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BrainChemistry
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Chomping your weed
#7941322 - 01/27/08 04:56 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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I ate a little nug of weed once, didn't really get that high. Anyone know what happens if you were to straight up eat an 1/8th? Or more? Have you tried it?
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u str8 up waste your weed
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You can not get high from eating straight weed. Cook it with something high in fat. (Peanut Butter/Butter)
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I cooked a grilled cheese sandwhich with an eighth in the center and was litterally high for two straight days. The bud has to get hot or be fryed prior to unlock the trichomes from the bud.
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TheShroomJew23 said: I cooked a grilled cheese sandwhich with an eighth in the center and was litterally high for two straight days. The bud has to get hot or be fryed prior to unlock the trichomes from the bud.
It doesn't need to be hot, heat just speeds up the process. All it needs is fat.
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Ok I just read the heat thing somewhere, I should probably mention that I used cannabutter for the butter and bud but they equaled an eigtht.
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I unno dood, I ate this weed once followed by a bowl or two followed by pizza and my skin was crawling..
maybe the weed was laced though?
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Re: Chomping your weed [Re: flavoraid]
#7941537 - 01/27/08 05:37 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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I'm pretty sure heat is the ciritical component (THC carboxylic acid must be decarboxylated to THC by heating... normally happens when you smoke it), as far as I know oil isn't necessary. On the other hand, oil helps spread the bud flavor through your food, so why not.
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So your saying you wouldn't feel anything at all from just ingesting THC straight? No matter the amount? I can't imagine that you wouldn't get any in your blood stream. I think if you ate enough you'd have to feel something. Maybe if you ate a few grams of hash it would do the trick.
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dont reccomend eating hash. made me puke, hasish on the other hand got me blazed as hell.
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BrainChemistry said: So your saying you wouldn't feel anything at all from just ingesting THC straight? No matter the amount? I can't imagine that you wouldn't get any in your blood stream. I think if you ate enough you'd have to feel something. Maybe if you ate a few grams of hash it would do the trick.
if you have pure thc then you would, but even kief isn't pure thc. it's still bound to the plant matter that our bodies aren't good at digesting.
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Shamanintraining said: You can not get high from eating straight weed. Cook it with something high in fat. (Peanut Butter/Butter)
Yes you can i have done it. Ate half a dub and got messed up. Took like 1-2 hours to hit me but it did. It was really good weed.
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BrainChemistry said: So your saying you wouldn't feel anything at all from just ingesting THC straight? No matter the amount? I can't imagine that you wouldn't get any in your blood stream. I think if you ate enough you'd have to feel something. Maybe if you ate a few grams of hash it would do the trick.
if you have pure thc then you would, but even kief isn't pure thc. it's still bound to the plant matter that our bodies aren't good at digesting.
What are you talking about? Humans digest plant matter all the time with ease. In fact, it's easier on our digestive tract than meat.
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Re: Chomping your weed [Re: ApJunkie]
#7942381 - 01/27/08 08:09 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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It has to do with materials like cellulose and other indigestibles that are in buds, you can still get some effect from eating straight buds though, depending on how well your body is able to digest it.
and yes people can digest certain types of plant matter very well, like fruit and salads and stuff, but try eating a pinecone. (don't)
your body has trouble digesting buds fully, which is why you can still get effects, but it's a wasteful method of doing it, make a damn firecracker.
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Re: Chomping your weed [Re: doitagain]
#7942794 - 01/27/08 09:22 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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Lol, marijuana and a pinecone don't share very many similarities.
Still, I see your point. It's not as easily consumed as lettuce or similar, but it certainly would not be a complete waste.
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Re: Chomping your weed [Re: ApJunkie]
#7942851 - 01/27/08 09:33 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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BrainChemistry said: So your saying you wouldn't feel anything at all from just ingesting THC straight? No matter the amount? I can't imagine that you wouldn't get any in your blood stream. I think if you ate enough you'd have to feel something. Maybe if you ate a few grams of hash it would do the trick.
if you have pure thc then you would, but even kief isn't pure thc. it's still bound to the plant matter that our bodies aren't good at digesting.
What are you talking about? Humans digest plant matter all the time with ease. In fact, it's easier on our digestive tract than meat.
that's not true at all, then why is it less effective? animals like deer digest plant matter much better so they'd get high off eating it.. you must be very light weight if you ate a dime raw and got high
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The point is not how high you get. We all know that eating your weed is not the best way to get your jollys off of it. I was just looking to discuss what it would feel like if your to eat a plate full of weed.

If you had that much ganja at your disposal, tell me you wouldn't be at least a little bit curious? A plate full....maybe with a touch of cholula?
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BrainChemistry said: So your saying you wouldn't feel anything at all from just ingesting THC straight? No matter the amount? I can't imagine that you wouldn't get any in your blood stream. I think if you ate enough you'd have to feel something. Maybe if you ate a few grams of hash it would do the trick.
if you have pure THC then you would, but even kief isn't pure THC. it's still bound to the plant matter that our bodies aren't good at digesting.
What are you talking about? Humans digest plant matter all the time with ease. In fact, it's easier on our digestive tract than meat.
that's not true at all, then why is it less effective? animals like deer digest plant matter much better so they'd get high off eating it.. you must be very light weight if you ate a dime raw and got high
Well lou, you seem a bit confused here. I'm not the one who ate the weed first off, secondly; plant matter and THC are two different things. Humans digest plant matter with practically no issues what so ever, the fact that it's less potent when eaten rather than smoked or cooked is totally irrelevant to the discussion of digestibility.
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learningtofly said: u str8 up waste your weed
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Entropymancer said: I'm pretty sure heat is the ciritical component (THC carboxylic acid must be decarboxylated to THC by heating... normally happens when you smoke it), as far as I know oil isn't necessary.
THC, if left out to "cure" or sit out for a VERY long time, naturally begins to decarboxylate.
You can eat weed that has been cured out or is old, without cooking it. It will also get you a LOT higher as well, due to the fact it is already decarboxylated.
Heating, though, ensures that ALL the THC has been decarboxylated and can be digested, so you don't just eat budz and waste half your shit
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Caribou_Lou said: that's not true at all, then why is it less effective? animals like deer digest plant matter much better so they'd get high off eating it.. you must be very light weight if you ate a dime raw and got high
Just because an animal can digest plant material better doesn't mean it can decarboxylate THC and get high. MYTH BUSTED
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Re: Chomping your weed [Re: SDP]
#7945578 - 01/28/08 02:22 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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But it can separate the thc from the plant matter, which is exactly what heating it does. This is why you need to heat it to make any edibles....
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Caribou_Lou said: But it can separate the thc from the plant matter, which is exactly what heating it does. This is why you need to heat it to make any edibles....
You do not need heat, all you need is something with fat or alcohol. Thats why when you make green drag you don't have to heat it up. Heat only makes the process go faster.
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Lol, so you had to give me a bad rating instead of just mentioning that? I completely agree with you... it's pretty impressive how well you can contain your anger.
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Caribou_Lou said: But it can separate the thc from the plant matter, which is exactly what heating it does. This is why you need to heat it to make any edibles....
You do not need heat, all you need is something with fat or alcohol. Thats why when you make green drag you don't have to heat it up. Heat only makes the process go faster.
No shit, you can't just put weed into fat haha.. there's kind of a difference between alcohol and room temperature fat. Over time the alcohol would work because it would break the bond.. but if you put weed into fat and left it there nothing would happen.
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Caribou_Lou said: But it can separate the thc from the plant matter, which is exactly what heating it does. This is why you need to heat it to make any edibles....
You do not need heat, all you need is something with fat or alcohol. Thats why when you make green drag you don't have to heat it up. Heat only makes the process go faster.
No shit, you can't just put weed into fat haha.. there's kind of a difference between alcohol and room temperature fat. Over time the alcohol would work because it would break the bond.. but if you put weed into fat and left it there nothing would happen.
Yes you can, when I lived with my parents I made my firecrackers by grinding up weed and letting it sit in the peanut butter for 2 weeks. They worked every time.
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that's retarded, firecrackers don't even smell. I find that hard to believe, if it worked at all it must have been very ineffective.
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so you're telling me you put weed in peanut better, and just stored it in a safe place for 2 weeks? I mean the heat is just a catalyst for a reaction that occurs naturally at a slower rate, and your stomach enzymes might have also catalyzed that reaction, but that would probably be incredibly inefficient.
Why would you even do that, you can cook a firecracker in 15-20 minutes, and the smell is barely distinguishable and short-lived, i've cooked them with my parents in the house while they were in another room, they've even walked in during the cooking and didn't smell it.
In the 2 weeks of waiting you have to have had at least one opportunity to cook it. You my friend, are the king of just too muchery
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Re: Chomping your weed [Re: doitagain]
#7946613 - 01/28/08 06:11 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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even firecrackers themselves are pretty inefficient, the only way I can get high off edibles is by making cannabutter because it absorbs more thc than peanut butter
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Re: Chomping your weed [Re: SDP]
#7946659 - 01/28/08 06:22 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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Do deer have the consciousness to expand even? lol
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i disagree i think if you grind the weed up enough, and spread it evenly through the peanut butter, it's fully efficient. I think the key is to make more than one so you have a higher ratio of peanut butter to weed. Of course this is all speculation, just my 2 cents. I do know what you mean though cause some firecrackers i've had certainly did not deliver.
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why are you so angry Lou? Is it really that hard to bear when someone disagrees with you?
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Re: Chomping your weed [Re: ApJunkie]
#7948410 - 01/28/08 11:15 PM (16 years, 4 days ago) |
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It has to do with THC being fat and alcohol soluble. Same thing w/fat soluble vitamins. If you don't eat fat w/vitamin E, you don't absorb it. So if you ate anything w/enough fat and ground up bud, you should get high.
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I cant speak to eating strait weed to getting you high, but i can say that it is tasty. Second heating it does help, only because it does decrease the time in which the reaction takes place, and thus how fast we can get high. The key is that both alcohol, and heated fat can store the THC crystals in a manner that our body can digest better. We can digest the plant raw. but it will likely cause the need to consume more at one time, even when you make cannibutter you use more to get high, than you would if you just smoked a bowl. Just vaporise the weed, then cook with it if you are looking to get the most out of your investment.
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