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mushrooms and mental redardation...
    #7949781 - 01/29/08 09:56 AM (16 years, 3 days ago)

if you give mushrooms to retarded kids will it cure them, at least temporarily? i doubt its been tried.


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: sleepy]
    #7949792 - 01/29/08 10:01 AM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Who knows, why don't you eat some and then see if you become normal...

Sorry, had to....

And I kind of doubt it. BTW, who knows what's going on inside the mind of someone that's mentally handicap. Maybe they see through the facades of existence and interact with the gears of existentialism on a daily basis and the trade off is just being les miserables.


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: sleepy]
    #7949797 - 01/29/08 10:03 AM (16 years, 3 days ago)

I guess they'll just see their retardation and it will lead to severe depression.


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: Individual]
    #7949810 - 01/29/08 10:06 AM (16 years, 3 days ago)

I would be more interested in what happens if you give a blind person some lsd or shrooms.


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: PsilocybinMind]
    #7949816 - 01/29/08 10:07 AM (16 years, 3 days ago)

I'd be more interested in what happens if you give me some lsd or mushrooms.


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: Fraggin]
    #7949826 - 01/29/08 10:12 AM (16 years, 3 days ago)

i thikn if anything theyre already seeing the beauty in the world, retarded people generally seem happy, all the ones ive met anyway.

sometimes when i do shrooms i feel they are retarding me to a simple state of mind so i then see the beauty in everything, then only you have the power to integrate that into your life and keep it with you


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: Individual]
    #7949838 - 01/29/08 10:20 AM (16 years, 3 days ago)

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I guess they'll just see their retardation and it will lead to severe depression.




self-realization can be a depressing thing at times :grin:


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: Chronic7]
    #7949845 - 01/29/08 10:23 AM (16 years, 3 days ago)

my class in school had more than the average number of retards. they would sometimes run down the hallway and yell but they did seem pretty happy.
i had a conversation with this kid with downsyndrome about pokemon and he couldn't stop smiling and laughing like the buddha

i swear...

i bet since mushrooms bring a normal person to a SUPER conscious state that they will bring a retarded person to at least a normal state. i would start out with a very low dose. any first hand stories?


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: sleepy]
    #7949851 - 01/29/08 10:26 AM (16 years, 3 days ago)

I think the only way this would be ok is if the person knew excatly what they were taking...

Don't go running around stuffing mushrooms in retards mouths.


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7949956 - 01/29/08 10:52 AM (16 years, 3 days ago)

I used to be retarded...ate some shrooms and it totally cured me. Yay!


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: deranger]
    #7950000 - 01/29/08 11:05 AM (16 years, 3 days ago)

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I guess they'll just see their retardation and it will lead to severe depression.




self-realization can be a depressing thing at times :grin:




if your living a life full of unfullfilling games then yes, otherwise self realisation/actualisation is the best thing ever!


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: sleepy]
    #7950336 - 01/29/08 12:56 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

You know the Buddha? Far out!


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: fazdazzle]
    #7950948 - 01/29/08 03:41 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

I used to be normal and then  I ate some mushrooms and now Im retarded. :bucktoothfattygangsta:


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: sleepy]
    #7950979 - 01/29/08 03:47 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

they would just have a retarded trip dude, there's no way they'd be "normal" even for a little bit


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: awesomebastard]
    #7951021 - 01/29/08 03:54 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

I think you'd just have a retarded kid on shrooms.

But, I do believe that psychedellics can stretch the mind, allowing for unconventional thought. And, I don't think it's a total coincidence that many of the great civilizations of the past discovered and revered the enthogens such as psilocybin, mescaline, DMT, and LSA.


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: PsilocybinMind]
    #7951281 - 01/29/08 04:43 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

I always thought of this, too. What would Hellen Keller experience if she took shrooms?


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: awesomebastard]
    #7951283 - 01/29/08 04:44 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

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I used to be normal and then  I ate some mushrooms and now Im retarded. :bucktoothfattygangsta:




everybody with a thought process is retarded, mushrooms just open us up to this innate wisdom :stoned:


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: sleepy]
    #7951675 - 01/29/08 05:58 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

The word retarded is pretty disgusting, really. Someone with a mental impairment probably already sees the world in an incredibly detached way, and psychedelics almost definitely won't help.


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: handicappedrat]
    #7952098 - 01/29/08 07:13 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

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I always thought of this, too. What would Hellen Keller experience if she took shrooms?




she would see past her communist bullshit O WAIT SHE CANT SEE LOL


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: learningtofly]
    #7955593 - 01/30/08 01:32 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Psychedelics have been tried on autistic children, not exactly on "retards" to the best of my knowledge.

As for blind people, it really depends for how long they have been blind. If they were from birth, then they won't "see" anything of course. If they've been blind for a short enough period of time, they might have reminiscent "visions", but the longer they've been blind, the less ability to "see" their brain will have kept. I guess blind people would simply have an alteration in the senses they usually use most, as well as in their mind processes, just like anybody else.


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: Aldous]
    #7955628 - 01/30/08 01:38 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

There was a partially blind person who posted a week or so ago about that actually, try searching for it if your interested. Not sure what the title would be or anything though. He had been blind since birth iirc and he said he still got visuals.


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: Aldous]
    #7958712 - 01/31/08 12:06 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

I don't think anything would happen, kind of like when Ram Dass (Richard Alpert) gave a Yogi a large dose of LSD and nothing happen. There's nowhere to go, autism is caused by an excess of "happiness" (high levels of serotonin)


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: Aldous]
    #7958794 - 01/31/08 12:34 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

If someone is given lsd when they have no idea what it is or what it does, and they are given no warning its going to happen, i think even a normal person would have a very bad trip. I think it would be a similar situation if you gave it to a retarded person.

I read that link. Testing experimental drugs on children is preety twisted. "The dosage was set at 100mcg. for each child except for one smaller girl who received 50mcg. and one boy who received 200mcg." 100mcg is alot of acid to give a little kid.


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Re: mushrooms and mental retardation... [Re: DreamSignals]
    #7958810 - 01/31/08 12:38 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

If Autism was caused by excessive happiness i.e. serotonin, then it would be curable by now. There are a lot of autistic people who suffer from bouts of depression. It is much more complicated than excessive happiness. As far as giving handicapped people hallucinogens, I think it would be bad. The govt. probably already tried that in the MK-Ultra days.


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: Aldous]
    #7959176 - 01/31/08 05:33 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

I don't see how experiencing psychedelic induced illusions will somehow fix brains with retarded development.


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: Sacrebleu]
    #7959278 - 01/31/08 06:42 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

well, since we dont rally understand psychedelics, or mental retardation for that matter, it makes sense to blindly combine them.


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Re: mushrooms and mental retardation... [Re: RaMboZo]
    #7959335 - 01/31/08 07:43 AM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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If Autism was caused by excessive happiness i.e. serotonin, then it would be curable by now. There are a lot of autistic people who suffer from bouts of depression. It is much more complicated than excessive happiness. As far as giving handicapped people hallucinogens, I think it would be bad. The govt. probably already tried that in the MK-Ultra days.




I'm not saying it's exclusively caused by an over-production of serotonin, or that autistic individuals don't get sad. There are many ways a person can develop into mental retardation, but a common thread in autism IS an excessive amount of serotonin, which is a psychedelic in it of itself.


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Re: mushrooms and mental redardation... [Re: DreamSignals]
    #7960861 - 01/31/08 04:14 PM (16 years, 1 day ago)

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I don't think anything would happen, kind of like when Ram Dass (Richard Alpert) gave a Yogi a large dose of LSD and nothing happen. There's nowhere to go, autism is caused by an excess of "happiness" (high levels of serotonin)




I've read that unreferenced second-hand story too. Sounds like slight of hand. Yes, I'm crying bullshit. He probably didn't take it. Jesus wasn't above doing parlor tricks, either. Water into wine, loaves and fishes.

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