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New SPECIMEN! So cal active (hebeloma/inocybe?) Cont'd
    #7950193 - 01/29/08 12:09 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

I went for a hike after the rain to a forest in the coastal mountains.
I found all kinds of suillus, waxy caps, amanitas, marasmius oreades, pluteus cervinus, etc..

But!!! I found these four specimens growing side by side with a larger pluteus cervinus patch and found these four to have bluing on them. I know of pluteus salicinus but I also know of death caps. I waited for a spore print at home and I did It on white paper.

It turned out salmon/pink. The color of pluteus spores...


I apologize for the "weirdness" of the photo. I had to use the dodge tool in photoshop to balance out the light and dark of my flash. other than that, I can try to take more photos but I must be off to work.

Anyone want a spore print? Alan? Workman?


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7950204 - 01/29/08 12:12 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Very interesting. The blue bits on the cap almost look like mold to me. Were there any more healthy specimens? And was there any blue bruising, or were there just blue patches when you found them? Cool pics whatever they turn out to be.


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: xmush]
    #7950334 - 01/29/08 12:56 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

fabuloso, this one do not resemble the other active pluteus i have seem , but it look like one , take more picture and maybe if you can open one specimen in two so you and i can see more blue , definatly save spores for the others.
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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7950376 - 01/29/08 01:07 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Can you get a photo of the spore print? Those are definitely not Pluteus, they look more like some brown spored mushroom like Hebeloma or something.

Indeed, thpse white/blue patches look like mold or Hypomyces or something. Was there blue bruising where damaged?


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: CureCat]
    #7950409 - 01/29/08 01:21 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Hypomyces was my guess also.


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: Hotnuts]
    #7951210 - 01/29/08 04:30 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Doesn't look much like a Pluteus to me either.

What was the gill attachment like?

Was it growing in dirt or on wood?

The blue stem base does look interesting.


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7951272 - 01/29/08 04:41 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

No mold here. this is blue bruising under the flesh. It was growing from oak and deciduous mulch/dirt beneath.

My apologies for jumping the gun on the spore print. It was early morning and in dark lighting. The print is brown. Although these pics dont have perfect lighting Id prefer for identifying.

Nonetheless the blue bruising is occuring. I tried to provoke as much bluing as possible but I need a new camera or at least learn how to use it better...





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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7951292 - 01/29/08 04:46 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

looks like it has a psilocin content


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: 2859558484]
    #7951301 - 01/29/08 04:48 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

definitely not the cobweb...


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7952732 - 01/29/08 08:44 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

neomataloma and hipholoma are calling atencion is some actives i bet workman will be interet in this .
so you can confirm the bluing ,

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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: cactu]
    #7953025 - 01/29/08 09:27 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Almost looks like a pale Gymnopilus...with the rusty brown print.


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7953342 - 01/29/08 10:17 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Cortinarius sp?


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: inski]
    #7953552 - 01/29/08 10:46 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Thats a good guess. I have never seen a bluing one but they are often purple.


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: inski]
    #7953576 - 01/29/08 10:51 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

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Cortinarius sp?




That would be a good guess with that deposit color. They certainly appear to be a host of Hypomyces as well.


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: Hotnuts]
    #7953596 - 01/29/08 10:54 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

> That would be a good guess with that deposit color.

And it looks like there is a rusty patch in the middle of the stem from the cortina remnants. Also the cap looks viscid.

Well I guess a bluing Cortinarius would be quite a discovery.


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: Hotnuts]
    #7953602 - 01/29/08 10:55 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Also the shape and texture of the stipe are typical of Cortinarius species, I'd like to see more pictures!


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: inski]
    #7954223 - 01/30/08 01:07 AM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Wow... This is strange. It does look like a Cortinarius or maybe a Hebeloma... Smell it. Is the scent unusual or strong?

Yes, more photos!!


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: CureCat]
    #7954392 - 01/30/08 02:38 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

well, all my photos are shit but ill try more in the morning.

CC, the smell actually became stronger after picking and smelled of bleach/dirt/semen. Kinda gross a bit but its not as bad anymore.

Alan, Could it be a gymnopilus? it looks a little too rusty. no veil either. although ive found gyms with no veil in Chico...


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7954464 - 01/30/08 04:20 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Those could not be any species of Gymnopilus. Spore colour is not orange enough, not growing from wood, hygrophanous pileus...

I'm still leaning towards Hebeloma.


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Re: Possible So cal active (pluteus?) [Re: CureCat]
    #7955177 - 01/30/08 11:31 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

> Alan, Could it be a gymnopilus? it looks a little too rusty. no veil either. although ive found gyms with no veil in Chico...

I considered that, but all Gymnopilus species have a dry cap. They can have a veil or lack one.

Each genus described in mushrooms demystified has a very helpful paragraph at the beginning that describes the possible range of features for that genus:

http://books.google.com/books?id=86tM01VsFG0C&pg=PA407&dq=Gymnopilus&ei=wcGgR-HILIvsiQHfjNWqCg&sig=Z_BalFQGNcNuq6DsKtDiZs0-93o&hl=en


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