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UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby
#7946496 - 01/28/08 05:51 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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I do believe Nogueira will find a way to beat Tim Sylvia.
Nog's just been so consistent against strong competition over the years, he's been battle-tested more than any other heavyweight of recent.
I don't even think Tim has the advantage standing. Nog's standup isn't powerfull, but he lands shots, he keeps it technical, and uses combinations improvedly.
And on the ground it's pretty much over once nog gets the takedown.
the only fighter whose really thoroughly beaten Nogueira is Fedor.
Lesnar vs Mir, i don't think is as good as a matchup as people think. I think Mir is going to submit him, but Lesnar may show signs of potential.
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: LiquidSmoke]
#7946951 - 01/28/08 07:12 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Damn I hate sylvia. But unfortunetly I really think he's going to squeek out a decision win...as always. I hope not, but I see sylvia winning by decision.
I also think mir is going to submit him. Something crazy could happen though...mir might be really overwhelmed by the power of lesnar.
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: Spooge]
#7946965 - 01/28/08 07:14 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Lesnar will TKO him with an F5
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: LiquidSmoke]
#7949022 - 01/29/08 02:00 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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the way i see it, almost every fighter whose had a ground advantage against Sylvia has beaten him atleast once, all except for Jeff Monson.
Monson sucks though, the man got KOed by Pedro Rizzo.
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: LiquidSmoke]
#7949680 - 01/29/08 09:24 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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nog over flabbs
lesner looked pretty shitty in his other fights - great white dope
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The way I see it, I hope Sylvia and Lesnar win just to fuck with the heads of everybody who really follows and loves MMA.
Now I don't think they will, but man oh man it'd be funny.
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: Jadian]
#7950339 - 01/29/08 12:57 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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lesnar has legit amateur wrestling and one hell of a shot. i checked out a few vids of brock in college, wrestling on youtube. i think he may be able to fuck mir's metal leg up with a seriously hard shot. lesnar is one of the few UFC HWs who is going to be able to throw around 265lb guys like ragdolls.
im taking brock to win a BORING lnp decision over MIr. I think Lesnar will power out of any sub Mir tosses up. Also I believe Mir will get tired with lesnar laying on him.
as far as nog vs tim goes, of course i want nog to win. however tim is always able to stall out a decision. nog has legit boxing, not much power but the sickest subs in mma. his problem with the ground is getting people there, his takedowns aren't really super effective. tim has a great fucking sprawl, as much as most people hate to give that boring troll any compliments. sylvia isnt knocking nog out with his striking. nog cant be actually KOed.
all that said i'll take nog by sub in round 3
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marquardt by decision belcher by tko griffin by decision lytle by TKO martin by KO heath by decision emerson by decision
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Dealing with that reach is going to be tough.
But i think Nog is crafty enough to get Tim to the ground. If he was able to takedown Fedor, Kharitonov, Cro-cop, and Bob Sapp, i think he's capable of taking Tim down.
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: LiquidSmoke]
#7951364 - 01/29/08 05:02 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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most of those guys were more than happy to go down into nog's guard on top of him. especially sapp and fedor... tim is going to stand non-stop
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i wouldn't say most
Werdum, Yokoi, Fedor, sure.
But Bob Sapp, Kharitonov, Cro-cop were trying to avoid his gaurd throughout their fights.
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flabby is sad that nobody likes him
i'm actually looking forward to the lesnar fight now - don't think he has much of a chance.....but the guy is a monster
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if Brock wins, the hype will be absurd.
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: LiquidSmoke]
#7968714 - 02/02/08 01:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm sad we won't get to hear that crazy Pride lady yell "NOOOOOOOOOGUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: Jadian]
#7971040 - 02/02/08 10:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nog won
yayyyyy i'm happy
i was worried after the first two rounds, but i figured the second Nog got a takedown, he'd take the quickest oppurtinity to get the submission.
It just continues the fact that Nog jgets better through a fight.
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all that said i'll take nog by sub in round 3
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: LiquidSmoke]
#7971179 - 02/02/08 11:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I thought it was a weak break by Yamasaki in the Lesnar-Mir fight. With that said, Lesnar looked antsy, but if he sticks at will be something.
The Barbarian was straight up ruthless..
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: LiquidSmoke]
#7971294 - 02/02/08 11:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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all that said i'll take nog by sub in round 3
Goddamn that was a good call.
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What did you guys think of the stoppage due to hitting the back of the head?
I was at a small house gathering to watch the fight and EVERYONE said that it was a terrible call on the refs part. And I said "that's the rules and that's what he did, you got to call it."
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it's fine, people who are new to the sport will always react with the commentators.
But the restart was fine, hits in the back of the head can stun your opponent, and there's been many many competitions both in MMA and boxing where the fight gets restarted even with as small of a back-head strike as suttle as that.
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: LiquidSmoke]
#7971336 - 02/02/08 11:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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LiquidSmoke said: it's fine, people who are new to the sport will always react with the commentators.
But the restart was fine, hits in the back of the head can stun your opponent, and there's been many many competitions both in MMA and boxing where the fight gets restarted even with as small of a back-head strike as suttle as that.
A lot of the people were definitely not new to the sport. That's what was shocking to me.
And they were yelling so loud and so much I barely heard the commentators at all. 
It was a good time and during the Mir-Lesnar fight, I was the only one in the entire living room not jumping up and down when Lesnar was pounding on Mir. I was thinking to myself that Mir had a shot when he was not knocked out after the Lesnar barrages.
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Lesnar definitely showed alot of potential.
I'd love to see him fight again.
His GnP is pretty solid, thanks to his enormous frame.
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: LiquidSmoke]
#7971794 - 02/03/08 03:05 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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LiquidSmoke said: it's fine, people who are new to the sport will always react with the commentators.
But the restart was fine, hits in the back of the head can stun your opponent, and there's been many many competitions both in MMA and boxing where the fight gets restarted even with as small of a back-head strike as suttle as that.
That's fucking lame. I've been watching the sport for a very long time and that standup was bullshit.
I've seen it hundreds and hundreds of times before. In that exact same situation the norm is for you to hear the ref "WATCH THE BACK OF THE HEAD". The fact he comes in, deducts and point and stands them up right away after two shots to the back of the head is just confusing. I can honestly say in all my years of watching I can't remember them doing that. Normally there is a warning first.
As gay as that was...i'm glad mir won
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: Spooge]
#7972461 - 02/03/08 11:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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LiquidSmoke said: it's fine, people who are new to the sport will always react with the commentators.
But the restart was fine, hits in the back of the head can stun your opponent, and there's been many many competitions both in MMA and boxing where the fight gets restarted even with as small of a back-head strike as suttle as that.
That's fucking lame. I've been watching the sport for a very long time and that standup was bullshit.
I've seen it hundreds and hundreds of times before. In that exact same situation the norm is for you to hear the ref "WATCH THE BACK OF THE HEAD". The fact he comes in, deducts and point and stands them up right away after two shots to the back of the head is just confusing. I can honestly say in all my years of watching I can't remember them doing that. Normally there is a warning first.
As gay as that was...i'm glad mir won
For everyone saying there was no warning... there were 2. Once in the dressing room and then again right before the fight. It was unusual but I'm not going to argue when someone doesn't care about the rules and breaks them 1 minute into the fight.
I was surprised Tim didn't get more shit for grabbing the cage.
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: d33p]
#7973279 - 02/03/08 02:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It was unusual
Exactly. I agree rules are rules, but they should be enforced equally to all people at all times.
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: d33p]
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YEEAAAHAH BIG NOG!!!

I remember back in 2003 when he lost the belt.....man i felt so bad for him, he was just devastated.
5 years later REDEMPTION SO SWEET
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: LiquidSmoke]
#7974148 - 02/03/08 05:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: Spooge]
#7974830 - 02/03/08 07:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It was unusual
Exactly. I agree rules are rules, but they should be enforced equally to all people at all times.
I've been reading that supposedly 22 seconds into the fight the stache warns lesnar about shots to the back of the head. I don't have a copy though.
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Re: UFC 81: Nog vs Flabby [Re: LiquidSmoke]
#7976886 - 02/04/08 08:48 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm kinda pissed the barbarian didn't make all the funny bruce lee noises.
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