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OfflineSpiritual Seeker
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So in PHilosophy class today.........
    #7944739 - 01/28/08 10:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

We talked about a picture of Trees and leaves growing in a swamp. It showed a Fish underneath the water and the leaves were on top of the water.

Then there was a reflection and we were asked questions about what kind of Realities we saw. I choose the option of

There are 3 Realities. The world above the water, the world below the water, and the world reflected on the water. I was the only person in the class, when they asked me to explain myself i couldnt quite put my words out correctly :tongue2:

ALot of people said there is only 1 reality of coarse. And some people said there is only 1 reality of the artist himself....because he created the picture.



basically thats an idea of the picture. But think about the world below the water as well.

How many realities are there?


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Re: So in PHilosophy class today......... [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
    #7944844 - 01/28/08 11:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

They only saw the reality of the artist who portrayed the image but not the one of the person observing the artwork? :strokebeard:

:hehehe:

Its hard to respond to the question though, because I don't understand what they mean with "realities". How many realities? I'd be inclined to answer one, simply because there is reality, its not like there is some Reality 2 on the other side :lol:, but its hard to approach without an understanding of what they meant.


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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
    #7945962 - 01/28/08 04:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Spiritual Seeker said:
Then there was a reflection and we were asked questions about what kind of Realities we saw.




In your class, what constitutes a reality.....?


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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #7945994 - 01/28/08 04:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Infinite subjective, one objective.

Do fish have their own reality? Bacteria?


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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: WScott]
    #7946012 - 01/28/08 04:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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one objective.


Yeah? Somehow I feel there is no objective reality...If there is, though, I don't think it is "out there" in a non-sentient universe.


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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: WScott]
    #7946017 - 01/28/08 04:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Reality in perceives only subjectively, since all the reality that we know is filtered through the mind.


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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: Lion]
    #7946021 - 01/28/08 04:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

There are 26.78 realities in that picture... clearly.

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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7946163 - 01/28/08 04:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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MushroomTrip said:
Reality in perceives only subjectively, since all the reality that we know is filtered through the mind.




Remove analysis from the equation. A painting is a painting, but can have many different interpretations.


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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: WScott]
    #7946181 - 01/28/08 04:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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WScottsdale said:
A painting is a painting, but can have many different interpretations.




You mean like, Image, Painting, Picture, Photo, Drawing, Sketch, etc....?


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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: WScott]
    #7946215 - 01/28/08 04:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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WScottsdale said:
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MushroomTrip said:
Reality in perceives only subjectively, since all the reality that we know is filtered through the mind.




Remove analysis from the equation. A painting is a painting, but can have many different interpretations.




I did not say that objective reality doesn't exit, but I did say that it can't be perceived.
In the moment that it is perceived it becomes objective.
In this case, the only difference between real and unreal remains the prove, the test. It doesn't mean that IT is (objective) reality itself, but it does mean that we found a common ground, a system in which those views are actually working.


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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7946233 - 01/28/08 05:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

A picture is worth a thousand realities.


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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7946238 - 01/28/08 05:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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backfromthedead said:
A picture is worth a thousand realities.




*interpretations


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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #7946338 - 01/28/08 05:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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PhanTomCat said:You mean like, Image, Painting, Picture, Photo, Drawing, Sketch, etc....?




No, in the sense that art can evoke different responses in people. Reactions, perceptions, criticisms, whatever. Objective reality, or Truth, is the same way. Look at the countless amounts of cultures, philosophies, teachings and religions all stemming from, basically, the same world. A good analogy for this might be a prism. White light being the Truth and the prism being the thing that is perceiving it. The gradients of colour, or interpretations, are infinite but are still part of the original source.

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MushroomTrip said:I did not say that objective reality doesn't exit, but I did say that it can't be perceived.
In the moment that it is perceived it becomes objective (subjective?).
In this case, the only difference between real and unreal remains the prove, the test. It doesn't mean that IT is (objective) reality itself, but it does mean that we found a common ground, a system in which those views are actually working.




What do you mean by test?


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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: WScott]
    #7946353 - 01/28/08 05:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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test1 /tɛst/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[test] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. the means by which the presence, quality, or genuineness of anything is determined; a means of trial.
2. the trial of the quality of something: to put to the test.
3. a particular process or method for trying or assessing.
4. a set of questions, problems, or the like, used as a means of evaluating the abilities, aptitudes, skills, or performance of an individual or group; examination.
5. Psychology. a set of standardized questions, problems, or tasks designed to elicit responses for use in measuring the traits, capacities, or achievements of an individual.
6. Chemistry.
a. the process of identifying or detecting the presence of a constituent of a substance, or of determining the nature of a substance, commonly by the addition of a reagent.
b. the reagent used.
c. an indication or evidence of the presence of a constituent, or of the nature of a substance, obtained by such means.
7. an oath or other confirmation of one's loyalty, religious beliefs, etc.
8. British. a cupel for refining or assaying metals.
–verb (used with object)
9. to subject to a test of any kind; try.
10. Chemistry. to subject to a chemical test.
11. Metallurgy. to assay or refine in a cupel.
–verb (used without object)
12. to undergo a test or trial; try out.
13. to perform on a test: People test better in a relaxed environment.
14. to conduct a test: to test for diabetes.




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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7946388 - 01/28/08 05:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

:rolleyes: Could you use a diagram maybe?


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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: WScott]
    #7946396 - 01/28/08 05:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So explain to me please, what seems to be bothering you from my post?
The fact that I have quoted a definition instead of saying that SAME thing with my words?
Because I would have given you the same answer. :shrug:


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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7946434 - 01/28/08 05:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I was looking for you to say it in a different way. I didn't fully understand what you meant is all. Sorry, I thought you were being a smart ass so I replied the same.

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Re: So in Philosophy class today......... [Re: WScott]
    #7946459 - 01/28/08 05:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

No, I was really not being. :shrug:
This is what I really meant by test.


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