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#7944243 - 01/28/08 08:18 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Ammm yeah, i was just wondering what shroomery audience knows about demons?
What do u know about beings bible calls demons, spill the beans
I'll start the discussion with telling you that 2 highest ranking "demons" - satan and "the one not to be named" are both humans. That is theyre both from another worlds and planets yet theyre human beings.
There are many classes of demonic type of beings: 12 like the bible says.
I will tell u more if your interested
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Re: Demons [Re: Jalruza]
#7944266 - 01/28/08 08:31 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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im interested.
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ive heard of the one not to be named. What is that name? So i guess im interested.
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Re: Demons [Re: Jalruza]
#7944283 - 01/28/08 08:41 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Most defiantly am I interested. If it okay I'd like to share some back story. When I was a kid I could always see things that weren't there, I'd see people and animals with more color around them, plants would give off a radiance, and at night I would see apocalyptic images and skulls flying through the air at ma and around the room. In about 2001 I wished and hoped that I could have the energy and inner strength to get the things I wanted and where I wanted to be. I prayed as hard as I could, probably more and more before I finally became paralyzed in my bed. Voices in my head that weren't of the shining light we search for. I felt possessed with a new driving force in my life. It was good for a long time, but in 2005 I almost died from a blood clot in my brain. I slowly recovered, but ever since, I've been able at times, to talk (mentally) to a force that has me believing in myself and that what I did was wrong. Did I work a deal with a devil? Did I almost end my life because of unseen forces? Or will this never be finalized?
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If anyone of you read Robert Anton Wilsons "Illuminatus Trilogy" then you probably heard of "The one not to be named". He is satans right hand. The reaosn they call him that is becuase he got a monad, a TALENT if you will, that if u call him a NAME (and he doesnt like u much) he can kill you at a distance. So, dont call him names!
RA.Wilson in his book also talks about beings called lloigor. Lloigor = what the bible calls demons. Basicly another name for them. Read Illuminatus Trilogy, theres tons of info there
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Re: Demons [Re: Jalruza]
#7944298 - 01/28/08 08:48 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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nmajon
U probably encountered some kind of astral entity. Beside demons there are thousands of astral type entities out there. Encounters with demons are pretty rare
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Re: Demons [Re: Jalruza]
#7944314 - 01/28/08 08:58 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Jalruza said: Ammm yeah, i was just wondering what shroomery audience knows about demons?
What do u know about beings bible calls demons, spill the beans
I'll start the discussion with telling you that 2 highest ranking "demons" - satan and "the one not to be named" are both humans. That is theyre both from another worlds and planets yet theyre human beings.
There are many classes of demonic type of beings: 12 like the bible says.
I will tell u more if your interested
Wrong forum for flying spaghetti monsters.
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So how would you call them ? I think it has something to do with archetypes. For every angel, there's at least one demon to keep the balance
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So how would you call them ?
Personified fears.
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Re: Demons [Re: Jalruza]
#7944871 - 01/28/08 11:28 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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So it really could've happened and I'm not alone? I've had almost crippling attacks on my ego when specific dates roll around. Does that mean the astral entity is still watching? Will I ever have a clean slate or can I expect to have another attack? I don't mean to ask open ended questions like this, but I'm pretty anxious about something of such significance.
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Re: Demons [Re: nmajon]
#7944897 - 01/28/08 11:34 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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I think you're done for.:(
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I think you'd be able to rest easy if you gave up the idea of some outside demonic force attacking your ego. You are your ego, ego is everything. Ego is point of view. A demon can't attack your point of view because that demon exists as your viewpoint - as Icelander said, it's a mentally projected personified fear.
I used to have night terrors where the same "demons" would attack me in my dreams every night. However, now I realize (thanks to P&S actually) that these demons were a product of my own mind. So asking the question "is it still watching me?" is meaningless because it isn't separate from you.
Who knows though, maybe you are different. I've always been sensitive to things like astral projection and lucid dreaming but I've never knowingly encountered something separate from me in the astral world in my everyday life, aside from when I'm asleep.
Honestly the thing you talk about being possessed sounds like a psychotic break to me.
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No one can take away the experiences we have in our lifetime, and almost everything we do affects who we are. I can't change how I felt, what I feel happened. Something completely outside myself, using my own voice in my mind, asked me if I learned anything on the anniversary of my almost death. As each year goes by, I know I ask myself what could've happened. But I USED TO live each day wondering why I was still here, why didn't I just die on the side of the road where the emt's found me. Wondering how not 2 days later, a friend dies of the same fate. She died of the same thing that if I wasn't prepared for(I WAS a full time martial artist, and was an armature body builder) I would've shared the same fate. But I didn't, and now I have a gift I KNOW I didn't have before. I was alone at work one night when I could only stand still, I closed my eyes and began to cry. A voice didn't speak in my mind, but I could here it and I took a knee, I responded that I need to continue, that I've learned from this. A second non-speaking voice was also there, and I know I felt it. If I'm lying, then I'm dying. Has anyone else felt this presence?
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Re: Demons [Re: Jalruza]
#7945113 - 01/28/08 12:25 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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'When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops to you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.' ~Genesis 4:12, God speaking to Cain
'One day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them. The Lord said to Satan, "Where have you come from?" Satan answered the Lord, "From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it."' ~Job 1:6-7
I've been thinking about Cain being Satan, in the Bible, for a short while now. What do you think?
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Re: Demons [Re: WScott]
#7945122 - 01/28/08 12:26 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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I think God is Satan.
By calling Cain Satan you are calling a whole people (his offspring) Satanic.
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Icelander said: I think God is Satan.
By calling Cain Satan you are calling a whole people (his offspring) Satanic.
As does this site.
That is like calling all your offspring 'Icelanders'. 'Satanic' is also hard to define these days..
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Re: Demons [Re: WScott]
#7945157 - 01/28/08 12:34 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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My offspring are Icelander's. All of them.
'Satanic' is also hard to define these days.. =evil. What's hard about that?
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"My offspring are Icelander's. All of them. "
pfft.. Icelandic or something then (you'd better not be from Iceland). I think you know what my point was.
"=evil. What's hard about that?"
There are self proclaimed Satanists on this board. They don't seem evil to me. In one thread, I think that the point was made that Satanism is 'split up' much the same way as Christianity. Then you have all the crap with the Roman Catholic church. Astronomers, musicians, scientists, etc. They are evil too?
A tangent off this is, those astronomers, musicians and scientists.. are they displaying Luciferian spirit as opposed to Satanic evil? I don't think it is black and white.. but then, what is?
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Re: Demons [Re: WScott]
#7945507 - 01/28/08 02:04 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Well I am from Iceland by way of Africa.
I doubt any religious haters would be confused about the meaning of Satanic when it comes to the offspring of Cain.
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There is an entire eco-system in the 5th dimension just teeming with life, consisting of as many different kinds of creatures as there are here in 3D.
Demons and Angels are kind of childish concepts, imo. Reality is much more complex.
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I can say the same about the 9th dimension. Highest ranking demons reside in there.
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Re: Demons [Re: Jalruza]
#7949187 - 01/29/08 03:54 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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5th dimension is Pleiades! There r some sexy momas in that one, ive seen them there hot!!
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Re: Demons [Re: WScott]
#7949214 - 01/29/08 05:07 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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WScottsdale said: 'When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops to you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.' ~Genesis 4:12, God speaking to Cain
'One day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them. The Lord said to Satan, "Where have you come from?" Satan answered the Lord, "From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it."' ~Job 1:6-7
I've been thinking about Cain being Satan, in the Bible, for a short while now. What do you think?
Hebrew Bible was constructed in 2000BC around that time give or take 1000 years. It does not depict true accounts of how earth was created.
Garden of Eden is just a poetic way of describing things that happened.
To start with, 50,000 years ago when humans were first seeded on to this planet by our god Anu, we were living as single souls, both male and female in one body. That, was the time of Lemuria.
Then atlantis came where humans were covered with fur, THEN first human lke man appeared as a result of mutation... bla, thats how Illuminati was formed too, at the time of ATlantis read RAWs Illuminatus Trilogy - WEALTH of info.
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Re: Demons [Re: Jalruza]
#7949241 - 01/29/08 05:51 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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> on to this planet by our god Anu
Please leave me out of your blasphemy. Your god, not mine.
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Re: Demons [Re: Jalruza]
#7949411 - 01/29/08 07:59 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Jalruza said: If anyone of you read Robert Anton Wilsons "Illuminatus Trilogy" then you probably heard of "The one not to be named". He is satans right hand. The reaosn they call him that is becuase he got a monad, a TALENT if you will, that if u call him a NAME (and he doesnt like u much) he can kill you at a distance. So, dont call him names!
RA.Wilson in his book also talks about beings called lloigor. Lloigor = what the bible calls demons. Basicly another name for them. Read Illuminatus Trilogy, theres tons of info there
You are aware that is a work of fiction, right?
The Cosmic Trigger series is a bit more factual, imo.
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What forum is this? 
Does anyone in this thread have the least shred of real evidence for what I consider this childish non-sense and self-aggrandizing BS? If not I suggest the Mystery forum for this kind of "discussion".
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> Does anyone in this thread have the least shred of real evidence for what I consider this childish non-sense and self-aggrandizing BS?
Apparently the sarcasm dripping from my previous post wasn't thick enough...
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You are perfectly right about personified fear here. We all can and could bring reasonable arguments why and how those 'beings' exist and what to do about it
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Maybe this discussion is too grand scale for some. Also you need an imagination for visualization too.
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Re: Demons [Re: nmajon]
#7959506 - 01/31/08 09:15 AM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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Yeah that's it. I would rather have sexual visualizations myself. Seems more productive.
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Re: Demons [Re: Jalruza]
#7960448 - 01/31/08 02:32 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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Jalruza said: I can say the same about the 9th dimension. Highest ranking demons reside in there.
Personally, I find The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension much more pertinent (and amusing).
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Duke of new york, you might want to google "spirit releasement".
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Re: Demons [Re: Jalruza]
#7962066 - 01/31/08 08:48 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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The Bible, which is to say the New Testament and the Council of Nicaea's ordering of the Tenach, which most people call The Old Testament, does not class demons. Demonology is strictly a medieval phenomena as is a 'celestial hierarchy' composed by Pseudo-Dionysius (5th-6th century C.E.). Neat little celestial and infernal hierarchies are interesting reading and reflect the quasi-scientific attempt at the classification of non-material 'influences.' I probably enjoys todays classification of mental disorders for similar reasons.
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Threads like this really make me question the sanity of our members sometimes...
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appleorange said: Threads like this really make me question the sanity of our members sometimes...
Did you see the reptillians thread?
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Re: Demons [Re: eagle25]
#7964213 - 02/01/08 10:21 AM (16 years, 15 hours ago) |
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Thanks! I think it's an interesting field of study that deserves AT LEAST a look, it's definitely had me thinking, and to have people take a serious approach to this makes it feel less hokey.
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