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muddypotter
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: dead]
#9627977 - 01/17/09 07:04 PM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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In my experiance the cambodians tend to be a very very low potency shroom.
Complete and utter bullshit.
. As I stated opinions vary. But the cambo I grew was schwag. Out of 1/4 lb only 2 ppl claimed they was good. I've been eating shrooms for 17 yrs and cambos was weakest I've ever seen. So no it isn't utter bullshit. But you are prob to young to know difference on anything. So ill let you pretend there good if that's what makes you feel better.
Edited by muddypotter (01/17/09 07:08 PM)
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: muddypotter]
#9628981 - 01/17/09 10:47 PM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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Some of the MOST potent I've ever had were cambos. That's why the whole discussion of named strains is silly. With multispore inoculation, you never know what you're going to get. RR
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9629233 - 01/17/09 11:37 PM (15 years, 14 days ago) |
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Everyone, REMEMBER a cube is a cube! but for shits and giggles, whats your favorite "strain" what have you had most luck with on cakes. We have to have some kind of control, right? Which, grew fastest ,biggest yielded most ect...
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muddypotter
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: schutzemdown]
#9629368 - 01/18/09 12:11 AM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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RR. Your not the first I've heard say that. But mine being multispore syringe from Lsos. So that may have been the problem. Recently. However back to strain discussion. I have 8 kinds of cubes going now. Oi. Eq tex ks.pr maza brazil and pesa and out of these eight the koh samui has incredible colonization speed
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spock
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9630842 - 01/18/09 09:04 AM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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What's up with penis envy? It doesn't really look like a cube. I've never seen one hollow like cubes sometimes are. In my experience they are more potent consistently. Is it just me? Roger, you've said a cube is a cube with the exception of PE. Why? Is PE even a cube. If so then the saying a cube is a cube is not as true.
We all know the koh samui , the professor fanaticus and the texas spores sold by the sponsors here are all cubes. Most with experience growing them would agree that "pfcs" tend to abort a lot, the koh samuis tend to be short fat and knobby and the texas tend to be small and much more dense than your average cube. I am in no way saying that by isolation you can't get much different results but that multispore will lean towards these tendencies. That being said, is a cube a cube is a cube? I agree that this is the bastard stepchild of a thread that will not go away .
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dead
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: spock]
#9630987 - 01/18/09 09:59 AM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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But you are prob to young to know difference on anything. So ill let you pretend there good if that's what makes you feel better.
And I'll let you pretend you know something about cultivation of mushrooms. Such as the fact that no "commercial strain" is weaker or stronger than any other, with multispore your results will vary every time.
But hey, that's ok. Many inexperienced growers who are "too young to know the difference" between an isolated strain and a multispore-based conglomeration of strains make the same mistake: growing a strain for the first time from MS, getting weak shrooms due to genetic variability and making the faulty assumption that the strain is weak.
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muddypotter
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: dead]
#9631118 - 01/18/09 10:33 AM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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But you are prob to young to know difference on anything. So ill let you pretend there good if that's what makes you feel better.
And I'll let you pretend you know something about cultivation of mushrooms. Such as the fact that no "commercial strain" is weaker or stronger than any other, with multispore your results will vary every time.
But hey, that's ok. Many inexperienced growers who are "too young to know the difference" between an isolated strain and a multispore-based conglomeration of strains make the same mistake: growing a strain for the first time from MS, getting weak shrooms due to genetic variability and making the faulty assumption that the strain is weak.
. Very well spoken! And you are correct. I did use ms. So therefore. I had no conclusive evidence. But my cambos was very weak is all I was sayin. I'm sending you a 5 shroom rating. Thanks
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: muddypotter]
#9631274 - 01/18/09 11:05 AM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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Hey, no problem. I'll give you a rating too.
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schutzemdown
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: dead]
#9631390 - 01/18/09 11:23 AM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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I don't think age has anything to do with it, more like lack of experience!
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Rose
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: spock]
#9635113 - 01/18/09 10:34 PM (15 years, 13 days ago) |
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spock said: What's up with penis envy? It doesn't really look like a cube. I've never seen one hollow like cubes sometimes are. In my experience they are more potent consistently. Is it just me? Roger, you've said a cube is a cube with the exception of PE. Why? Is PE even a cube. If so then the saying a cube is a cube is not as true.
We all know the koh samui , the professor fanaticus and the texas spores sold by the sponsors here are all cubes. Most with experience growing them would agree that "pfcs" tend to abort a lot, the koh samuis tend to be short fat and knobby and the texas tend to be small and much more dense than your average cube. I am in no way saying that by isolation you can't get much different results but that multispore will lean towards these tendencies. That being said, is a cube a cube is a cube? I agree that this is the bastard stepchild of a thread that will not go away .
-Spock
Most of your questions are answered in depth in the first few pages of this thread. But you may have to skim some bullshit to find them...
Simply put, a cube is a cube, because nothing else has been proven. Are some strains stronger than others? Probably, but show me the science that PROVES it. "A cube is a cube" is just another way of saying, "I don't know".
Also, if you want a VASTLY different trip, try another type of psychedelic (a different type of fungus can work, or try LSD, peyote, mescaline... etc). Once you do, you'll see that cube trips are quite similar to one another in spite of all their differences. Just like LSD trips from different blotter can differ but it is still LSD.
As for penis envy, it is special. Why? It just is. Who the fuck knows?
PE IS a cube... but it does not look like one. THAT is unique. Many also say it has a unique trip. IME it does... but once again, I can not scientifically prove it.
If you can get over eating dicks, PE is a fantastically fun cube to try. My personal favorite.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Rose]
#9636329 - 01/19/09 04:34 AM (15 years, 12 days ago) |
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Just like LSD trips from different blotter can differ but it is still LSD.
I'd just like to say, that qualitatively comparing even trips from the same batch (from the same blotter, from the same cube isolate) is difficult because each trip is different. Due to the nature of psychedelics, set & setting play a major part.
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Rose
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: dead]
#9636358 - 01/19/09 05:13 AM (15 years, 12 days ago) |
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You're preaching to the choir man...
Still... pot is not alcohol... shrooms are not LSD... and sex is not masturbation.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Rose]
#9636391 - 01/19/09 05:33 AM (15 years, 12 days ago) |
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sex is not masturbation.
Yes it is if you do it alone.
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spock
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Rose]
#9636802 - 01/19/09 08:14 AM (15 years, 12 days ago) |
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I can dig all that you're saying. I've tripped on every psychedelic that I know of except for stp , ibogaine and these RCs that people are talking about. I've taken LSD hundreds of times in dosages in excess of what would be 80 or 90 hits in todays doses. My experience with shrooms, while not as vast as my experience with LSD, is very greater than the average(or above average) psychonaut. And I have (well, not remembering it all) read this whole mostly retarded thread. Okay, a cube is a cube because it is. but there are differences among cubes and I think that is the only direction that this conversation is worth discussion. Your journal is a great start. Almost as many times the dumbest ass question is asked, I read "a cube is a cube" spouted off in a way that is really just a cop out. This problem about strains has always been on this board. this thread is a way of helping a problem thats not going away. But this thread has also grown to 20 pages and the same ones asking "what gives better hallucinations, SA or taz?" are the same ones who are not going to read this 20 page thread. I don't know how to fix the problem but this thread is out of hand and only getting longer. Sorry about thinking out loud as I don't mean to rant. If we are going to have this thread I just think there are legit questions( which cube tends to grow denser, Texas or B+)and not so legit questions. witch grows better in horse shit? well a cube is a cube.
Concerning PE. Saying "a cube is a cube except for PE" means either a cube is not always a cube, or that PE is not a cube. I think if there is going to be this thread, that is the stuff worth discussion if anything is.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: spock]
#9641170 - 01/19/09 08:16 PM (15 years, 12 days ago) |
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I keep seeing that some people are having a hard time acquiring PE for whatever reason. So Im making it my goal to spread joy. I guess my question is:
is a spore print the best way to share a strain(PE) with the community?
I understand its a poor spore depositer but if I grow in bulk Im bound to get some. I havnt learned 2 clone or isolate on agar YET. Im still learning. But if theirs a better way to share the wealth, Im listening(reading)lol.
This is not a giveaway, dont PM me or ask for prints.
and if this isnt the appropriate thread, my bad, wasnt to sure.
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Edited by 13shrooms (01/19/09 10:06 PM)
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electrics
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: 13shrooms]
#9641683 - 01/19/09 09:26 PM (15 years, 12 days ago) |
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Prints seem to be the common trades or handouts, then it's up to us to prepare for our viewing pleasure!! E
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: 13shrooms]
#9643593 - 01/20/09 03:00 AM (15 years, 11 days ago) |
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is a spore print the best way to share a strain(PE) with the community?
A sterile swab under the gills will work.
Very few PE fruits actually produce spores. The VAST majority are sterile... yup, sterile dicks!
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mushroomluver
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9657929 - 01/22/09 10:37 AM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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i accidently colonized a jar with gods flesh and creepers, and its going good, think one took over the other? i inced with myclin
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German Kahuna
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: mushroomluver]
#9658295 - 01/22/09 11:34 AM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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"Gods Flesh", "Creepers", "Stargazers"... you gotta love the marketing departments of the scammy sellers. I think I'll pick one of the random Thai strains floating around and relabel them as "Big Bhudda's Bollocks", call it a hybrid and make a fortune.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: German Kahuna]
#9658493 - 01/22/09 12:04 PM (15 years, 9 days ago) |
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Ok if P.E. is not a good spore depositor...why. Do any of you guys think it might be what we are giving it to eat. Where exactly did it come from if this is even know, or place of origin in the world. Suppose one could replicate the substrates that it is used to. After all, how could it of survived in nature without being able to produce spores? It might just be me but I think something is being missed here. I have had an interest in this "strain" for some time and am very curious about it. also been reading the thread in cultivatio "PE..Potent as Hell" and there is pretty much the same talk going around in there.
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