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InvisibleMushmanTheManic
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Re: Was civilization a mistake? [Re: Poid]
    #7985002 - 02/05/08 10:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I really don't know what either of you are talking about and have not committed mass genocide in years.

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Who are you? And what's more important, why and how?




How am I? I'm fine, thanks.


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Re: Was civilization a mistake? [Re: Poid]
    #7985007 - 02/05/08 10:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Poid said:
Stop trying to put people down for no good reason man, that's really not cool.




Who exactly did I put down?


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InvisibleMushmanTheManic
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Re: Was civilization a mistake? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7985021 - 02/05/08 10:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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NiamhNyx said:
Mushman is just mad that he lost the earlier debate he had with me, because I hunted down authoritative sources for my information and he couldn't be bothered to do the same.




If you wanted to continue debating that topic, then we can.

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Ad hominem attack is a rhetorical strategy that's easy to sink to when you ain't got nothin' better in your arsenal. I'm not too phased by it, don't worry.




Was this supposed to be ironic?


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Re: Was civilization a mistake? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #7985059 - 02/05/08 10:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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If you wanted to continue debating that topic, then we can.




I'm not interested. I just pointed out the fact that I was the only one who actually posted authentic research with citations supporting my perspective, and that you dropped out of the debate after that.

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Was this supposed to be ironic?




And that was the fallacy of "appealing to ridicule."

Tell me how you think calling me a "Malthus wannabe" can be anything but an ad hominem.


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Re: Was civilization a mistake? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7985091 - 02/05/08 11:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I just pointed out the fact that I was the only one who actually posted authentic research with citations supporting my perspective




I can post citations if you want.

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And that was the fallacy of "appealing to ridicule."




Thats crazy.

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Tell me how you think calling me a "Malthus wannabe" can be anything but an ad hominem.




I didn't know we were still debating anything. Generally, "Malthusian" is a term used humorously...


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Re: Was civilization a mistake? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #7985125 - 02/05/08 11:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Asking if a sincere point someone makes is meant ironically is not an argument, it is a rhetorical device intented to persuade, and it's fallacious.

Whether it's meant humorously or not, stating that a persons views are essentially indistinguishable from another's is fallacious. Correct me if I'm forgetting important premises, but you essentially said: 'your views are wrong because they are derivative of Malthus and he was wrong about everything.'


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Re: Was civilization a mistake? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7985353 - 02/06/08 12:40 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Correct me if I'm forgetting important premises, but you essentially said: 'your views are wrong because they are derivative of Malthus and he was wrong about everything.'




I made a joke about you being Malthusian, then explained who Thomas Malthus was to you... If I had known you'd take such an offense to "yer such a Malthus wannabe", then I wouldn't have said it.


Edited by MushmanTheManic (02/06/08 12:48 AM)


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Re: Was civilization a mistake? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #7985376 - 02/06/08 12:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I guess I misinterepreted your intention. Sorry. On the internet it can be hard to properly interpret the intentions of a comment since it's just words on a screen with no expressive tone to clarify things. Emoticons help a little I guess. I've also been in a self-righteous and argumentative mood for the last few weeks.


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Re: Was civilization a mistake? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7985406 - 02/06/08 01:15 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Say what you want, but what you were doing in retaliation is no better than an Ad Hominem argument.


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Was civilization a mistake? [Re: Poid]
    #7985432 - 02/06/08 01:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I really wasn't trying to argue. Sorry for any misunderstandings.


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Re: Was civilization a mistake? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7985918 - 02/06/08 09:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Icelander, perhaps I should clarify my point of contention with you. It's probably more a matter of nitpicking than anything else, really. I agree that, yes, we will most likely barrel along on our current course for some time into the future. My disagreement is with your assertion that this particular form of social organization is an inevitable product of 'human nature.' Perhaps what you really meant was that replicating the culture one is familiar with is something that people tend to do, is in our nature. If that's what you meant, than I misunderstood and I'd concede. edit: That point anyways. (Not any of the points I made, just thier being directed towards you.)




Yes that's what I meant. This is a type 13 planet you know.;)


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Was civilization a mistake? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #7988166 - 02/06/08 06:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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MushmanTheManic said:
I really wasn't trying to argue. Sorry for any misunderstandings.




Cool, everyone's friends, like it's supposed to be!

:3some:


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Was civilization a mistake? [Re: Poid]
    #7988208 - 02/06/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It's a rare thread indeed that ends resolved, with pleasantries and handshakes. :birthday:


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Re: Was civilization a mistake? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7988292 - 02/06/08 07:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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It's a rare thread indeed that ends resolved, with pleasantries and handshakes. :birthday:




Yay!!!!! Go team!

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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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