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badman


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: P.Menace]
#10284084 - 05/04/09 02:31 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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My KSSS MS to agar is pinning like mad in the petri dish. KSSS i grew has 1-3 inches but still lots of differnt looking shrooms and differing colours. This is also rapid from LC (1 PF pint 70-80% 8 days), pinning 5-7 days and many primordia form. Mean yeild of 3 PF pints was just above 50g (first flushes.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: badman]
#10285206 - 05/04/09 05:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad Merlyn said: now I know that most cubes are about the same for potency but have slightly varying experiences. Some have waves of fun, some hit you in the head a little more, some taste worse than others but the fact of the matter is 4g of cubensis is 4g of cubensis.
has anyone documented what the varying experiances from differnt strains are like?
i've never seen any info on it.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: kingjames488]
#10285499 - 05/04/09 06:25 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not scientifically, nope. Sorry.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: P.Menace]
#10285553 - 05/04/09 06:33 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I currently grow only the "Mazateca" sub-type of P. Cubnesis. I just love the name and the fact they're from Mexico, where some of the oldest athropological records of mushroom use are located. Also, I'm half-mexican so that's cool too.
Anyway, is anyone else in this thread growing "Mazateca" like me? Am I alone? A couple of grows ago, I grew some monstrous-sized Mazateca's, like in the animated photo below:

My question to you Mazateca growers out there: Is large Mazateca's mushrooms common or rare? What about for other Mexican-origin mushrooms? Or is the distrubution of small/medium/large mushrooms normal for all mushroom sub-types?
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#10285870 - 05/04/09 07:16 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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has anyone documented what the varying experiances from differnt strains are like?
i've never seen any info on it.
just in the trip report forum here on shroomery is all Ive seen.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: 13shrooms]
#10301416 - 05/07/09 08:55 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am looking for information on the A+ strain of Ralph's. I am looking for it's origins, and pictures. A few notes on it from what I have seen very strong culture growth, With fast colonization, six days to colonize 500grms of wheat grain,{A quart mason jar} with a 50gram H poo addition. At a temp of 80F {air temp of incubator}. Pin set has been slow due more to environment then any thing else. Any one else have grown this strain of Ralph's out? Got pictures? Please post them.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: mule]
#10307905 - 05/08/09 12:35 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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AFOAF has 12 jars of pesa and 12 jars of equadoran colonizing in identical conditions on BRF/PFTek jars - the pesa are universally behind the EQ - is this possibly a strain characteristic or is a bum syringe more likely to blame?
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: JohnnyConverse]
#10308610 - 05/08/09 03:04 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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possibly a strain characteristic
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: badman]
#10309700 - 05/08/09 07:12 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hi ppl, need some help here.. got a few feedback on the outlook of my grow project, but i hopping for more comments...
This pic is where i got my spores from, from hunting outside... found em growing in dung.. thought it was tropicalis but someone mentioned that its Pan cyan..(blue-meanie?)

After retriving the spores and successfully colonizing them in jars, i moved them to fruiting chambers, and this pic shows their progress after about 11 days or so..
note that those in yellow..(totally white pin heads) are they normal?? note those in red...(fingers like thingy) wat bout these, are they normal also?? Anyone experienced growers??
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: carbonsteel]
#10309736 - 05/08/09 07:21 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have to say carbonsteel, that is one cool picture of the mushrooms pinning! You can see so much detail and vivid color. Well taken photograph.
By the way, from the looks of it, the mushrooms you gathered are in fact Pan. Cyans. However, I most note that I have no experience with Pan. Tropicallis. I do however, have experience with Pan. Cyans., since I used to pick it off cow patties back in Hawaii. I'm not really sure what the difference between Pan. Cyans. and Pan. Tropicallis are, but I'm sure the difference is slight since they are related. I've seen info on that from searching within the Shroomery, so try searching "Pan Cyans".
Sadly, I can't say if the pins are "normal", since I've never grown Pan Cyans, but from my knowledge of P. Cubenis, the pins do look healthy.
One question for you: What is that tan-brown colored stuff in-between the pinning heads? Is that straw?
Let Me know, I'm Curious
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#10310141 - 05/08/09 08:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea, they are straws.. first time growing so i use subsitutes for most stuff including vermiculite.. any comments on the red boxed pics?? the fingers like thingy?? they look normal to anyone?
damn sure i have no oysters around me... but does those in red looks like oysters to anyone?
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: RogerRabbit]
#10310917 - 05/08/09 11:56 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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allright...apparently pinned threads gets completely over looked by yours truly (which shouldn't be too surprizing considering in most other sections of the site the ones up top are just asinine crap like 'codes of conduct' or 'rules of the forum' or other such shit that's pretty much common knowledge anyhow) so you'll have to excuse my previous thread about strain suggestions
but seeing as I'm in the proper section now - let me explain what I mean:
many years back I got real gung-ho about growing shrooms myself here, and went all out and spent a small fortune on every little gadjet / gizmo / doo-hickey you could imagine in this field (everything from jars, to filter discs, to several different types of growing medium, to pretty much anything else that was even remotely related to growing mushrooms) and as I'm sure you could probably guess - I learned real quick like that mushroom cultivation was more art form then anything else...and that having every toy in the book didn't mean shit if you didn't have the practice to know how to use em
so I failed again and again and again (over cooking substrate / understeralyzing my equipments / fill in the blank)
it was around that time when mycobags were first introduced...and consequently - I finally managed to grow my first flush (fucked up horribly trying to re-use the already grown mycelium clump for farther flushes...but I got to trip at least ONCE god damn it) so I finally accepted the fact that I sucked at growing shrooms, and gave up on the idea of ever figuring out that magic touch it takes to get these things to work properly, and just continued to fall back on mycobags every six months or so when I started feeling like it was about that time again...and I always used the same damn strain for the proceedure - stropharia cubensis, if I remember correctly (some strain I got from fanticus.com that was listed as being the king when it came to hyphal knot formation, or some shit)
but I haven't even attempted to try an grow shrooms for a number of years here / and fanaticus, it seems, is no longer with us / so now I'm curious about a comperable strain that'll get the job done...even fora fool witha black thumb like me
I'm not worried about repeat flushes here (cause I already know I'm not gonna get that far with these bad boys regardless) and size / shape / yeild / whatever isn't particularly important either - I just want something that will colonize with the quickness, and almost certainly fruit first time around...so any suggestions you got fora strain like that would be certainly appreciated
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Muppet]
#10311147 - 05/09/09 01:03 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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any P.cubensis will do you right, they all have the same growth parameters and all will buzz you good. Ralphstersspores.com(my fav) has the biggest selection to see various strains of cubensis. just pick the ones that look coolest to you. Sporeworks.com is a very good site also but stick to P.cubensis for ease of growing.
for the best upto date info get or at least watch these vids at www.mushroomvideos.com check my journal to see my project. very easy, I have links in my sig for bulk growing and feel free to PM me 4 any questions if you need.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: 13shrooms]
#10314405 - 05/09/09 08:32 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Okay here's a strain question. Anyone got any experience growing Thai Mystery? I picked some up from Ralphsters, knocked my jars up on 5/3 or 5/4, and I have yet to see any growth in any of them. I'm worried my substrate might be too dry (I'm PFing it this time around) but I still think it's really strange I've got 11 jars doing nothing, not even getting contaminated (well, I did lose one).
I've got another 12 jars of B+ going, and I've got ZERO contams and explosive, rhizomorhpic growth in most jars. I knocked those up on 4/29 and I'm thinking they should all be ready to fruit by thursday.
Am I being unrealistic? Has the B+ spoiled me? The only think I can think of are two factors: air exchange or temp. The temp flucuates between 69 and 76 degrees according to the digital thermometer I've got, and I'm sure when it dips below 70 the growth probably slows down considerably. I've got a heater in the closet now to attempt to bring the temps up to the 75-80 range.
Also, air exchange. Before they start fruiting, I seal the tops of the jars up with micropore tape, to prevent contaminants but allow exchange of oxygen. Maybe the dry verm is sticking to the tops of these and blocking the holes?
I've got 11 MORE jars of Texas strain I knocked up yesterday, and hopefully those are going to do better. They are in native territory after all, lol.
Any ideas? Any information you guys need that I might have missed?
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: 13shrooms]
#10316809 - 05/10/09 11:46 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I dont know, B+ went slower for me lol.
GT is my current fav. ralphsters syringe colonized a jar fairly fast with nice, healthy looking growth. then the print i took from one is doing the same :> maybe its just my lucky strain lol.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: kingjames488]
#10319083 - 05/10/09 08:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Stuck a space heater in the room. Jacked the temps up to 80 degrees. Came home from work today and there was wispy mycelium starting to sprout in some jars, but also some yellowish growth. I've been reading and I'm hoping it's just metabolites (i think that's the word). But I'm trying a wait and see on those jars. Luckily, not all of them have it. So now I'm just waiting on the Texas.
B+ Is totally a winner though, so far.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: guywiththegun]
#10319334 - 05/10/09 09:21 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yellow is metabolites... probably so plentiful 'cause your room is so hot.
Heating a room to 80 with a space heater is not only unnecessary, it is unsafe. Room temp is fine.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Rose]
#10319651 - 05/10/09 10:08 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I dunno. Honestly I'm seeing a difference, but I don't exactly know if I'm perceiving it or what. The B+ def is growing faster...it had grown by a half inch or more in the 9 hours I was at work. I don't know if it's the heat or the fact I took the tape off those jars, as they're all pretty much colonized.
I'm pretty hyped. Those B+ are totally ready to rock in a few days, at least some of em...I think a couple of others might need a time longer, but we'll see. I really should start a grow log.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: guywiththegun]
#10319702 - 05/10/09 10:17 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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It is a waste of electricity and it is unsafe. Incubation is an outdated tech. Space heaters are terrible. But this is not really the thread for such discussion.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: guywiththegun]
#10319712 - 05/10/09 10:20 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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You should see a difference in growth rate, guywithagun.
According to Paul Staments book "The Mushroom Cultivator", the optimum ambient temperature for myclium colonization is between 84 to 86F. You're pretty close to that range at 80F ambient. Just make sure the jars aren't too close to that space heater: this type heater has a drying effect on ambient air. If the jars are too close, the heater will dry out the substrate and slow-down/halt growth.
Good luck with your "B+", frankly I'd aim for at least an "A-", you'll get better results .
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