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Why chase wisdom?
    #7941717 - 01/27/08 06:08 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Wisdom, like all else before death, is meaningless. Both the fool and the wise man must die.

I wonder if when I am an old man looking back on my life, I will think to myself, "I have grown and increased in wisdom more than anyone who has posted in P&S before me. I have experienced a vast amount of wisdom and knowledge...

I've used my mind to understand wisdom and knowledge as well as madness and stupidity. Now I know that was simply another vain effort at grasping the ever-changing"


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7941744 - 01/27/08 06:12 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Wisdom in itself is worthless.
It is all about what one does with it.


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #7941782 - 01/27/08 06:19 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

The wise do not chase. Wisdom is not caught.


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #7941786 - 01/27/08 06:19 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

What does one do with wisdom?


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7941795 - 01/27/08 06:20 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Sounds like you've been reading Ecclesiastes, ECowabunga.


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #7941804 - 01/27/08 06:21 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

This is kind of what im stuck with right now on if i should continue going to college. WHats the point if im going to die?

Then i think to myself "Do I have a better way to pass the time?"

I think the answer is no. Living a life just for your own self isnt meaning in my opinion. If we were sent of earth to "Have Fun" Then there wouldnt be any pain in the world.

LIving a life to serve others im not sure is correct either.

I guess its a balancing act. SOrry i got side tracked with your question. But something tells me if there are 2 people on their death beds next to eachother....The one who smoked pot and partied is whole life wont experiance a "Awsome Death".

The guy who gave a shit and tried to be of SOME worth on this planet, whether it be KNowledge or helping the poor, Maybe his death will Kick serious ass!  :rockon:


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: deimya]
    #7941807 - 01/27/08 06:21 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

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deimya said:
The wise do not chase. Wisdom is not caught.




What about ignorance?


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: WScott]
    #7941817 - 01/27/08 06:22 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Uh, never really. Care to explain why it sounds familiar to you ?


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
    #7941841 - 01/27/08 06:25 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

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This is kind of what im stuck with right now on if i should continue going to college. WHats the point if im going to die?

Then i think to myself "Do I have a better way to pass the time?"

I think the answer is no. Living a life just for your own self isnt meaning in my opinion. If we were sent of earth to "Have Fun" Then there wouldnt be any pain in the world.

LIving a life to serve others im not sure is correct either.

I guess its a balancing act. SOrry i got side tracked with your question. But something tells me if there are 2 people on their death beds next to eachother....The one who smoked pot and partied is whole life wont experiance a "Awsome Death".

The guy who gave a shit and tried to be of SOME worth on this planet, whether it be KNowledge or helping the poor, Maybe his death will Kick serious ass!  :rockon:




I'm going through the same thing, that's why I made this thread :sun:

I also think it comes down to a kind of middle way..


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7941852 - 01/27/08 06:27 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

I think he was talking to me, deimya. The original post is based off a chapter in Ecclesiastes of the bible in which a teacher talks about how everything is meaningless


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7941853 - 01/27/08 06:27 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Ignorance is bliss, only one ignores this too.


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7941875 - 01/27/08 06:31 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

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I think he was talking to me, deimya. The original post is based off a chapter in Ecclesiastes of the bible in which a teacher talks about how everything is meaningless




Oh, I see that my ignorance just pierced right through then :yesnod:


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: deimya]
    #7941932 - 01/27/08 06:40 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Look up at the heavens and see;
gaze at the clouds so high above you.
If you sin, how does that effect him?
If your sins are many, what does that do to him?
If you are righteous, what do you give to him,
or what does he receive from your hand?
Your wickedness affects only a man like yourself,
and your righteousness only the sons of men.
~Job 35:5-8

I believe that this verse has something to do with the message of Ecclesiastes. In the grand scheme of things, in the vastness of the universe, what we do here is meaningless. Subjectively though, man to man, what we do and do to each other makes all the difference - to us.


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: WScott]
    #7941956 - 01/27/08 06:44 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Wisdom is useful to help you lead the most enjoyable and healthy life possible. Why would you disregard it? You could also claim that you can live life without intelligence, strength, morality, and character. And you can, but where will that lead you?


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: WScott]
    #7941983 - 01/27/08 06:49 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

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WScottsdale said:
Look up at the heavens and see;
gaze at the clouds so high above you.
If you sin, how does that effect him?
If your sins are many, what does that do to him?
If you are righteous, what do you give to him,
or what does he receive from your hand?
Your wickedness affects only a man like yourself,
and your righteousness only the sons of men.
~Job 35:5-8

I believe that this verse has something to do with the message of Ecclesiastes. In the grand scheme of things, in the vastness of the universe, what we do here is meaningless. Subjectively though, man to man, what we do and do to each other makes all the difference - to us.




I agree :yesnod:
And it is because we are not transcended into another dimension that it makes a difference that we be good to each other, because we know nothing, and so we are all equal in the face of the unknown, both the ignorant and the wise.


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: Plok]
    #7942001 - 01/27/08 06:51 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

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Wisdom is useful to help you lead the most enjoyable and healthy life possible. Why would you disregard it? You could also claim that you can live life without intelligence, strength, morality, and character. And you can, but where will that lead you?




It would probably lead me to death, just as having all those qualities would also lead me towards death.


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7942171 - 01/27/08 07:25 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

The more I would think about something the more I would realize that I needed to just let it happen. That 'wisdom' could be read about or discussed, attempted to be passed down and thought of as "oh ok interesting" or someone could just agree bc it sounded 'right', but it has more of an applied idea behind it. As the entire journey is what matters instead of the end result.

just live and it'll come, don't delve on anything. The more questions someone asks, the less likely they'll go out and find/dumbfound their answers. Hints are good though.


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7944421 - 01/28/08 09:33 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

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Wisdom, like all else before death, is meaningless. Both the fool and the wise man must die.

I wonder if when I am an old man looking back on my life, I will think to myself, "I have grown and increased in wisdom more than anyone who has posted in P&S before me. I have experienced a vast amount of wisdom and knowledge...

I've used my mind to understand wisdom and knowledge as well as madness and stupidity. Now I know that was simply another vain effort at grasping the ever-changing"




So true but we have to do something with all this time. You can't chase girls 24/7. Even Heff smoked a pipe and talked a little philosophy from time to time.


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7945079 - 01/28/08 12:16 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

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What does one do with wisdom?



The good thing is, that's all up to us :smile:
But without wisdom, every deed just is a weak try.
And wisdom without doing (yes ice, even the deed of talking, even it's more in the realm of reflection [ideas] than being, which is the result of doing [not talking]), is worth absolute nothing, of course.
One just can better arrive at one's goals with wisdom. It very much helps to transform personal ideals into existence, which is done with the doing :smile:
That's what I wanted to express.


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Re: Why chase wisdom? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7945096 - 01/28/08 12:21 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Wisdom is a form of understanding, attaining awareness leads to this.  But I agree that thou should not "seek" :sun:


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