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PulseTrip
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Hard decision :(
#7942121 - 01/27/08 07:14 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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Okay guys atm i have one jar of BRF/verm substrate 60% colonized with no contaminates
Im not sure wat to do with this single jar as i am inoculating more later this week. Its my first time growing btw
Should i dunk and roll the single cake or shud i crumble it and make casing from it?
Wat i want to achieve is the highest yield possible from the single cake
Please any advice would be very apreciated
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Day Tripper
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Re: Hard decision :( [Re: PulseTrip]
#7942150 - 01/27/08 07:22 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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First off, wait until it is 110% colonized before you do anything.
Secondly, look into spawning rye grains to coir/verm/gypsum, then casing it with 50/50+.
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PulseTrip
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well its a BRF/ verm cake and yes i know about waiting i just wanted to know so i could gather materials 
so wat about yield
questions also could one cake be enough for 1 person if they were dried?
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im_on_a_boat
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what is this 110% colonized bullshit? i am confused. do you mean wait until it is 100% colonized and then wait an extra week to increase the strength of my mycelium and its hold of the substrate?
sounds like you know what you're talking about but the 110% just throws me off.
and pulsetrip.. since you only have one cake and it's probably your first time i would probably keep it as a cake and birth it in normal fashion in a fruiting chamber/terrarium.
i would recommend dunking/rolling first but it's all up to you and what you want from your cakes.
after you're done with pftek and all that, definitely look into grains.
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Cubie
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Id do the casing for a bigger yield. I've never even done cakes. They sound stupid
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PulseTrip
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Re: Hard decision :( [Re: Cubie]
#7942214 - 01/27/08 07:35 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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yeah it is my first time and i only have one cake coz i only had one jar last week when i started and wasnt able to source any for another week after
So far things r going well, i may very well just dunk and roll it for my first grow. Thanks guys
Now back to Yield. Could i get one trip for one person from one cake? if i dried the shrooms?
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im_on_a_boat
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Re: Hard decision :( [Re: PulseTrip]
#7942225 - 01/27/08 07:37 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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yeah you could definitely get some badass harvest from cakes..
check out what my first flush did a while back..



here's what's goin on right now as far as cakes:


as far as casings, there are no pictures yet because nothing exciting is happening yet, but there will be. wbs cased with jiffy mix (put a bottom casing of verm)
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iTrip
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Re: Hard decision :( [Re: Cubie]
#7942254 - 01/27/08 07:41 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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Cubie said: Id do the casing for a bigger yield. I've never even done cakes. They sound stupid
im planning on doing casing too but in this case i would say to leave it as a cake since its only one
you can try casings with at least 2 or 3
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PulseTrip
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Those look amazing nik. Would the first cake be enough for one person to trip or would u need 2 cakes? Coz it looks like alot of shrooms wat was the wet and dry weight if u dont mind me asking of the first cake
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Re: Hard decision :( [Re: PulseTrip]
#7942282 - 01/27/08 07:46 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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You can get enough from 1 cake for a person to trip at least once. Also if you are thinking of greater yield from one cake look into spawning to coir. I've spawned a cake to coir and have gotten more yield. However, some say the extra step is an increase in risk.
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Day Tripper
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drkrobotnik said: what is this 110% colonized bullshit? i am confused. do you mean wait until it is 100% colonized and then wait an extra week to increase the strength of my mycelium and its hold of the substrate?
sounds like you know what you're talking about but the 110% just throws me off.
Yeah, it's slang for "be patient man", you know, when coach says give it 110%.
I mean let myc grow thick and strong before you damage him by G2G or spawning.
Sometime grain jars are technically 100% covered, but you can still make out some grains, covered thinly.
I think it's good advice to wait an extra 3-5 days at least.
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im_on_a_boat
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Re: Hard decision :( [Re: PulseTrip]
#7942286 - 01/27/08 07:46 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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they're doing alright.. just the first flush yet.. excited to see what the next flushes will produce.
one harvest off one cake should be plenty for one or two people.. just make sure you get multiple flushes out of it by dunking it between each flush..
really i think cakes are the easiest thing to do and you get easy and cheap results.
i dont have a scale.. drug dealers have scales.. so i cant tell you the weights.
usually i will pick out a healthy/responsible amount and eat them.
that one pin on that cake is lookin real good. i hope it gets monstrous.
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PulseTrip
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it does look massive and very shockingly like a penis lol
I hope i can pull enough from my one cake to get a trip after a do a few more cakes i myt try casing or crumble cake casing
And yes ur right i have no intension of being a drug dealer tis personal use just id go by weight on wat to eat instead of guessing
just my 2 quid
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Day Tripper
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Spawn some rye to coir man, much bigger yields than BRF, in general anyway, BRF can kick some major ass, but coir rules!
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casings produce a cleaner end-product(more visually appealing than cakes)
dunk and roll, will hydrate your cake nicely and usually produces great flushes consider how easy it is...Although, cakes look a lot less visually appealing-esp on your first grow. But, since it's your first-might be good to start with the dunk and roll tek.
good luck!
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PulseTrip
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thank you very much 
So far i think its going really well 
Im just woried my time will be wasted if there isnt even enough shrooms on one cake for a trip
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im_on_a_boat
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Re: Hard decision :( [Re: PulseTrip]
#7942456 - 01/27/08 08:24 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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there should be bro.. just give it the best conditions that you can and you'll yield the highest.. maybe even better than mine... i use fine verm for my cakes...
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Day Tripper
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Chill bro, it's never disappointing, and there is usually more there than you think.
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PulseTrip
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very true just the pentient now 
Wanted them to be ready for next friday but i had a big dealy with a family holiday so ill have to seek alternatives for friday :P
Yeah i ave course verm but i lightly rubbed it in between my hands to crubmle it down a bit
Also my verm has a goldish colour to it :S wat is that?
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Day Tripper
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Re: Hard decision :( [Re: PulseTrip]
#7942524 - 01/27/08 08:37 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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Get on a regular cycle, and you can harvest every week.
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PulseTrip
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yup thats wat i intend to do just not sure about this verm
Any idea you guys or is it just some wierd thing?
Also shud i sterilise the verm before rolling?
Im growing mexicans btw anyone got any expierence on these? and be able to give me a few hints?
Just need to get jars to get on a regular cycle so i can always have somethign fruiting
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im_on_a_boat
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Re: Hard decision :( [Re: PulseTrip]
#7943004 - 01/27/08 09:56 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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sterilzing the verm is usually not necessary, but it cant hurt..
you can nuke it or pc it..
i have lots of experience with mexicans. too damn many of them in texas. wish we could seal up the border and send the ones here back. as far as hints, dont feed them or house them unless you want 10587135 cousins moving in.

as far as the strain, no.. look at the strain thread
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thedefone
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i have lots of experience with mexicans. too damn many of them in texas. wish we could seal up the border and send the ones here back. as far as hints, dont feed them or house them unless you want 10587135 cousins moving in.
Ha! You're hilarious, you racist. I think we can do without that.
Sterilizing your verm shouldn't be necessary for dunking and rolling. Any spores in the vermiculite won't be able to get a foothold on fully colonized cakes. Good luck with your grow.
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im_on_a_boat
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Re: Hard decision :( [Re: thedefone]
#7943113 - 01/27/08 10:21 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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i'm not racist i have mexican friends..

naw.
i'm talking about illegals.. i have no problem with mexicans.
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thedefone
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Japanese Menudo, eh? I'm sure they were a hit. I like how Ricky Martin appears to be wearing a pink training bra.
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Edited by thedefone (01/27/08 10:27 PM)
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im_on_a_boat
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Re: Hard decision :( [Re: thedefone]
#7943138 - 01/27/08 10:28 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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lawlz!
have you ever seen the yatta! video?
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PulseTrip
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Heres some pictures of the cake atm
Looks really good for 4 days
and the temps are about 84F in my incubator 

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TokenZ
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Re: Hard decision :( [Re: PulseTrip]
#7946484 - 01/28/08 05:48 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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dude you think mexicans are bad in texas try rednecks, and hicks they vote for closet case rebulicans. don't let them find out about you hating them they will wipe their ass with the food you eat. every thing you touch mexicans touch first.
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im_on_a_boat
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Re: Hard decision :( [Re: TokenZ]
#7946625 - 01/28/08 06:14 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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fuck you. take a joke.. while you're at it, get an education. then you wont have to work at a restaurant and wipe your ass with people's food.. you'll be able to afford toilet paper.
everything i touch mexicans touch first..
LOL that's hilarious.
and yes there are lots of rednecks and hicks.
no big deal because they are legal citizens.
lol and 'closet case' republicans is not going to get a rise out of me.
i think most if not all politicians (aside from grassroots FTW!) are. so we can agree on those lines.
you seem like a cool kid, although why so angry?
chingao.. a la madre.. calmate..
go listen to some kumbia kings
azucita da da da da dahh
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