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OfflineMadtowntripper
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Questions for our Fasc...Err...Republican Friends
    #7945932 - 01/28/08 03:56 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

So I'm a political junkie. I love politics in all its forms, I've been following them for most of my conscious life, and I'm generally pretty knowledgeable about most things politics. I'm a yellow-dog Democrat, but I have quite a few Republican friends and follow that side of the political scene pretty closely. On that vein, I have a couple of points of conversation about the Republican presidential race...

1) Have those of you who support one or another of the Republican candidates given any consideration to whom they might choose as a running mate? I cannot see Romney deigning to be a VP to anyone. He seems like an executive, not a vice executive. Would anyone assign any weight to a "Mccain/Lieberman" ticket? This scenario is scary to me as a democrat. I think Mccain is by far the most electable candidate on that side in the general, and a ticket that had him and an older Northeastern Jew who brings some Democratic voters with him is extremely frightening. But Mccain might not be open to doing this since he is already being painted as a liberal by Republican Hatchet Artists. Thoughts?

Could Huckabee be a VP candidate? He has certainly been amicable to the other candidates, and he would give the other party on the ticket instant credit with evangelicals.

2) Somewhat of a follow up, how do you Republicans view the Religious-Right Wing of the Republican party? Do you consider them actual conservatives? Or are they just along for the ride? I know that recently Rove has acted as if the evangelicals were in the back-pocket of the Republican party, but recently the two sides seem to be drifting apart. Do you think a split is in the offing, with the GOP splitting off into a traditional Republican fiscally conservative wing and a moronic Jesus-Freak Hate-The-Gay social wing?

I'll stop before I get out of hand and long-winded. Answers would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Questions for our Fasc...Err...Republican Friends [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7946194 - 01/28/08 04:53 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

> Could Huckabee be a VP candidate?

I don't see it. I think Huckabee is going to take a pounding. A lot of conservatives jumped on his wagon because he is a bible thumper, but once they realize that he is a liberal spender in conservative clothing, most of his support will migrate elsewhere.

Not that it matters... I don't think anybody that the Republican party will put forward can beat the Democrats this round. (This isn't to say that I think the Democrats are unbeatable.)


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Re: Questions for our Fasc...Err...Republican Friends [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7946258 - 01/28/08 05:06 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

If McCain gets the nomination then the conservative base will split. (The conservative party will find their own candidate and run him as an independent in the general election.)

IMO Mitt Romney would kick Hillary's ass, and he could compete against the magic Negro. But Obama would easily beat McCain or Huckabee.....


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Re: Questions for our Fasc...Err...Republican Friends [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7947075 - 01/28/08 07:27 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

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Madtowntripper said:
So I'm a political junkie. I love politics in all its forms, I've been following them for most of my conscious life, and I'm generally pretty knowledgeable about most things politics. I'm a yellow-dog Democrat, but I have quite a few Republican friends and follow that side of the political scene pretty closely. On that vein, I have a couple of points of conversation about the Republican presidential race...

1) Have those of you who support one or another of the Republican candidates given any consideration to whom they might choose as a running mate? I cannot see Romney deigning to be a VP to anyone. He seems like an executive, not a vice executive. Would anyone assign any weight to a "Mccain/Lieberman" ticket? This scenario is scary to me as a democrat. I think Mccain is by far the most electable candidate on that side in the general, and a ticket that had him and an older Northeastern Jew who brings some Democratic voters with him is extremely frightening. But Mccain might not be open to doing this since he is already being painted as a liberal by Republican Hatchet Artists. Thoughts?




McCain is not on board with a lot of the party, me included. He is weak, weak, weak on two big issues. To wit economics and border security. He is fairly hawkish in blather about foreign policy but I do not trust his steadfastness in the face of any criticism. You cannot lead by the polls, you can only follow. A mixed party ticket will not happen in my lifetime and probably not yours. I also disagree with your idea that he is most electable. I don't expect him to win the nomination.
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Could Huckabee be a VP candidate? He has certainly been amicable to the other candidates, and he would give the other party on the ticket instant credit with evangelicals.




No, he is a lunatic who is death in the general, especially with either McCain or Romney at the top, though for different reasons.
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2) Somewhat of a follow up, how do you Republicans view the Religious-Right Wing of the Republican party?




Hate them
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Do you consider them actual conservatives?


No
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Or are they just along for the ride? I know that recently Rove has acted as if the evangelicals were in the back-pocket of the Republican party, but recently the two sides seem to be drifting apart. Do you think a split is in the offing, with the GOP splitting off into a traditional Republican fiscally conservative wing and a moronic Jesus-Freak Hate-The-Gay social wing?




I fucking hope not. Unless all the Dems spontaneously combust. Then I say, bring it on Jesus freaks.
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I'll stop before I get out of hand and long-winded. Answers would be greatly appreciated.




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