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bodynotdead
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One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes'
#7951571 - 01/29/08 05:33 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' 29th January 2008 - dailymail.co.uk

Smoking a joint is equivalent to 20 cigarettes in terms of lung cancer risk, scientists in New Zealand have found, as they warned of an "epidemic" of lung cancers linked to cannabis.
Studies in the past have demonstrated that cannabis can cause cancer, but few have established a strong link between cannabis use and the actual incidence of lung cancer.
In an article published in the European Respiratory Journal, the scientists said cannabis could be expected to harm the airways more than tobacco as its smoke contained twice the level of carcinogens, such as polyaromatic hydrocarbons, compared with tobacco cigarettes.
The method of smoking also increases the risk, since joints are typically smoked without a proper filter and almost to the very tip, which increases the amount of smoke inhaled. The cannabis smoker inhales more deeply and for longer, facilitating the deposition of carcinogens in the airways.
"Cannabis smokers end up with five times more carbon monoxide in their bloodstream (than tobacco smokers)," team leader Richard Beasley, at the Medical Research Institute of New Zealand, said in a telephone interview.
"There are higher concentrations of carcinogens in cannabis smoke...what is intriguing to us is there is so little work done on cannabis when there is so much done on tobacco."
The researchers interviewed 79 lung cancer patients and sought to identify the main risk factors for the disease, such as smoking, family history and occupation. The patients were questioned about alcohol and cannabis consumption.
In this high-exposure group, lung cancer risk rose by 5.7 times for patients who smoked more than a joint a day for 10 years, or two joints a day for 5 years, after adjusting for other variables, including cigarette smoking.
"While our study covers a relatively small group, it shows clearly that long-term cannabis smoking increases lung cancer risk," wrote Beaseley.
"Cannabis use could already be responsible for one in 20 lung cancers diagnosed in New Zealand," he added.
"In the near future we may see an 'epidemic' of lung cancers connected with this new carcinogen. And the future risk probably applies to many other countries, where increasing use of cannabis among young adults and adolescents is becoming a major public health problem."
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Siekoaktiv
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: bodynotdead]
#7951589 - 01/29/08 05:36 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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"New carcinogen?" If weed caused lung cancer, we would have seen it a long time ago. It's not like smoking weed is some "new trend."
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: Siekoaktiv]
#7951698 - 01/29/08 06:04 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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lol, what do you mean, weed smoking didn't even start until the late 90s, thats why cancer rates are increasing.
Apparently there was a government funded study that discovered thc actually inhibits tumors from growing, once this evidence was released their funding was quickly pulled.
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: doitagain]
#7951806 - 01/29/08 06:22 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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The researchers interviewed 79 lung cancer patients
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"While our study covers a relatively small group, it shows clearly that long-term cannabis smoking increases lung cancer risk,"
79 people is an extremely small study and there is no way it clearly proves anything. And cannabis doesn't have radioactive chemicals in it like tobacco... Fuckin bullshit studies piss me off.
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: doitagain]
#7951817 - 01/29/08 06:25 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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your still inhaling a plant, yes it can cuase cancer.
but more harmful than 20 cigs? that was the estimate like 15 yrs ago. I dunno, but it is a FACT, if you smoke Newports, maybe all menthol types, you are inhaling FIBERGLASS!! suckas...
I'll keep my bud.
furthermore, reduce your risk, move away from that pipe, to a bong or bubbler, if u already knew what i'm sayin, then move up from water filtration, then move to a vaporizor!
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: JusListen]
#7951908 - 01/29/08 06:39 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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JusListen said: but it is a FACT, if you smoke Newports, maybe all menthol types, you are inhaling FIBERGLASS!! suckas...
wrong.
http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/menthol.asp
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: JusListen]
#7951913 - 01/29/08 06:40 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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I don't know why people worry so much about cancer. Just about everything is a carcinogen in its own way.
Ive seen plenty of non smokers get cancer and die and then theres the people who love smoke more then they love air who end up living long healthy lives like some of my family.
you either get it or you don't but your going to die anyway
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: Overclock22]
#7952037 - 01/29/08 07:00 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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This article is bollocks, and is nothing new.
OH NOSE PEOPLE HOLD CANNABIS SMOKE IN THAT'S EVIL AND DANGEROUS!
Oh please. Notice this article makes no mention of eating cannabis, or hash, or honey oil. It's a hit piece, and hardly newsworthy, especially not on this site.
Edit: Oh, for fucks sake. It's from the daily mail, who are a collective bunch of lying, xenophobic cunts. I have said it before, and I'll say it again. Next we'll see "CANNABIS NOW WORSE THAN THE NAZIS" in their headlines.
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: Visionary Tools]
#7952092 - 01/29/08 07:12 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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So what, eating processed meats causes ass cancer, and no one's banned Slim Jims.
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: DonkeyShell]
#7952136 - 01/29/08 07:21 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: smily]
#7952433 - 01/29/08 08:06 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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average smoker probably smokes roughly a pack a day....at least 10 - 15 a day. how many potheads smoke that many joints a day. if you're smokin 20 joints a day you need to upgrade your weed.
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: norml840]
#7953045 - 01/29/08 09:30 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Heavy smokers should get vapes. Lung damage caused by inhaling burning tars which harden onto your alveoli as they cool--that ain't propaganda. And the myth that only cigs cause cancer due to that radioactive byproduct in the soil--that's a bunch of crap IMO. Show me an UNBIASED source that confirms that--sounds like hogwash to me. And the argument that EVERYTHING causes cancer--cmon, would you allow yourself to be covered in radium, since "hell, everything causes cancer." No, you'll smoke because its pleasurable, and the consequences of it are delayed.
Its just so damn easy to have your cake and eat it too. Vapobrothers. Can't put a pricetag on your health. Gets rid of the after-stone fatigue too.
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: Noviseer]
#7953085 - 01/29/08 09:36 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Beat me to it. When you smoke anything, you are inhaling harmful chemicals. Eating or vaporising marijuana solves this problem though.
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: Noviseer]
#7953086 - 01/29/08 09:36 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Funny thing cannabis can cure cancer and many other serious diseases nobody has ever died from smoking cannabis, from an overdose or lung cancer.
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: BoomerMan420]
#7953108 - 01/29/08 09:41 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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In this high-exposure group, lung cancer risk rose by 5.7 times for patients who smoked more than a joint a day for 10 years, or two joints a day for 5 years, after adjusting for other variables, including cigarette smoking.
THATS ODD! They were smoking tobacco as well. Find me one study where lone marijuana use causes ANY form of cancer. Yeah that's right dailynews. You bunch of crooked mother fuckers.
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: BoomerMan420]
#7953556 - 01/29/08 10:47 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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there was actually a study where a long term marijuana smoker (female) did not get lung cancer, but she got something else, like a hole or something in her lung. whatever it was, it said if you water filtered your smoke, it wouldn't do this to your lungs.
wish i could find the article...
smoke is bad either way. why i mainly pack a bong, and only smoke every now and then. if i was a hardcore everyday smoker i'd vape it. but don't delude yourself into believing vaping is perfectly fine for your lungs either. moderation is key.
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: usg543]
#7953582 - 01/29/08 10:52 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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this lady lived to 125 and smoked pot everyday. I'm not too worried. Still I would like to get a vape.
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: THEBats]
#7953598 - 01/29/08 10:54 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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makes me remember an article where they had like 110 year old lady who smoked tobacco her whole life...
you read the article and find out she never inhaled, just blew smoke.
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: Gainer]
#7953733 - 01/29/08 11:12 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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no polonium 210 in herb, but what about the carbon 14. it's radioactive too. and yes, vaporizing does cut out the burning of the carbon. your liver still has to deal with other chemicals though in the herb. moderation is the way to go otherwise you're just wasting the herb anyway since the high isn't as noticeable. there is also alot to be said about herb variety or strain and the method of growing it. some is simply way harsh and some is like gentle fluffy candy. also, everything including carrots have a balance of positive/negative effects. you can even die from drinking too much water. seriously.
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Re: One cannabis joint 'is the equivalent of smoking 20 cigarettes' [Re: azurite]
#7954300 - 01/30/08 01:40 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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lungs are not meant to inhale smoke... they're meant to inhale oxygen... no shit this stuffs gonna increase the risk of cancer, so is just about every other kind of smoke. Shit our bodies are constantly fighting against cancer... its only a matter of time before it happens to you and everyone else, unless you die from something else first. The cells in a human body can only effectively reproduce so many times before things get fucked up... and harmful pollutants that go into our bodies are probably going to expedite this process.
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