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Ego Death
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Accepting your own death
#7942173 - 01/27/08 07:26 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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I think one of the hardest things for us humans to grasp is the concept of death. We have to accept/ignore that we are going to die.
We can make this theories like "reincarnation". Truthful that is possible, nobody knows yet but we do know that accepting our inevitable deaths is something that is certainly not easy.
Honestly, where are you at?
Does it scare you? Are you ignoring it. Have you meditated on the thoughts and truly come to terms with them. Is there another way of thinking about it?
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Ego Death]
#7942203 - 01/27/08 07:31 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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Honestly, where are you at?
Does it scare you?
I don't even know anymore.
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Lion]
#7942218 - 01/27/08 07:35 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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I think about it constantly. And over time i notice that the thought scares me less and less, but when it comes down to the thought of non existence i almost have a panic attack. All you can do is keep dosing until you get it right.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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Someone on this forum once made a comment on a similar thread to this one. I can honestly say that it's helped change my view on death. He stated something along the lines of....
"Im not afraid to die....i wanna know what happens, hopefully it isnt for a while".
I never read or heard anyone state "I wanna" with death in the same sentence except for "I wanna go to heaven" or "I wanna not die"
BUt to say you want to see what happens is a powerful remark. Yes I am slightly afraid of what is going to happen. I dont know if god exists, and i dont know how "Intense" the other side will be. I do believe that we get Reborn. Its a sign of life that happens over and over again. You can see rebirth in christianity (Baptism), Nature (Death of Trees then comming to life), ect.
Being Reborn im starting to see is what happens alot on earth, and there is nothing more awsome, forgiving or wonderful as the idea of getting another chance. Im not ready to die for a while. But by the time I die I want to be able to do one of the following on my death bed....
Crack a Joke
Laugh and be excited for the Ultamite Spiritual Experiance
Almost come to Tears and Pray I get to experiance the awsomeness of being human again!
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sorry, i'm going to have to take credit for that statement 
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I wouldn't, simply because I'm very curious about what awaits after death even if I won't be there to find out.
when asked if i would end everything in the universe right now based on my experience so far if i could...
i'm honored that my words had an effect on you  just goes to show that people can indeed take something valuable away from the P&S forum
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Ego Death]
#7942659 - 01/27/08 08:56 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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in all honesty, i don't *think* it's possibly for anyone to come to terms, 100%, with their death until it occurs, and even then i doubt a lot of people do
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I'm pretty good at facing death, as a lot of people around me have died and I've come pretty close myself on several occasions. I got hit by a car when I was 11 years old, and I had no awareness of it aside from a sort of dreamy image of the car swerving, myself feeling weightless and thinking "wow, i'm so lucky i'm standing here and that car didn't hit me just now." Which of course is totally hilarious because when that car swerved I was unconscious on the road. So anyways, I guess the point is that dying isn't scary because the body has all kinds of wonderful coping mechanisms that make it not scary-- your brain becomes saturated in all sorts of fantastic drugs.
I'm also completely comfortable with the concept of non-existence. I definitly don't want to die anytime soon though, and so I suppose I am afraid of the prospect of dying young... maybe half the reason I'm comfortable with death is that I imagine it to be something that'll happen in the distant future.
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: NiamhNyx]
#7942752 - 01/27/08 09:14 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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Death! You mean *gulp* we all die? (I am in a whimsical mood tonight, can ya tell?)
I prefer to remain in total denial. Life is something special and beautiful and worth celebrating. Death intrudes by taking loved ones without our permission. While I understand that certain moments cause us to contemplate it and I have had my share of those same as everyone else, my preference is to not dwell on it.
Oh I did the "dark period" during my late teens. A time when most of us really comprehend we are mortal. But I have had too much death around me to want to dwell on it any more.
And the thing is, until it happens we will never know what's waiting for us. We can guess and speculate but it's all a futile exercise.
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Ego Death]
#7942780 - 01/27/08 09:19 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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It's story time!! 
So Chuang Tzu had a story, which I'm sure is an old story but this is where I got it from...
basically there's 2 ppl, one likes to party and embellishes in material things and then there's the rustic, naturalist who sips on the morning dew of leaves for sustinence.
blablabla... the partier came down with a disease, hospitalized, and dying. His dying was the most painful thing imaginable as everything he held so much value in, materialistic shit, was leaving him... he didn't know himself.
Story goes on... rustic was attacked by a tiger, who tore his skin off. He lay propped aside a tree and smiled as his life fainted away. He knew himself and was fine.
moral of the story, find out who you are.
-------------------- The best way to live is to be like water For water benefits all things and goes against none of them It provides for all people and even cleanses those places a man is loath to go In this way it is just like Tao ~Daodejing
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Cracka_X]
#7942812 - 01/27/08 09:25 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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Oh! I thought the moral of the story was gonna be since they both died they might as well both have partied.
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: mushbaby]
#7942929 - 01/27/08 09:44 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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haha, living life to the fullest is a good idea too.
-------------------- The best way to live is to be like water For water benefits all things and goes against none of them It provides for all people and even cleanses those places a man is loath to go In this way it is just like Tao ~Daodejing
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Cracka_X]
#7943009 - 01/27/08 09:57 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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i have had dreams where i died. and afterwrods everything was dark, but i knew something was coming/going to happen (or felt like something was) i don't know what to believe in, actively as religion (i am agnostic) but it really felt like something was up.
whenever i think about dying i get this intense feeling that it just feels like while alive/human i wouldn't be able to handle.. like if i got the feeling that death brough while i was alive i would go fucking insane. sometimes it gives me the feeling so strongly and mysteriously i have to stop thinking about it, as interesting this feeling is to me.
i am completely at terms with the fact that i will one day die, and hold very tightly that it is the greatest mystery that will be answered to me (consciously or not).
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Ego Death]
#7943081 - 01/27/08 10:14 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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Ultimately, I'd like to be able to feel like my life is so full that it'd be ok to die at any moment, and not project my death into some deferred and distant future. I think that would be liberating. I'm almost in that place, but not quite.
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: NiamhNyx]
#7943090 - 01/27/08 10:15 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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theres so much i want to do.. but it has been enough to me to have anticipated it.
i feel like i could die at any time, but i don't really WANT to.
-------------------- I don't believe in cops, bosses, or politicians. Some call that anarchism. I call it having a fucking heart that beats.
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: igwna]
#7943846 - 01/28/08 02:29 AM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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any feeling you are searching in the "so many things left to do" is already inside of you
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: ShroomFan]
#7943966 - 01/28/08 05:03 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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ShroomFan said: any feeling you are searching in the "so many things left to do" is already inside of you
i'm sorry but i have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
-------------------- I don't believe in cops, bosses, or politicians. Some call that anarchism. I call it having a fucking heart that beats.
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Cracka_X]
#7943975 - 01/28/08 05:13 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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haha, living life to the fullest is a good idea too.
I can't think of a better idea than that. You got just this one life. Sanest thing is to live your own life, not burdended by the expectations of others.
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Ego Death]
#7944336 - 01/28/08 09:06 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Honestly, where are you at?
I don't give my address out on the internet.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Lion]
#7944338 - 01/28/08 09:07 AM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Lion said:
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Honestly, where are you at?
Does it scare you?
I don't even know anymore.
I second this.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Ego Death]
#7946348 - 01/28/08 05:22 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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I think that coming to terms with one's immortality occurs along a gradient, not all at once. Some of us must be forcibly moved along in the process by major health issues, accidents, etc...while others notice the cycle of change going on around them & progress on their own.
I would say that I am closer to acceptance than I was 20 years ago, but probably not as close as I will be 20 years from now. I was given a 50/50 chance of surviving childbirth complications 14 years ago, and this experience moved me into direct confrontation with my own mortality.
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Veritas]
#7946371 - 01/28/08 05:26 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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I agree with this. However I really don't know for sure where I'm actually at with death even though I work on this concept a lot. If it was knocking at the door I might welcome it in or freak out totally no matter what I think in the calm light of my computer.(actually your computer)
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Ego Death
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Icelander]
#7949488 - 01/29/08 08:20 AM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Someone appeared in a dream last night and said this "Life is death and death is life".
Strange. I hardly thought about this subject either. I dunno how to take that, so I won't make any assumptions.
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Icelander]
#7951143 - 01/29/08 04:18 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Icelander said: I agree with this. However I really don't know for sure where I'm actually at with death even though I work on this concept a lot. If it was knocking at the door I might welcome it in or freak out totally no matter what I think in the calm light of my computer.(actually your computer)
You know it's quite uncanny. Have you ever seen someone go from cancer? From what I've seen with family members by the time it's thru with them, they calmly face their death. It's like they are so exhausted with their life they come to terms with death and are ok with it.
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: mushbaby]
#7951453 - 01/29/08 05:12 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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The circumstances of one's death may have a lot to do with how it is handled.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Ego Death]
#7951713 - 01/29/08 06:07 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Ego Death said: I think one of the hardest things for us humans to grasp is the concept of death. We have to accept/ignore that we are going to die.
acceptance is bang on, although it is not neccesarily easy to totally accept this inevitability at all times during our life experience. acceptance is something to be cultivated over time through learning to flow with the present moment, rather than be consumed and identified with such thoughts and anxieties.
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Ego Death]
#7952265 - 01/29/08 07:45 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Ego Death said: Honestly, where are you at?
Honestly, I don't fear death.... I am going to live, I am going to die, I am looking forward to both....  However, I don't look forward to the possibility of a painful ending....
I look forward to seeing what happens (if anything at all), yet I also want to prolong life as long as possible.... As painful as it might sometimes be, experience itself is a fucking trip....! 
>^;;^<
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Veritas]
#7952833 - 01/29/08 09:00 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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I've been accepting of my future death for a few years now, although it may be just a front to myself. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it, though.
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Re: Accepting your own death [Re: Ego Death]
#7953980 - 01/29/08 11:59 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Ego Death said: Honestly, where are you at?
I don't like the idea of it and am going to try to avoid it.
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Life contains a process... an inevitable process. Birth--->Death. I meditate on it and it helps me come to terms with it as does tripping actually. Accept death, but don't commit suicide. Life is a precious thing that should be savored for as long as possible. But when the time comes, I will accept and flow with it to make it one of the most enlightening experiences instead of fighting and fearing it. Plus the eternal and my spirit will always be there whereas my body won't...I know it is decaying matter. But so I don't leave on such a morbid note, Life is a beautiful thing, but whose to say the eternal (or whatever you want to call it) isn't even more beautiful, I doubt many of us have witnessed it, i look forward to that moment. Peace.
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MushmanTheManic said:
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Ego Death said: Honestly, where are you at?
I don't like the idea of it and am going to try to avoid it.
Woody Allen said he didn't fear death. He just didn't want to be there when it happened.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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