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publicenemy1
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Tripping and you for 100
#7950545 - 01/29/08 02:08 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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I was wondering about the people of the Shroomery and the development of their spirituality if any. Who here was spiritual before any psychedelic use and it was either magnified or your spirituality beliefs changed afterwards. Also, who here wasn't spiritual at all before and became spiritual afterwards and who hasn't changed after. Just let me know your thoughts and beliefs, I'm quite interested in the differing opinions and how psychedelics have effected people's thoughts... but please, let's not scrutinize other people's beliefs. I'll give my thoughts once i get a few responses. Let's get it going, Peace!
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publicenemy1
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I can't believe that out of all the people in the shroomery no one here has anything to say about the evolution of their spirituality through the use of psychedelics. I went to Philosophy class for 3 hours (which i enjoyed) looking forward to the awesome responses i was gonna get. You guys are better than that. Let's talk. Peace.
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MorphMan
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Define "spiritual." What does it actually mean for one to be spiritual? It's too vague.
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publicenemy1
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Re: Tripping and you for 100 [Re: MorphMan]
#7952931 - 01/29/08 09:13 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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To believe in something not in the physical field. Belief in something not tangible. Ideas or philosophies on life, opinion on god or the eternal, what is infinite. The point was to be vague, I want to hear how different people's opinions are. Who's picked up a religion, whose dropped religion, who started meditating, doing yoga. There are "limitless possibilties" when it comes to beliefs. Now let's get some responses coming. Peace my dudes.
Most importantly, what do you find most true in your existence. Physical or Ideas.
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Edited by publicenemy1 (01/29/08 09:16 PM)
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RonaldFuckingPaul
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I ate mushrooms and saw baby jesus. nuff said
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krypto2000
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Well I was never spiritual until I took mushrooms. One time I had a bad trip where I went through ego loss. I could still talk and function fine, I just couldn't tell what I was and what the purpose of anything but simply sitting around existing was. Time just ceased to exist, I thought it had just stopped for what felt like weeks. Later on after I had started to calm down I just laid down on the couch by myself in the dark. I felt as if I were connected to everyone in the world, I described it later as a 'stream of consciousness' to my friends. I felt as if I had realized what everything was all about, everything just made complete sense to me and I had no desire for anything. I realized there was nothing to ever be sad about or suffer for again. I just laid there in total amazement; I've never felt such... perfect bliss, that doesn't even begin to describe it, but that's the best I can think of. Unfortunately I could not hold on to that thought/feeling for more than a few days afterwards, but it turned me onto Buddhism, and I've never completely forgotten what I have learned from that experience.
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sky
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Re: Tripping and you for 100 [Re: krypto2000]
#7953149 - 01/29/08 09:48 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Before I started smoking weed and got into psychedelics I was a very, very different person. I was arrogant, racist, believed myself to be superior to all others, believed myself to be immortal (yes, really). My supreme goal was to take over the world. In the future, I wanted to become a criminal (an assassin or thief). I had anger problems and believed that hate, anger and evil were the most powerful forces to exist. I had few friends, was antisocial and in my day-dreams, I would see myself as this Satanic supervillain. I also hated people in general and wanted everybody on the planet to die. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yes, what I said above is true. That is really what I believed and aimed for in life. If you read any of my posts or if you knew me as a person you would see that I have become a completely new person. My hate, fears and arrogance dissolved. My illusions were dispelled. Anger gave way to love and understanding. I'm thankful to psychedelics as I owe them my soul - they saved me from becoming a twisted monster. They cleansed me, washing away the blackness out of my heart and mind. When I think back to two years ago (when I started my spiritual journey), it seems ridiculous to me that I could have thought the way I did before...
I am proof of how psychedelics can change a person for the better. If they changed me, I think they can change just about anybody. They rearranged me from my core, showing me my mistakes and teaching me the true value of existence; Love. All you need is love.
I hope this answers your question publicenemy1 and I hope my story can proove useful to someone here. Thankyou for reading, peace
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publicenemy1
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Re: Tripping and you for 100 [Re: krypto2000]
#7953177 - 01/29/08 09:53 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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I know exactly what you mean man. One profound experience while tripping can shape you for the rest of your life in a drastic way. I got turned onto energy, meditation, and buddhism after a few of those experiences. I find LSD to be one of the most amazing and interesting chemicals ever, and psiolcybin has done more than it's fair share for me, but there is just something about that chemical. Pure love I'm happy people have started to anwser but I need more. Also, nice post reeferaddict, quite the lol for me. Peace brothas.
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publicenemy1
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Re: Tripping and you for 100 [Re: sky]
#7953231 - 01/29/08 09:59 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Good post man, you did a great job in fulfilling what I was looking for but like I said, I need more. It's crazy how psychedelics open up the door to the mind and proceed to make groundbreaking revelations for thousands of people. It's been said that love is the force that combines elements and hate is what separates them. Keep em coming. Peace
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Land_Crab
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I'm not sure how much of this is attributable to psychedelic experiences but in trying to respond here or even trying to explain anything which isn't concrete and objective I'm constantly confronted by the sense that trying to reduce experience to words is a little like trying to grade abstract expressionism on a definitive scale of 0 to 28. Even fabulous art, such as the following which--though closer to the "truth" of the experience of the very first 2.6 seconds of ego loss than I could ever express through writing--is still at best a very rough approximation:
 (Alex Grey)
The most impactful psychedelic experiences I've had were typically 'bounded' somewhere between the sensory, the cognitive, the metaphysical, and the spiritual (at least to start). Mostly though they were and remain beyond my ability to articulate without feeling silly.
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04281969
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Quote:
publicenemy1 said:Most importantly, what do you find most true in your existence. Physical or Ideas.
There's a strange relationship between the two. Perhaps this world is a kind of physical idea, or something made physical for and by perception. On one level, a malleable perceptive-existence, kind of a macro-quantum physics idea dealing with thoughts directing chance rather than perception organizing photons.
Maybe it's just the result of American cultural conditioning to see the spirit of life as more controllable than the typical Eastern Jedi Taoist. I don't know anything for sure really, but life certainly is weird.
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