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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: mozartvicious]
    #8105913 - 03/05/08 12:21 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

What do you mean by special?

Brazillians and Cambodians are very rhizomorphic, Red Boy has a red spore print and was re-vamped by RR himself I think it's 75% redboy and 25% PF classic not sure though. Golden Teacher Are strong and very visual (personal observation)


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: flavoraid]
    #8106065 - 03/05/08 12:55 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

The grow parameters are the same as for any other cube.
It's the same species, so it needs the same environment!


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Fahkface]
    #8106136 - 03/05/08 01:22 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

well some cubes like different food and some like cold shocking which are growth parameter. They all like high humidity and FAE though.

ex. pesa = cold shock, PE = straw, OI = dung


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: flavoraid]
    #8106227 - 03/05/08 01:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

These are aspects that ain't proven and therefore I won't state them as facts.

Penis Envy is mostly done with Mono Tubs (which are mostly done with straw), for the fruits are very dense and people want to achieve good results with plenty of fruits, so they need lot's of substrate (otherwise there'd be only a few fruits), with Orissa India it's the same game, since they tend to be enormously big. As far as I know it's not advised to do them on cakes (same reason as for PE's), that's all and cold shocking is a myth. It doesn't help fruiting at all, since cubes are tropical species, that are never confronted with a thing such as coldness. They mycelium can handle it but it's not helping with results!


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: flavoraid]
    #8106284 - 03/05/08 02:07 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Red Boy has a red spore print and was re-vamped by RR himself I think it's 75% redboy and 25% PF classic not sure though.




Redboy was crossed with Puerto Rican. There's a link about RR's process in the Redboy entry in my strain journal.

It is quite a story, and worth a look.

www.ralphstersspores.com has them.


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Rose]
    #8106344 - 03/05/08 02:22 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

ah PF = puerto Rican thought it standed for PF Classic :P

RR shoulda demanded Redboys name be changed to Rodger Rabbit :laugh:

http://www.ralphstersspores.com/index_files/Page3370.html

search for peoples pesa logs.. tons of people compare cold shocking to non cold shocking and get better results.


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: flavoraid]
    #8107757 - 03/05/08 07:29 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

No, PR stands for Puerto Rican. :wink:

PF stands for Psilocibe Fanaticus or Professor Fanaticus.

RR used PR. Here's the quote:

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After 20 years of sleeping, the RedBoy lives! 

A mycological Coup d'Etat had to be pulled off to get this mushroom back after 20 years.  The spores would simply NOT germinate.  The result is a 'cross' between the original UNgerminated redboy spores and a cubensis from puerto rico.  Details of this experiment and a sporeprint are planned for an upcoming issue of Teonanacatl. However, here's a sneak preview to whet your appetite.  Even though this is a cross,(NOT hybrid since it's two strains of the same species) you can clearly see the red color of the spores.  Work is underway to remove the PR component to get back to pure Redboy.
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It is now 75% Redboy and 25% PR.


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Rose]
    #8108597 - 03/05/08 09:38 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I was wondering if there was a strain of legal shrooms that are similar to cubes? Similarities such as techniques and what not; like using grain jars, dub tubs, lc, etc. The reason I was wondering is because the girlfriend doesn't want cubes growing in our apt, and I want to use some legal stuff to practice with before I set up a friends with cubes.


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: physlent killer]
    #8108623 - 03/05/08 09:41 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Oysters... buttons... portabella...

Or you can try spawning to wood... many cool wood lovers out there... and they grow prolifically outdoors.

Stick with the legals if you live in a place where psychedelic shrooms are illegal. They are WAY more interesting to grow... just less interesting to eat. :wink:


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Rose]
    #8108679 - 03/05/08 09:53 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Does anyone know how long it takes for Golden Teacher (Stropharia cubensis) to grow?

My friend was thinking about growing mushrooms but wasn't sure which mushroom would be the best to grow. My friend and I have read from a few web pages that Golden Teacher is a decent species for beginners.


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Shroob]
    #8108849 - 03/05/08 10:30 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Golden Teachers are just as easy to grow as all the other cubes around.

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search for peoples pesa logs.. tons of people compare cold shocking to non cold shocking and get better results.





I guess we first have define what cold shocking means.
Dunking a cake and storing it in the fridge for 24 hours ain't cold shocking but just dunking, which is done in the fridge because the coldness slows down bacterial growth.
That's what people normally do and yes, it really helps, since the substrate absorbs water this way.
Actual cold shocking is to reduce temperature drastically for several days and doesn't benefit to the growth of cubensis, simply because they are a (sub) tropical species.
Real cold shocking is only necessary for cold weather mushrooms!


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Fahkface]
    #8109006 - 03/05/08 11:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Yes listen to Fahkface, He understands.

I've read RR saying that cubes will trigger pinning when itroduced to colder temps, but that the temp difference could be like 82- 78.

It just doesn't take the amount of change the fridge gives, it's just for bacterial protection :thumbup:


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: dill705]
    #8110714 - 03/06/08 12:02 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I just got my first bolts from my Equador casings and these mushrooms are the fattest I've seen. The B+ and Golden Teachers I've grown before weren't even half as thick as these monsters at the same age.

Shit, they weren't that much bigger at maturity.

Anyone know if thats a common trait among EQ's? The spores are from Sporeworks BTW


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: dill705]
    #8110842 - 03/06/08 12:33 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

All south American strains tend to be rather large.
At least as far as I know and as far as I have experienced.
It's known for the South American strain, to be one of the biggest in the word, such as these two fucks here:



All South American strains I've grown were fairly large, which were South American, Brazil and Amazon.


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Fahkface]
    #8110868 - 03/06/08 12:40 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

dry weight of those?


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: flavoraid]
    #8110968 - 03/06/08 01:07 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

It ain't mine.
The pic was taken from a web site and the dry weight of thos wasn't mentioned...


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    #8113554 - 03/06/08 09:44 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

that pic is from sporelab.com


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: flushme]
    #8115523 - 03/07/08 10:33 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Next set of jars, what do I noc em up with? I have orissa india, texas, koh samui (super strain), and hawaiians. I've never cased or done WBS which are my next goals. All I have materials for right now is pf tek. Not sure if I'll case the next batch. What do you guys suggest?


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Boomer Mang]
    #8115538 - 03/07/08 10:38 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Man, I like every single one of those strains, for different reasons. Try a jar or two of each. This is a fun way to compare your results... and you'll still have plenty of spores for future use!


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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Boomer Mang]
    #8115539 - 03/07/08 10:38 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

you can case pf tek jars. grains colonize super fast like a week to ten days.

a dunk and roll is basically like a casing for the pf tek you'll only get noticably greater yields if you spawn the cakes to something.


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