961582 - 01/31/08 06:52 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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Marijuana makes your brain bleed.
End of story.



i thought that was mdma :tongue2:
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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #7961614 - 01/31/08 06:58 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

Someone needs to engineer a virus that causes the brain to produce LSD molecules in place of serotonin.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7961630 - 01/31/08 07:03 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

nah that could get annoying
rather a device that can be activated by a specific neural signal that releases a specified amount of lsd directly into the bloodstream :thumbup:


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #7961649 - 01/31/08 07:05 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

The beauty of my method is that it cannot be outlawed.


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Re: Marijuana Brochure my mom picked up [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7961666 - 01/31/08 07:09 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

u just have to have it implanted and have like a catheter coming out where u can refill it with anything u want, needleless iv :syringe:


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    #7961976 - 01/31/08 08:27 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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