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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: RogerRabbit] * 1
    #7952934 - 01/29/08 09:14 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

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PF classic used to be one of my favorites, with nice large meaty fruits, cambodians were weak and small, and there is NO Hawaii cubensis.  Cubensis is not native to the islands... 

That's why discussion of strains is lame, and relegated to the noob closet.




So... are you saying the story of Pacifica Exotica Spore Co. (which introduced the "Hawaiian" cube) is lame?

Or, are you agreeing that the spore info in the cube strain thread is outdated?

:smile:

PESH has an interesting HISTORY. It is NOT a Hawaiian cube... but the story is cool.

As long as mindset is a factor for trippers, the history of cubensis spores will be influential.

Cultivators should have access to the history of the different strains. Look at how much has already been lost! And yet The Shroomery has INTRODUCED many strains to the public. We can get a LOT of info compiled here. Once compiled, it'll be relatively simple to keep up to date.

I agree RR, growing parameters and potency have little relevance here... and a cube is a cube... but each type of commercial cube, has a STORY. Some of the stories are actually quite cool.


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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: Rose]
    #7953131 - 01/29/08 09:45 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Agreed. Lots of cool stories. I remember the PES story. I even had their 'hawaiian'. Anyway, my point is we don't hear the old hands worrying about strains, but even with the stickied strain thead, we have to lock a few a day for those who ignore, or don't see it. It was crazy before when three or four strain threads would be active on the same page, with people jumping back and forth between them arguing and taking up the first page away from those who needed actual help with their grows. That's why we stickied it up there.

By lame, I meant considering it an equal or even superior factor to the right growing environment, procedures, lighting, substrate, blah blah.
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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7953323 - 01/29/08 10:15 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Heh, yeah... we're just two old farts talkin' apples and oranges.

I moderated this forum once... I remember.

I'm just sayin' the more interesting, factual and up to date the info in that thread IS, the more likely people will moderate themselves.

The search feature here works SO well, you Mods don't have to tell many people to use it. The community, more often than not, beats y'all to the punch! NOW, if the strain thread were better...

P.S. Your videos are amazing RR. We BOTH like to help the n00bs... but we simply have different approaches. :wink:


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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: Rose]
    #7953384 - 01/29/08 10:23 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

I remember. :laugh:

I could make a new strain thread now, and you guys can start putting it together if you want.  I really don't think it will stay organized for long, because every day three or four people will post wanting to know the best strain to get maximum yield with maximum potency and the ability to fight contamination. :wink:
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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7953525 - 01/29/08 10:41 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

these pups probably do not even know what pes stands for


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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: tahoe]
    #7953551 - 01/29/08 10:46 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

God, how I wish I had found this place so many years earlier! You guys are great.


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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7953669 - 01/29/08 11:05 PM (16 years, 3 days ago)

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I remember. :laugh:

I could make a new strain thread now, and you guys can start putting it together if you want.  I really don't think it will stay organized for long, because every day three or four people will post wanting to know the best strain to get maximum yield with maximum potency and the ability to fight contamination. :wink:
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Perhaps Anno could start a Strain Wiki... It'd be more organized... and efficient... like only the Austrians can do!

I'll add the things I know... once there is a web space.

Easily manageable. :smile:


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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: Rose]
    #7953911 - 01/29/08 11:44 PM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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I remember. :laugh:

I could make a new strain thread now, and you guys can start putting it together if you want.  I really don't think it will stay organized for long, because every day three or four people will post wanting to know the best strain to get maximum yield with maximum potency and the ability to fight contamination. :wink:
RR




Perhaps Anno could start a Strain Wiki... It'd be more organized... and efficient... like only the Austrians can do!

I'll add the things I know... once there is a web space.

Easily manageable. :smile:


:smile:




I like that idea. :thumbup:

I wish someone would acknowledge what stains share certain traits and what strains are just marketing ploys. I'm curious how many different traits can be present in Cubensis not how many locations and different names we can come up with for the exact same strain.


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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7954280 - 01/30/08 01:32 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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I remember. :laugh:

I could make a new strain thread now, and you guys can start putting it together if you want.  I really don't think it will stay organized for long, because every day three or four people will post wanting to know the best strain to get maximum yield with maximum potency and the ability to fight contamination. :wink:
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I don't know why but I was expecting "maximum yield with maximum potency and the ability to fight crime" I was kinda disapointed to see the word contamination.  the batman strain or maybe even the "dark knight" strain.


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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: Wolfgang]
    #7954286 - 01/30/08 01:35 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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I wish someone would acknowledge what stains share certain traits and what strains are just marketing ploys. I'm curious how many different traits can be present in Cubensis not how many locations and different names we can come up with for the exact same strain.




YES!!!

I want to know and SEE the differences on the MACROSCOPIC and MICROSCOPIC level, from one type of cube to another. This may also, help keep the integrity of each strain alive... from one generation to another... AND, from vendor to vendor...

Surely SOME of our vendors have information that they'd LOVE to submit... as long as they get photo credit... same with the community!


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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: Rose]
    #7954807 - 01/30/08 08:55 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

still no one? What does pes stand for in pes amazon and pes hawiian


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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: tahoe]
    #7954864 - 01/30/08 09:21 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

Pacifica Exotica Spora


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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: BanjoMojo]
    #7954869 - 01/30/08 09:23 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

the search function works


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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: tahoe]
    #7955007 - 01/30/08 10:29 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

STRAIN WIKI!!!!! :smile: Sounds great. :smile:

People will always be interested in strains, when faced with a choice they need to make a decision, to make the decision they need info.
Some of the old hands seem to collect strains!

At least we can have community controlled information on strains rather than sales talk!

I like the way FSRE present the info (the pages at least)
http://www.fsre.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25&Itemid=47

Perhaps an introduction/caveat from RR explaining what he did earlier ^^^

Photo's and history would be great!


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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: Rose]
    #7955013 - 01/30/08 10:34 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

a cube is a cube is a cube.................. when will people do a little reading and finally figure this out


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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #7955026 - 01/30/08 10:38 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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a cube is a cube is a cube.................. when will people do a little reading and finally figure this out



Do Penis Envey and Cambodian look the same?
History of Red Boy and Oak Ridge, identical?


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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7955043 - 01/30/08 10:46 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

a portabella and a button are the same also


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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7955060 - 01/30/08 10:51 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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Do Penis Envey and Cambodian look the same?
History of Red Boy and Oak Ridge, identical?




They're all cubes. The only real way for 'strain' to have meaning is if isolated strains were exchanged on agar, but that's considered illegal, so talk of spore strains belongs in the strain thread to keep from cluttering up the forum. There are a few genuine strains in circulation, PE being one of them. However, as I've said before, the fancier the name, the more likely it's just one of the standard strains packaged up with a new name. Every cow pasture that has mushrooms doesn't deserve to have a new 'strain' named for it, which seems to be in vogue nowadays.

However, this isn't going to become another strain thread. I'll dump the one that's up there now, and you guys can begin exchanging opinions on a clean slate.
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Re: Who Created the Strain Thred? [Re: Rose]
    #7955062 - 01/30/08 10:52 AM (16 years, 2 days ago)

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