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OfflineQuantumMeltdown
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Ron Paul is toast
    #7953162 - 01/29/08 09:51 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

I just heard on fox that hes going back to work again ending the campaign..


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #7953170 - 01/29/08 09:52 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Many tears will be shed on keyboards as the news spreads


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #7953175 - 01/29/08 09:53 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Fox news, huh?


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #7953179 - 01/29/08 09:54 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Those racist comments on the newsletter that beared his name back in the day came back to haunt him and end his campaign.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Le_Canard]
    #7953215 - 01/29/08 09:58 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7953305 - 01/29/08 10:09 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

I will believe this when I see it, Paul plans to stick around for awhile.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: C20H25N3O]
    #7953312 - 01/29/08 10:12 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

this can't be true. fuck fox news.

if they really said that and it's not true, then fox news is seriously fucked up


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #7953315 - 01/29/08 10:12 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

He never had a chance in hell to begin with I don't think :shrug:

If fucking Hillary becomes president Im leaving.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Robo]
    #7953326 - 01/29/08 10:15 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Quote:

Omni said:
He never had a chance in hell to begin with I don't think :shrug:

If fucking Hillary becomes president Im leaving.



Pack your bags and move to Holland.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7953343 - 01/29/08 10:17 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Thats way easier said than done.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Robo]
    #7953369 - 01/29/08 10:22 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

lol, I wonder what he is going to do with all that money? Goes to show he ran in a free market, received money in a free market, and now his is going to shaft all of his supporters that trusted him before spending their donations.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Smackshadow]
    #7953396 - 01/29/08 10:25 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

FUCK


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Smackshadow]
    #7953440 - 01/29/08 10:30 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

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Smackshadow said:
lol, I wonder what he is going to do with all that money? Goes to show he ran in a free market, received money in a free market, and now his is going to shaft all of his supporters that trusted him before spending their donations.




you really think he cares about a bunch of stoners twenty bucks they put up?


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Cancer]
    #7953449 - 01/29/08 10:32 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Fuck Fox News... err yeah... fuck them... I have other reasons for hating them... like the fact that spin is their way of life... but that's another story for another time.

Though, Fox news or otherwise, it doesn't shock me that he's out... wish it weren't so, but them's the breaks. I'm moving to the Netherlands!


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: BurningBeard]
    #7953766 - 01/29/08 11:20 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Why do you guys like him so much im curious only seen a pic of him.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #7953776 - 01/29/08 11:21 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

And he always was toast...


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Seansquatch]
    #7953777 - 01/29/08 11:23 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

libertarian grassroots true conservative candidate with lots of political experience and a plan to turn around the economy and a non-interventionist foreign policy.

what else do you need to know?

if he's really out i'm going to cry.

i'm not going to vote..


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7953785 - 01/29/08 11:24 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

At least vote on propositions.
You can skip the presidential category.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7953787 - 01/29/08 11:24 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

we are all toast

what are you saying


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7953788 - 01/29/08 11:24 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

"spin" is such an Orwellian word...


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7953789 - 01/29/08 11:25 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Where's that huge Paul supporter from the donation thread at now?

Hate to say it but- told you so.

Anyone who actually thought he stood a chance in the first place... :nonono::rolleyes:


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Innominate]
    #7953798 - 01/29/08 11:26 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Hey, there's no harm in dreaming, right?


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Innominate]
    #7953800 - 01/29/08 11:26 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

i like some of the things ron paul stands for.

he seems like a good guy and all but thats not what wins elections.

in debates he got crushed or any time he was on tv.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7953802 - 01/29/08 11:27 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Quote:

drkrobotnik said:
libertarian grassroots true conservative candidate with lots of political experience and a plan to turn around the economy and a non-interventionist foreign policy.

what else do you need to know?

if he's really out i'm going to cry.

i'm not going to vote..




Dude... vote. I can't abide it when people don't vote. Why forfeit a power you have. That's like a huge fucking epidemic here right now... people not voting. I'm no happier about him being out... but at least fight for and represent something.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: BurningBeard]
    #7953837 - 01/29/08 11:31 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Get out. Get out while you still can. :tinfoil:

The apocalypse approaches.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Robo]
    #7953845 - 01/29/08 11:33 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

i agree, if obama gets elected i predict assassination or mass exodus, same with hilary


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Robo]
    #7953846 - 01/29/08 11:33 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Let's not abandon hope. I have yet to find a source, any source, for this.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: WScott]
    #7953860 - 01/29/08 11:35 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Big media is against him. End of story.

The dude never had a chance. He's a fantasy candidate. Too good to be true.

He's gets absolutely no coverage or attention.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Robo]
    #7953866 - 01/29/08 11:36 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

or money (hes not corrupt)


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: WScott]
    #7953871 - 01/29/08 11:36 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

And we shall rise up, and we shall cross the turbulant sea! We will exodus to the Holy Land, that which they call The Netherlands! Can I get an amen brothers and sisters?


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Robo]
    #7953872 - 01/29/08 11:37 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

It's fucking McCain, Obama, Hillary, McCain, Obama, Hillary, and then a little bit of Guilliani, but I haven't seen this guy anywhere.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Robo]
    #7953878 - 01/29/08 11:37 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Are you for or against the goal of big media? There is no sitting on the fence here.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Robo]
    #7953887 - 01/29/08 11:40 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Quote:

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It's fucking McCain, Obama, Hillary, McCain, Obama, Hillary, and then a little bit of Guilliani, but I haven't seen this guy anywhere.




i think paul is ahead of guilliani, could be wrong but i'm pretty sure


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: BurningBeard]
    #7953888 - 01/29/08 11:40 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Its harder for Americans to get into the Netherlands than you think, then after you get in (if you do), you have to adjust to a new culture, try to find a job, pretty much start life over. And they pick Dutch applicants for jobs over American immigrants in a flash, they have no obligation or responsibility to give you a job even if you have more qualifications or skills than a Dutch applicant. From what I hear, it's nothing like here.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: WScott]
    #7953899 - 01/29/08 11:41 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

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WScottsdale said:
Are you for or against the goal of big media? There is no sitting on the fence here.




Against it. Big corporate media has too much control over the outcomes of these things. And it was Ron Pauls demise.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Robo]
    #7953905 - 01/29/08 11:43 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

most everyone that has similar beliefs as those in this thread, dont vote. thats why its not gonna happen.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Leanin]
    #7953909 - 01/29/08 11:44 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

and the millions of media puppets out there dont help either.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Leanin]
    #7953923 - 01/29/08 11:48 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

If you don't vote, no matter what your beliefs, you are part of the problem.

Big media is a huge problem, and its influence can be felt everywhere. I despise it as much as the next guy... but facing the facts... Paul never really had a shot.

I think the sheer radicality of his beliefs would have scared a lot of people that don't want change if they'd beenallowed to spread... That's just my thought though.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: BurningBeard]
    #7953938 - 01/29/08 11:51 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

alright i'll still vote repub.. now i just gotta narrow it down.

really big topics for me are economy and the war.

everything else doesn't really matter.

i wouldn't think ron paul would be out this early though.. he was talking like he's sticking in there for good in the newsletters they e-mail..


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7953942 - 01/29/08 11:51 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Vote Nader! lol


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Robo]
    #7953975 - 01/29/08 11:58 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

rofl!


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    #7954270 - 01/30/08 01:27 AM (16 years, 3 days ago)

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Big media is against him. End of story.

The dude never had a chance. He's a fantasy candidate. Too good to be true.

He's gets absolutely no coverage or attention.




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    #7954469 - 01/30/08 04:31 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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    #7954495 - 01/30/08 04:50 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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If you don't vote, no matter what your beliefs, you are part of the problem.




That's a bit strong.
For one thing, why vote on a candidate who doesn't support your ideals? If you have to choose between crap and shit, what purpose is there in voting? Either way you get shit on you.

And besides that, I'm not wholly convinced our votes make much difference at all. Maybe I am a bit paranoid, but honestly, I don't trust the US Government, and I think there's plenty of reason for that. I have a hard time believing that they aren't going to put in office exactly who they want. Or at least let us choose from a group of candidates they hand-picked.

I'm not saying I definitely won't vote, but saying "If you don't vote, you're part of the problem" sounds to me like bullshit.


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    #7954641 - 01/30/08 07:08 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Not voting implies apathy. That's my problem with it.

I'm not saying that the people who elect not to vote are all apathetic, but we were given the right for a reason.

Shit, blow your vote on an independent if you must. But don't sacrifice the one right you have that can turn the tide. I'm not saying it will or that it's even likely... but at least you're sticking up for something.

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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7954652 - 01/30/08 07:14 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

He didn't have a chance in hell anyway so he just wasted millions for nothing, just like several others. Edwards should drop out too. This race seems to be betweeen Hill and Obomb, Romney, McCain & Huckabee...no one else can come close on the number of votes. The count when I went to bed last night in FL was about 200k total more republican votes to that is massive when all directed towards one candidate unlike the primary.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: BurningBeard]
    #7954703 - 01/30/08 07:43 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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Not voting implies apathy. That's my problem with it.

I'm not saying that the people who elect not to vote are all apathetic, but we were given the right for a reason.

Shit, blow your vote on an independent if you must. But don't sacrifice the one right you have that can turn the tide. I'm not saying it will or that it's even likely... but at least you're sticking up for something.

Having some value system is better than sitting neutral in my book.




:yesnod:

I've never heard a good reason for not voting.  Somebody on that ballot is going to end up in the oval office.  "None of the above" will never be president. Those who claim all candidates are equally bad are fooling themselves. 

The worst is when people think they're making some kind of statement by not voting.  Guess what?  Nobody hears your statement, because you aren't saying anything at all.  Everyone has the right to not vote, just don't pretend that by doing so you are serving anyone but yourself.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7954799 - 01/30/08 08:54 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

I don't think he's out of the race...look at his webpage, still going strong. I got emails today from the campaign. I really think Fox News was mistaken.


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    #7954813 - 01/30/08 08:58 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Edwards and Guiliani will drop out today


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7954826 - 01/30/08 09:03 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

In my mailbox from this morning from the Ron Paul 2008 campaign:

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January 30, 2008


Every movement in history has faced some time of testing, some experience that either forges it into something strong and unified, or forces it to fade away into the history books as another failed experiment.

Dr. Paul has written to you that we are heading straight for Super Tuesday. Our opponents are free to beat up on each other and wear themselves down while we gather our supporters and prepare to storm the convention with delegates.

Last night, over 60,000 people stood up and asked for an end to the runaway violation of our liberties. But contrary to the impression you may be getting from the mainstream media, no national delegates have yet been won in Florida. Those delegates will only be awarded between February 6 and April 30 at delegate selection caucuses, and many of those delegates will be supporters of Dr. Paul.

Ron Paul is the only candidate not to give up on any state in the Republican race, and just as we competed strongly in overlooked states like Nevada and Louisiana, so too will we compete in Maine, Minnesota, and other states that the so-called "top-tier" candidates are content to ignore.

Now, as the focus shifts to Super Tuesday, Rudy's campaign is crushed, Huckabee is losing momentum by the day, and McCain and Romney are fighting over who is the most liberal.

We've been here before. In 1776, despite a courageous effort at holding onto the city, George Washington ceded New York and quickly retreated to New Jersey.

1777 brought the British recapture of Fort Ticonderoga, as well as American defeats at Brandywine and Germantown.

And then, during the winter of 1777-1778, Washington and his army faced perhaps their most humiliating moment, forced to endure a harsh Pennsylvania winter with limited supplies at Valley Forge.

The American revolutionaries dealt with their defeats, focused on their goals, and emerged from Valley Forge as a force that would defeat the most powerful nation on earth.

Our momentum is building. Each one of us, from Dr. Paul himself down to the grassroots supporter who donates the last $5 he or she can give, is focused on the goal.

Early in the struggle for American independence, George Washington wrote: "Perseverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages." Even then, Washington realized that a fierce struggle for self-government can only be won with a spirit of determination equal to the challenge.

Today, in the midst of our new revolution, let's consider Washington's words once again. The task before us is enormous. The foes of liberty are deeply entrenched, and they will not relinquish their power without a struggle.

But fighting in our favor is the unconquerable human spirit, the innate desire to be free. We must embrace this inner strength, dig in our heels, and persevere, just as Washington and his rag-tag colonials, the first American grassroots patriots, did before us. And if we must pass through a Valley Forge or two along the way to victory, let those times of testing temper the steel of our determination.

If Ron Paul is to continue his fight for liberty to the Republican Convention, we need your help in two critical ways:

1. Become a precinct leader today: It's easy, but more importantly, it's vital to Ron Paul's success: https://voters.ronpaul2008.com.

2. Donate: Just as the Continental Congress supplied General Washington's troops in the field, we too must raise as much money as we can to equip our grassroots supporters.

Help us win this revolution and usher in a new era of freedom, peace, and prosperity. Donate today: https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7954838 - 01/30/08 09:09 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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And he always was toast...




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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #7954904 - 01/30/08 09:40 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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Fox news, huh?




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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: SheikCorp]
    #7954961 - 01/30/08 10:08 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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    #7955037 - 01/30/08 10:44 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

ron paul never had a chance.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Atheist]
    #7955053 - 01/30/08 10:49 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Who's Ron Paul?


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #7955057 - 01/30/08 10:51 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

exactly.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Atheist]
    #7955094 - 01/30/08 11:04 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

eh, he had a chance, just not a good one. At all.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Atheist]
    #7955100 - 01/30/08 11:05 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

There's nothing saying he's quitting. And why all the Ron Paul hate?
"He's toast"
"That's what I thought"
"Haha, I don't understand politics or social change at all, but I'm going to agree with the person above me because they probably do."

To quote Dr. Paul:
"Then, after the debate, Rudy Giuliani walked up to me and said, "Oooh, you sure have a LOT of supporters." It's only the beginning, I told him."


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #7955159 - 01/30/08 11:24 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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Who's Ron Paul?




Wasn't he/she a drag queen in the late 90's? :confused:

Rupaul, that's the one!

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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: circularvortex]
    #7955169 - 01/30/08 11:28 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Ya I got the same email, he's not quitting nothin, fox news is full of shit and always has been.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: citricacidx]
    #7955173 - 01/30/08 11:30 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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There's nothing saying he's quitting. And why all the Ron Paul hate?
"He's toast"
"That's what I thought"





I don't know if those comments stem from hate... I figure it's just a realistic appraisal of his chances, given his 'radical' platform.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #7955180 - 01/30/08 11:32 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

One sad point:

He's done more in than I could do in a 100o lifetimes and still it ain't worth a cunthair


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7955195 - 01/30/08 11:36 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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Quote:

citricacidx said:
There's nothing saying he's quitting. And why all the Ron Paul hate?
"He's toast"
"That's what I thought"





I don't know if those comments stem from hate... I figure it's just a realistic appraisal of his chances, given his 'radical' platform.




Yes, it's so "radical" for a Republican to be a true conservative and not a neo-con. It's incredibly radical for someone to want to constitution to be upheld rather than whiping their ass with it and our liberties.

People have forgotten, but Conservative means limited government involved in your day to day life, rather than the bullshit Neo-Cons we have today where it seems like they can't be involved enough. States' rights over a big Federal Government


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: citricacidx]
    #7955275 - 01/30/08 12:07 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

For everyone who is of the opinion 'he has no chance':

Would you vote for him if he did?


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: citricacidx]
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I don't know if those comments stem from hate... I figure it's just a realistic appraisal of his chances, given his 'radical' platform.




Yes, it's so "radical" for a Republican to be a true conservative and not a neo-con. It's incredibly radical for someone to want to constitution to be upheld rather than whiping their ass with it and our liberties.

People have forgotten, but Conservative means limited government involved in your day to day life, rather than the bullshit Neo-Cons we have today where it seems like they can't be involved enough. States' rights over a big Federal Government




Notice the sarcastic quotes in my post. He is radical in that he isn't compromising his platform in order to appeal to as many people as possible. Abolish the drug war? Think of the children!


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7955319 - 01/30/08 12:21 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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Notice the sarcastic quotes in my post. He is radical in that he isn't compromising his platform in order to appeal to as many people as possible. Abolish the drug war? Think of the children!



I have to agree.
Most of the voters have strong religious background, and the last thing they want is for our dangerous drugs to get into the hands of their kids.
They don't even consider the possibility of restricting drugs for reponsible adults.
They immediately equate recreational drugs with kids abusing them.
Hence, anyone who poses a threat to that burnt-in way of thinking won't be considered for election.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: RipVanWinkle]
    #7955708 - 01/30/08 01:53 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

HE IS STILL IN THE RACE. THE OP WAS MISTAKEN.

it was Giuliani who dropped out today..

Ron Paul is still going strong..

but really it's between mccain and romney i think..


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7955739 - 01/30/08 01:58 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Ron needs to give his campaign a boost, and make more television appearances, ads, etc.
Can't rely on the Internet alone for votes.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7955755 - 01/30/08 02:01 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

the media is against him.

i'm sure he is doing all he can to get as much exposure as possible.

the internet is really his biggest outlet.


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    #7955837 - 01/30/08 02:22 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Just wait. He is crazy like fox! After Huckabee drops out, the media will be forced to pay attention to RP. Don't forget, after Super Tuesday, we still have over half of the states to go! RP is in it until the convention, like it or not, Faux News! God damn Rupert Murdoch.

RP IS IN IT TO WIN IT.

The true underdog (in politics: BLACKHORSE) will win. Not this new General guy. He was out before he was in. RP does have a chance.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #7955845 - 01/30/08 02:24 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

I just hope that California doesn't go with Hillary. :rolleyes:


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #7955899 - 01/30/08 02:38 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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Just wait. He is crazy like fox! After Huckabee drops out, the media will be forced to pay attention to RP. Don't forget, after Super Tuesday, we still have over half of the states to go! RP is in it until the convention, like it or not, Faux News! God damn Rupert Murdoch.

RP IS IN IT TO WIN IT.

The true underdog (in politics: BLACKHORSE) will win. Not this new General guy. He was out before he was in. RP does have a chance.




Even if he doesn't win, its great that he will probably be left with McCain and Romney, and forced to be given media coverage because at least we are slowly getting the ideas of real change into America. I think America is so far off base right now that we have to ease our way into change/making any sense. At least he is opening some minds up and laying down some great points.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7955920 - 01/30/08 02:42 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

For those asking who is Ron Paul, please look at http://www.ronpaul2008.com

He is an amazing candidate with strong constitutionalist ideals! Really, he is hope for America.

And he never denounced the OVERALL war on drugs, just the federal war on drugs. States and local governments would be free to regulate as they saw fit. This would, however, be a MAJOR step in ending the drug war.


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    #7955929 - 01/30/08 02:44 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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And he never denounced the OVERALL war on drugs, just the federal war on drugs.  States and local governments would be free to regulate as they saw fit.  This would, however, be a MAJOR step in ending the drug war.



California has legalized MJ for medical use.
If they lift the federal ban, then California would legalize MJ completely. :thumbup:


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: circularvortex]
    #7955938 - 01/30/08 02:45 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Exactly, the people who are scared about their kids being surrounded by drugs if Ron Paul wins are ignorant. The president doesn't control the state's laws, YOU DO by electing represntatives and voting when propositions arrise.


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And he never denounced the OVERALL war on drugs, just the federal war on drugs.  States and local governments would be free to regulate as they saw fit.  This would, however, be a MAJOR step in ending the drug war.



California has legalized MJ for medical use.
If they lift the federal ban, then California would legalize MJ completely. :thumbup:




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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7956043 - 01/30/08 03:09 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Please tell me this is a joke! Damn it


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #7956353 - 01/30/08 04:25 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

he never had a chance anyways. seriously, it's time to wake up people.

ron paul supporters are sort delusional if you ask me. first of all, to think he's going to actually win the republican nomination and second, even if he did by some freakish miracle win the presidency, it's not like he gets to wave a ron paul magic wand and completely change the entire government's structure to his libertarian fantasy land. there's this group of people called congress who he has to persuade, and most of them are liberal at the moment, so that would be pretty unlikely. i mean, if bush can't even get his tax cuts made permanent then the idea that ron paul is going to be able to get any of his ideas embraced by congress is one of the most hopeless and far fetched fantasies you could possibly imagine in the US's current political landscape.

i'm glad he's quiting, because now we can concentrate on candidates who actually come from the same planet as us. ron paul is finished, hurray!!


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7956603 - 01/30/08 05:03 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Hate to burst your bubble, but read the rest of the thread before you post. :grin:


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Blend]
    #7956667 - 01/30/08 05:16 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

i'll do the only bubble bursting here.

he's finished  :haha:

i mean, do you seriously think he still has a chance of getting the nomination? he hasn't won a single primary yet. that's great you want to support him to the bitter end and be optimistic and everything, but don't be delusional about his chances. you insult your own intelligence.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7957040 - 01/30/08 06:14 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

I suppose you're right.  I'll go support someone I don't agree with instead. :rolleyes:


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Blend]
    #7957076 - 01/30/08 06:19 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Blend]
    #7957146 - 01/30/08 06:30 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

support the easter bunny if you want to. he won't get elected though. :shrug:

man, i've been where you're at before, in 2000 when i voted for the first time. i was the same way. it feels good to vote your conscience and stick to your guns, but it's really a sort of silly way of doing things. if you really want to stand fir something you believe in i'd suggest you try and figure out a way to wake people up to unconventional candidates like paul, or other third party candidates, so that in future elections people like him might have a chance. that's what the country really needs. being stubborn and delusional, and pretending someones going to win when it's mathematically impossible isn't really doing much for anyone though. unless of course it's the thought that counts. :wink:


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Robo]
    #7957182 - 01/30/08 06:41 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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Its harder for Americans to get into the Netherlands than you think...
they have no obligation or responsibility to give you a job even if you have more qualifications or skills than a Dutch applicant. From what I hear, it's nothing like here.





since when is anyone here obligated to give you a job?


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7957229 - 01/30/08 06:53 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

I just don't see how voting for a guy that parallels my ideals is being 'stubborn and delusional.' :shrug:

So far in this thread I've been told that A. I have to vote, or I'm part of the problem, and B. I shouldn't vote for the underdog, the only candidate I can actually agree with, because it "insults my intelligence."

So by those standards, I should vote for the person everyone else is voting for.  Otherwise I'm an idiotic, delusional no good American. :wtf:


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7957272 - 01/30/08 07:03 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

If someone here doesn't give an immigrant a shot with the same qualifications and skills as a native applying for a job, you are looked down upon. The immigrant can contact media and make you look like a bigot ass on television, and they will blow it out of proportion. This goes for racial minorities that are natives of the US as well.

Elsewhere around the world the situation is not so from what I've been told. Its just the social way the good old US of A has come to be. Equal opportunity for all, civil rights, blah blah. I'm sure in the Netherlands they have the right to not give a rats ass about an individual having to start a new life in a new country, having to adjust and find employment, even if you have all the schooling and the degree,etc. Difference is they probably don't sick the media parade on you and there isn't that social pressure present in the hiring process. That's just what I was told about Americans going abroad and trying to find employment, that it's tougher because of this.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Blend]
    #7957279 - 01/30/08 07:04 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

I'm voting for him, personally. Even though I do not believe it means a damn thing - I think voting is totally rigged. It's all a show. Maybe I'm just a paranoid conspiracy theorist, but.. I don't care. I go with what I gather.

The drug war is a waste of money and illustrates the government's craving to control the way people think. They gladly circulate narcotics when it suits their needs, but wish to completely eradicate the Cannabis plant. What the fuck kind of thinking is that - to eradicate a plant??

"Increased Eradication
As of September 20, 2005, DEA’s Domestic Cannabis Eradication/Suppression Program supported the eradication of 3,054,336 plants in the top seven marijuana producing states (California, Hawaii, Kentucky, Oregon, Tennessee, Washington and West Virginia). This is an increase of 315,628 eradicated plants over the previous year.76
For the 2005 eradication season, a total of 5 million marijuana plants have been eradicated across the United States. This is a one million plant increase over last year. The Departments of Agriculture and Interior combined have eradicated an estimated 1.2 million plants during this 2005 eradication season.77"
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/marijuana_position.html

The system is always struggling the solve the problems it created in the first place.

If you legalize Cannabis, or any other drug that can be grown, harvested, and extracted or processed if need be...

...stupid people will continue to buy from dealers, while the smart ones will get everything they need to produce their own personal supply.

If you legalize Cannabis, anyone can grow it on their window sill.

No one will need to rely on connections that are tied to violent gangs and whatnot (which are just as corrupt and power-hungry as the government), or ANY connections for that matter.

Ah. Whatever.

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    #7957280 - 01/30/08 07:04 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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    #7957292 - 01/30/08 07:06 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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Please tell me this is a joke! Damn it




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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7957303 - 01/30/08 07:09 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Its not about picking who you think is gonna win or who's getting the most publicity...its about picking who you believe will do the most good for our country. No one said anything about him winning...I've only heard words of support. Just because something isn't the popular idea doesn't mean its the wrong idea. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I think it is incredibly rude of you to talk down to anyone because of something they support. I completely understand how our government operates; change takes time. I know that even if he was elected into office everything wouldn't be fixed in the blink of an eye it would take many years to repair our declining economy.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Blend]
    #7957306 - 01/30/08 07:11 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

no you should vote for whoever you want! what i mean is that ron paul is running for the republican nomination, and let's face it, his chances of winning are pretty damn slim. so vote for him if you'd like out of principle, but don't some how convince yourself that he's going to win. that's what i meant about being stubborn/delusional. because when someone else gets the nomination you'll have to find someone else to get behind and support because as far as i know ron paul doesn't plan to run for president as a third party candidate if he doesn't win the nomination. i guess i'm more or less addressing all the ron paul fanatics who refuse to admit that he isn't going to win no matter how amazing they think he is. he isn't going to get the nomination but that shouldn't stop you from voting for him in the primaries if he shares you views and you think he's right for the country.

i guess some of the blind optimism in this thread was kind of bothering me a bit. it's time to face the numbers and look to the future of this 08' election.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Robo]
    #7957322 - 01/30/08 07:15 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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If someone here doesn't give an immigrant a shot with the same qualifications and skills as a native applying for a job, you are looked down upon.





there's nothing forcing us to give anyone a job, there's nothing that says you
cant be fired for no reason. understand that each time Al Sharpton makes an
appearance at a 'racist' establishment it hit's national news, that's millions of
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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Prisoner#1]
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each time Al Sharpton makes an
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homes that now know your company... that's free publicity, thats boosted revenue




lol you could look at it that way I suppose. That's looking at it from the companies perspective though, little foreign man still has no job :lol:


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7957335 - 01/30/08 07:18 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Ron Paul is in the Republican debate live on CNN right now, I dont think hes dropping out quite yet.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
    #7957344 - 01/30/08 07:21 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

I donated a little to the campaign, so they send me emails constantly now. I got an email saying that they are fighting a fight against big media and elitist politicians blah blah something something and that it is rough for the campaign and dr. paul. But I didn't see anywhere that he was dropping out just yet. I still don't see how he stands a chance,though.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Robo]
    #7957381 - 01/30/08 07:31 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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little foreign man still has no job :lol:





good for him, I hear they may be hiring in some other country, pass the word along


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7957383 - 01/30/08 07:31 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Your remarks are expected, and someone had to say it.
I'm sure most everyone understands that his chance at winning the republican nomination is very slight. Which means he needs all the support he can get.

To me, he's the only one that's right. I've never voted before, simply because I've never found a candidate I can wholly agree with. Ron Paul is my guy. Whether he wins this election or not, emphasis on not, I don't see much hope in anyone else.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Chemy]
    #7957393 - 01/30/08 07:33 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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he might have tried


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    #7957505 - 01/30/08 07:55 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

if no one i can honestly support gets a nomination i usually just vote for a third party candidate i believe in, just so i can say i voted. politics in the US are fucked up atm. it's sad when half the country is choosing "the lesser of two evils", and the other half isn't even voting at all. maybe one day a third party revolution will occur, and we will have some good choices again.


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if no one i can honestly support gets a nomination i usually just vote for a third party candidate i believe in, just so i can say i voted. politics in the US are fucked up atm. it's sad when half the country is choosing "the lesser of two evils", and the other half isn't even voting at all. maybe one day a third party revolution will occur, and we will have some good choices again.






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    #7957581 - 01/30/08 08:06 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

parading around in the streets doesn't work though. there has to be a new way to wake up the rest of the country. some kind of major event that sheds serious light on third parties. at the moment i have no idea what that something is though.

also, it needs to happen in the down time before elections. it never ever works when a good candidate comes along right before the election when the stakes can be so high. when a "hero" type third party candidate rises from the political muck a bunch of people get interested again, but that isn't enough. people have to be looking forward to third party choices before election time. like it has to be incorporated into our culture and taken seriously. you know what i mean?


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    #7957642 - 01/30/08 08:17 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

I can't find the news article. Where's your citations?


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7957739 - 01/30/08 08:37 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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California has legalized MJ for medical use.
If they lift the federal ban, then California would legalize MJ completely. :thumbup:




This is what I've been telling people too! I foresee that MJ would be LEGAL by State Legislation in California by 2010-2012 under a Ron Paul administration.


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Re: Ron Paul is toast [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #7957747 - 01/30/08 08:39 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

I've never voted before - Is there a write-in?


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