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scruffymafia
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Trichocereus Pachanoi???
#7943414 - 01/27/08 11:53 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Hey everyone,
I bought some 'San Pedro' Trichocereus Pachanoi cacti from a cacti nursery about 2 weeks ago - one was really healthy looking (1ft in length) and the other was bit of a mutant which she sold for cheap. The lady who owned the place was sure that what she gave me some 'San Pedros'. The label said Trichocereus Pachanol, which i hoped was just a typo/misunderstanding or maybe she just wrote her 'i's as 'l's.
But as i researched them more i saw that basically all San Pedros had about 7-8 ribs where mine had 6 and the other 5. Just all these little things are making me wonder wether or not i have got the real-deal.
So could you guys check out my cacti and give me some feedback?
Much appreciated, Chur!
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Edited by scruffymafia (01/27/08 11:56 PM)
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FarFromHere
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The first one is awesome!
Not T. pachanoi...
T. scopulicola or maybe T. bridgesii....can't really tell...
It's a Trichocereus tho!
The 2nd one is San Pedro for sure.
Dude! Trichocereus pachanoi IS "San Pedro"!!!!
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Edited by FarFromHere (01/28/08 02:06 AM)
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Re: Trichocereus Pachanoi??? [Re: FarFromHere]
#7943757 - 01/28/08 01:46 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Pachanoi usually has between 5-8 ribs.
The first one looks like it's scopulicola, the second is pachanoi.
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scruffymafia
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Re: Trichocereus Pachanoi??? [Re: FarFromHere]
#7943770 - 01/28/08 01:54 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Awsome! Cheers mate!
I was thinking that there was something not quite right with it, but i took my chances because thought i may end up with a gem. Hopefully i have
I know Trichocereus Pachanoi is San Pedro, but the label had a L instead of an I on the end of pachanoi. Just made me question the ability of the owner to know what they were doing.
Thanks again bro, im gonna go buy some big ones now to get *something* up-ed !!!!! The nursery sells 4ft tall San Pedros for $15 - looks like im gonna get *something-ed*!!! Hahahaha!
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Edited by scruffymafia (01/28/08 11:59 PM)
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casgoodie
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you want to use cactus to get fucked up and wasted?
try something else
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Re: Trichocereus Pachanoi??? [Re: casgoodie]
#7943807 - 01/28/08 02:10 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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I know its not that kinda buzz, but its still gonna get me on a plain.
Why not try cactus?
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I think he's trying to say respect the cactus.
You should try cactus tho, if you want to.
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Re: Trichocereus Pachanoi??? [Re: FarFromHere]
#7945372 - 01/28/08 01:28 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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exactly, have some respect. if you only use entheogens for entertainment you should be using synthetics maybe. you should try to learn from them, not try to have them get you wasted or fucked up.
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The T. scopulicolas I've seen have more angular ribs. Both T. Pachanoi if you ask me. A drop in rib count can make them look weird..
Nice find =0)
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Re: Trichocereus Pachanoi??? [Re: Cakes]
#7945934 - 01/28/08 03:56 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Wow- the first one is neat!
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Re: Trichocereus Pachanoi??? [Re: Knoa6]
#7946373 - 01/28/08 05:26 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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I'm betting the one in the pic up top is ethier really potent or a complete dud.
I'd eat the bottom part and re-root it at the point where it swells.
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Re: Trichocereus Pachanoi??? [Re: FarFromHere]
#7946991 - 01/28/08 07:18 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Please don't eat that cactus, it's too unique. If you did buy the cactus for the purpose of eating it, PM me first.
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Re: Trichocereus Pachanoi??? [Re: Knoa6]
#7947012 - 01/28/08 07:20 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Eat the bottom part not the tip.
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Re: Trichocereus Pachanoi??? [Re: FarFromHere]
#7947210 - 01/28/08 07:43 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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the first one looks like a bunch of the juuls giant's i have seen, and it also looks like the juuls giant i have :-)
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Re: Trichocereus Pachanoi??? [Re: royer]
#7947260 - 01/28/08 07:51 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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It looks like it started with 4 ribs.
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Re: Trichocereus Pachanoi??? [Re: Knoa6]
#7947419 - 01/28/08 08:15 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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i think more pics of it would help , it looks like it got more light for a while (where the bulge is) then was put back under the same light it was getting toward the bottom
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Re: Trichocereus Pachanoi??? [Re: royer]
#7948369 - 01/28/08 11:06 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Wow cheers for the help and feedback everyone!
I get exactly what you mean casgoodie, i respect the cactus very much. What i said did sound pretty nubish but hey, i was excited that they were indeed teacher cacti.
I am going to keep my two cacti to grow for a few years before doing any *pruning* - i am definitely not going to slaughter them, despite huge pressure from my mates....
But i will buy some more mature cacti for some wisdom prunings soon.
I will give description of the two cacti to help clarify things:
The positively ID'd San Pedro i call 'Schnappi' because he is green and awesome. Schnappi has short spines about 2-3mm long and are mildly translucent with a redish color at the base, fading to a pale yellow then to brown at the tips. There are generally 4-6 spines per node, with the bottom most spine usually being the longest by about 1mm. The spines on Schnappi are arranged in a circular pattern and the node is either indented or flat (rarely protruding from the skin line of cactus) and about 2mm in diameter and have a small amount of fuzz in them.
The mutant/undetermined which i call 'Barney' - because like Barney the dinosaur, he is misunderstood - and a bit chubby in the mid section. Barney seems to be very confused, as he has two completely different halves. His bottom half (about 3 inches) has spines that very much resemble the size and layout of Schnappi's, except they are not translucent and are a sun-bleached wood color. His trunk is a almost a perfect pentagon shape with flat sides. Just where he begins grow fat there are strange 'Y' shaped abrasions/scars, the 'V' part is formed by formations of small scars that look like the stretch marks on fat-chicks.
Up at his bulge is where his spines get quite weird, they are again a sun-bleached wood color (fresher spines have a yellowish base, but are definitely not translucent). The spine nodes generally have about 3-4 spines about 3-4mm long, the bottom or top spine comes nearly right out of the middle of the node and is notably longer than the rest (up to 7-8mm). Barney's spine nodes are alot different again to that of Schnappi's. They are usually about 4mm in diameter and protrude from the skin about 2mm. With more longer, thicker and whiter fuzz.
Another notable difference is the mottled colors on Barney (resembles the pattern that gingers get on their legs after exercise) and the difference in growth rates (Barney has grown about 22mm in 2 weeks and Schappi has only grown about 9mm in 2 weeks).
And heres some more angles of Barney (he's such a poser!).










And Schnappi so you can check out his spines and nodes.


Sorry about the crap phone pics, my digital camera went fishing for a week, will get some decent pics up soon i hope.
Knoa6: I wont eat it! No way, its my precious! Do you want me to give you a trip report if i do?
royer9864: I checked out the Juul's Giants on google just then, i think you may be onto something!
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Edited by scruffymafia (01/29/08 12:03 AM)
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