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Scary recurring trip...
    #7952694 - 01/29/08 08:39 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

I posted this on another forum, and decided to post it here to get some of your opinions.

It seems like every time I smoke a bowl of plain leaf Salvia, I get the same effects. Everything in my field of vision becomes part of some crazy orbiting machine. For example, if in my field of view there was a chair in the lower left corner, and a table in the upper right, I might find myself thinking that the chair is orbiting around the table in a staggering, circular motion. Then, I get the feeling that I'm zooming out, seeing a bigger picture, for instance, like the table that the chair is orbiting is itself orbiting around a cabinet. Every jerky revolution that that the object goes around, I zoom one more unit outwards. The scary part of the trip is that for some reason, I think that in reality, I'm doing something very bad (hard to describe, but I get the feeling that my subconscious mind is trying to kill me) and that I just don't realize it because I'm tripping. I get worried that every step I zoom out, I'll come closer and closer to the realization of what I've actually done. The strange thing is, I've never really gotten these effects with extract... only with plain leaf. It's like a completely different drug. Anyway, I want to be able to pursue Salvia further, but I'm a little afraid to do it until I can figure out why I'm having this trip.


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Re: Scary recurring trip... [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7952775 - 01/29/08 08:50 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Maybe a different setting? :shrug: Just a sugestion, I'm not too sure other than that.


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Re: Scary recurring trip... [Re: idreamofpiggies]
    #7953240 - 01/29/08 10:01 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

salvia seems to do that i always feel like im falling down holes that are closing while im falling

I dont do it much but everytime i hope somthing else happens :thumbup:


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Re: Scary recurring trip... [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7954457 - 01/30/08 03:57 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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The scary part of the trip is that for some reason, I think that in reality, I'm doing something very bad



I'm getting that too (even 'hearing' thoughts that are like voices saying things like "what the hell are you doing/have you done!?" while smoking)

I don't like salvia. The stuff is evil:smirk:

These things that happen seem to be coming from sudden widespread panic in your mind that causes your thoughts and feelings be like that, in order to stop what's happening (smoking salvia), or prevent it a next time, so you survive (you know it isn't lethal, but your brain doesn't!). It seems to trigger this 'panic button' more than any other drug I've tried, and even though salvia's effects are interesting, they're never pleasant. The best effect from salvia is the vivid dreams you have up to two weeks after, and you don't need to smoke a whole lot for it too:thumbup:

So how to go around this? You'll have to learn your brain that nothing will happen, and the only way to do it is habituation; doing it often and getting used to it. But I don't think you really want to do that.


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Re: Scary recurring trip... [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7954525 - 01/30/08 05:15 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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Siekoaktiv said:
…It seems like every time I smoke a bowl of plain leaf Salvia, I get the same effects. Everything in my field of vision becomes part of some crazy orbiting machine. For example, if in my field of view there was a chair in the lower left corner, and a table in the upper right, I might find myself thinking that the chair is orbiting around the table in a staggering, circular motion. Then, I get the feeling that I'm zooming out, seeing a bigger picture, for instance, like the table that the chair is orbiting is itself orbiting around a cabinet. Every jerky revolution that that the object goes around, I zoom one more unit outwards…




This is a highly coordinated vision, you take a few visual frames, they persist and become like a gif animation forming a plastic reality that is fascinating enough to create feedback. Your creative mind kicks in and you apply some transforms (3-d math and timing from your cerebellum through your frontal cortex and projected back into your visual cortex which is already in a feedback state).
Then you notice how much of your being is engaged in this animation project, and the synaesthesia of it bothers you, so a part of you becomes worried.


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…The scary part of the trip is that for some reason, I think that in reality, I'm doing something very bad (hard to describe, but I get the feeling that my subconscious mind is trying to kill me) and that I just don't realize it because I'm tripping. I get worried that every step I zoom out, I'll come closer and closer to the realization of what I've actually done. ….



You are just stoned enough that the part of you that is worried seems to be on a different thread as the part of you that is still fascinated with the internal animation project that is connected with the sick body feeling, and now some feedback is building in the worried thread using a sick body feeling as a resonant trigger.
The sense of other within is strong at this level of inebriation, LEVEL 4

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… The strange thing is, I've never really gotten these effects with extract... only with plain leaf. It's like a completely different drug. Anyway, I want to be able to pursue Salvia further, but I'm a little afraid to do it until I can figure out why I'm having this trip…




In LEVEL 4 experiences you get some LEVEL 5 immateriality effects, such as the weird body sick stuff, but the visuals are very strong and the sense of other personalities is strong. When you smoke extract I think you dose higher which sends you to LEVEL 5 and 6, so you bypass this interesting level and jump into something more amazingly abstract.

Anyway, In my opinion, the animation experience will not in itself kill you, nor will it escalate to something more significant – it is amazing just as it is, and your mind is amazing and powerful which is basically what it illustrates.
Sometimes this experience is what you need to build confidence or to actually discover some relationship that was hidden. Who can say if there is or isn’t a secret hidden between the table and chair or zooming beyond your chambers? I can only recommend a light touch and a light heart.


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Re: Scary recurring trip... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7956384 - 01/30/08 04:29 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Thank you for taking the time to provide such an elegant answer to my little problem, RGV... now that I think about it, it seems to make a lot of sense. Next time I try my leaves, I'll experiment with different settings to see if an uncomfortable setting is the cause of my panicking. I'm also going to try to pay attention to the mental feedback you were talking about... I never seem to remember it when I'm tripping.

Anyway, all I know is I had some CRAZY dreams last night. A Salvia trip before bed really makes your dreams more vivid.


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NuggetPorch said - "YES! YES!!!! Coaster its Faint, but its fucking there YOU see it!!! Perhaps we are both on some sort of unusual wave length associated with unusual neuro-transmitters, mind expansion white light, or something we can not even begin to understand or fathom to conceive because it is a gift of insight or a curse given to us by powers beyond our control, something we are not meant to know."


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Re: Scary recurring trip... [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7959129 - 01/31/08 04:41 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

Nice, I'm going to be trying salvia leaf for the first time tonight.
I'm a little nervous after all these negative reports so I am only going to try a little.


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Re: Scary recurring trip... [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7959131 - 01/31/08 04:46 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

Nice, I'm going to be trying salvia leaf for the first time tonight.
I'm a little nervous after all these negative reports so I am only going to try a little.


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Re: Scary recurring trip... [Re: idreamofpiggies]
    #7959267 - 01/31/08 06:31 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

It'll be fine, really... even my bad trips weren't so bad as much as they were just a little unpleasant... You'll have a good time, trust me. Just hit it really hard and take as many hits as you can...


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I'm in need of a sterile sporeprint, if anyone wants to do a trade for some seeds or something, or maybe just for free if you have a lot of them............. i'd really appreciate it :mushroom2:

NuggetPorch said - "YES! YES!!!! Coaster its Faint, but its fucking there YOU see it!!! Perhaps we are both on some sort of unusual wave length associated with unusual neuro-transmitters, mind expansion white light, or something we can not even begin to understand or fathom to conceive because it is a gift of insight or a curse given to us by powers beyond our control, something we are not meant to know."


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