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psilo extraction?
    #7943358 - 01/27/08 11:32 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

does anyone have a link with a tek of psilocybin extraction with alcohal including pics of the process?


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Re: psilo extraction? [Re: flushme]
    #7943376 - 01/27/08 11:42 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Why the hell are you going to ruin a bunch of mushrooms?


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Re: psilo extraction? [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7943396 - 01/27/08 11:49 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

not ruin, extract


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Re: psilo extraction? [Re: flushme]
    #7943498 - 01/28/08 12:14 AM (16 years, 5 days ago)

it extracts quite well with water, or acidic juice. it's not alcohol soluble, it's water.

best way would be to powder it, put it in liquid in the fridge for a couple days, (stirring every few hours to keep things moving) and strain out the solids later.


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Re: psilo extraction? [Re: wolfiexiii]
    #7944053 - 01/28/08 06:46 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

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wolfiexiii said:
it extracts quite well with water, or acidic juice. it's not alcohol soluble, it's water.

best way would be to powder it, put it in liquid in the fridge for a couple days, (stirring every few hours to keep things moving) and strain out the solids later.




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Re: psilo extraction? [Re: flushme]
    #7944214 - 01/28/08 08:01 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Are you trying to smoke it or just extract and take orally?

Psilocybin doesn't exist in freebase form (see zwiterrion), while Psilocin does. There isn't a solvent I don't think that you can use to extract them both at the same time, as they have varying solubilities, so depends. Psilocin is much more versatile though.

You could either just extract Psilocin, which might be easier and less time consuming (and Psilocybin is broken down into Psilocin in the body anyways), or you could do both. I'd say just go for extracting the psilocin and save yourself some time, if you don't mind losing a little psilocybin and/or have the mushrooms to spare.

Powder up the psilocybe mushroom of your choice, and do a high ph extraction with 70% Ethanol for the best results/yield. Then convert to HCl salts with some acidic water, evaporate, let dry, weigh, and load it up into capsules. That's pretty much how you'd go about doing it.


Or you get get them both, but you'd have to extract multiple times from the same batch using two different solvents for each alkaloid. At the end you'd have your own two little batches of pure psilocin and psilocybin HCl, so that's cool. Just depends how much work you want to do.

Just some comments from the peanut gallery... :smile2:


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Re: psilo extraction? [Re: Robo]
    #7944236 - 01/28/08 08:15 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

From what I understand, psilocin in the mushroom quickly turns to psilocybin as it dries. If you were to start with a powdered dry mushroom, you would not have much psilocin to extract.


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Re: psilo extraction? [Re: 04281969]
    #7944248 - 01/28/08 08:22 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

You know I heard about this oxidation thing, it seems debatable....

Do you have a source or a link?

All I know is psilocybin is phosphorylated into psilocin the body. But if this dry vs. wet thing is true however, water or Methanol would work for psilocybin according to the link I posted and the Merck(As well as the suggestion of the poster who said to use H20). Its not like it would hurt to try anyway extracting both with the multiple solvents if you are using filtration to separate your product from solvent and not evaporating.

I don't know about the wet vs. dry thing though, I thought it was bogus at first but then there was a thread on it in the chem thread so now I am questioning it's validity. Beats me :stump:


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