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hey fuck 'em
riaa tried to sue a woman sharing music.
she won the case.
usually its just a fee they are trying to charge you. it's not a settlement of any kind. don't fucking pay.
if they take you to court, just get a good lawyer. you will win.
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Re: Just got sued....... [Re: usg543]
#7948079 - 01/28/08 10:00 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Well I hope you guys are right saying I wont get another letter. Guess theres not much to do but wait it out and see
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Re: Just got sued....... [Re: robbyberto]
#7948092 - 01/28/08 10:03 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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wtf, why would charter be sueing you? Sense when does charter go after copyright infringement? Isn't that kinda like the fire department chasing after shoplifter's?
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Re: Just got sued....... [Re: Kid_Orgo]
#7948102 - 01/28/08 10:05 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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fear.loathingSF said: It was for downloading a season of the office, first and only thing I have ever gotten off of torrents. I dont know how much its gonna cost, but I got a letter from charter communications say they have data proving a computer at my home downloaded this and I will be contacted by copyright people blah blah blah Anyone have any guesses at what it may cost?
From CHARTER?
Your own high-speed company is trying to fuck you?
Get the word out, I'm sure a lot of charter customers would like to know their ISP is trying to fuck their asses.
Most companies do it like that. If they didn't I'm sure they'd get fucked too.
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Re: Just got sued....... [Re: robbyberto]
#7948112 - 01/28/08 10:07 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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to Verizon for that
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Better draft yourself a well-written letter about how it was your first time and you are dripping with regret.
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Re: Just got sued....... [Re: snoot]
#7948115 - 01/28/08 10:08 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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even if this is happening, it never really makes sense to me why they would come after someone who just just downloading one thing, or has only done it a few times, obv if they have 'proof' that he's not hording pirated material and stockpiling torrents, and seeding thousands of things. I mean what a waste of resources, what are they gaining? I mean granted Im sure they'll try to sue you for a ridiculous amount and then naturally either settle in or out of court with something like 20k. But it really just doesn't make a whole lot of sense why charter would come after you . I could see some third party company designed to hunt pirates, and maybe subpoena Charter for such information. All just seems a bit strange. Personally I'd like to take a closer look at all the details, you should elaborate a bit more if you could son. Fill us in, its too you're benefit.
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also tell us details.
if your parents have a wireless network and you downloaded it on YOUR laptop or computer that you took back to school, they are in the clear.
just say its an unprotected wireless network.
if you downloaded it on your parents computer, i'd definately wipe it as soon as possible in case it does go to court and they could use it as evidence.
another defense is buy a used copy of the office season you downloaded it and say you had the right to download it and you assumed the others downloading it also had that right. backup copies are allowed, but i think it might be a legal gray area now.
edit: and do not admit to a thing. claim you are innocent and argue with them. do whatever you have to do. you will get out of it i'm sure. read about the recent case against the RIAA vs some mom who supposedly downloaded rap. they failed horribly.
and remember, last resort is to get rid of the computer all together (or at least the hard drive unless you do like one of those crazy ass 8x format jobs where they cant recover shit). if no murder weapon is found... 
edit2: see a lawyer before you contact them at all!
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Re: Just got sued....... [Re: usg543]
#7948138 - 01/28/08 10:13 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Just be like OJ, you are innocent until proven guilty so as of right now you're innocent 
I would highly recommend buying that season in-store and saying you just wanted to d/l it for a copy to bring back to school or something.
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Does it work the same with TV/movies as it does with music - that if you own the music, you can download it and have a digital copy? If so, go use cash and buy the season of the Office you DL'ed.
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THanks for the advice guys, I am not even sure of the details because I got the news from my dad who got the letter. Basically I was at home over winter break, downloaded it on my laptop on our wireless home network, and today I got the letter.
Ill fill you guys in on the exact details once I get them
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OneLessForeskin said: Does it work the same with TV/movies as it does with music - that if you own the music, you can download it and have a digital copy? If so, go use cash and buy the season of the Office you DL'ed.
they'd still get you for distrubting though as far as i know unless you claim innocence, which might not work.
like i said, make sure you talk to a or your parents talk to a lawyer if you're really getting sued. don't admit anything.
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Re: Just got sued....... [Re: usg543]
#7948206 - 01/28/08 10:30 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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How can they subpoena you just for having evidence that you 'did' it without having anything empirical? To me this just doesn't add up, get a lawyer he'll say the same. Why wouldn't they get this 'data' that obv show's you've been pirating and then get a warrant get inside your house confiscate all the things need to get substantial evidence and then press charges.
Things don't make sense. I wouldn't agree to shit, without a lawyer, don't say shit, if they call say you're not talking without a lawyer present.
This stinks. ~ Good luck mate.
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Re: Just got sued....... [Re: snoot]
#7948216 - 01/28/08 10:33 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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it's most likely a fee they are trying to charge, much like the riaa did awhile back. basically in that case, if you don't pay they fee, they are saying they might sue. however it's not a settlement of any kind. you could pay the fee and they could still sue.
that's most likely what this is. but who knows, time will tell.
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Re: Just got sued....... [Re: notapillow]
#7948225 - 01/28/08 10:36 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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notapillow said: burn your computer down and change your address and name

Burn your computer down!!
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I would highly doubt Charter Communications is suing you. I am a Charter customer myself and I have also received letters from them (twice now), detailing what copyright protected material I allegedly downloaded and when. These letters have only served to warn of potential termination of service. If your dad just skimmed it, it is possible that he is jumping to conclusions since the notices are fairly lengthy and include technical data which exhibits the connection between your IP address and the file transfer in question. I wouldn't worry too much 'til you get a clearer understanding of the notice. Still, it would be a good idea to find that old copy of The Office you lost several weeks ago.
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Re: Just got sued....... [Re: geokills]
#7948244 - 01/28/08 10:41 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Goddamn!
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Wtf, this anti-download bullshit is really taking off...
Pray its just a warning, if they do anything else then you better move all your shit to a external harddrive and erase all the shit on your laptop. plus with a wireless internet anyone can grab it and use it for their own so.... As long as they dont have any actual files on your pc to prove someone else didnt use your wireless then...
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Re: Just got sued....... [Re: geokills]
#7948261 - 01/28/08 10:44 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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geokills said: I would highly doubt Charter Communications is suing you. I am a Charter customer myself and I have also received letters from them (twice now), detailing what copyright protected material I allegedly downloaded and when. These letters have only served to warn of potential termination of service. If your dad just skimmed it, it is possible that he is jumping to conclusions since the notices are fairly lengthy and include technical data which exhibits the connection between your IP address and the file transfer in question. I wouldn't worry too much 'til you get a clearer understanding of the notice. Still, it would be a good idea to find that old copy of The Office you lost several weeks ago.
Charter is not threatening to sue, they are threatening to cancel service and it sounds like the letter said I will be contacted by the copyright people or something
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Just tryin' to scare you straight me thinks.
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