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InvisibleChronic7

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Meditation on Shrooms?
    #7939173 - 01/27/08 06:03 AM (16 years, 5 days ago)

I meditated on my trip yesterday, which started at 3am!

And it was incredible, just concentrating on my breath i realised that just breathing gets you higher than any drugs can ever get you, obviously the shrooms DO help :smile: I jsut concentrrated om breathing very deeply and after about the 3r dbreath each time i would be instantly thrown into what felt like Nirvana.

My friend said i was glowing and has a HUGE smile across my face lol

Share any experiences of mediatating on shrooms i think its the ultimate, it beats nitrous hands down


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7939199 - 01/27/08 06:30 AM (16 years, 5 days ago)

I tried to meditate several times without shrooms.No success i Just cant concentrate, maybe 5g of mushies will help. :crazy2:


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: nekrakys]
    #7939205 - 01/27/08 06:36 AM (16 years, 5 days ago)

All you gotta do is concentrate on breathing, silence and darkness help i find!


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7939206 - 01/27/08 06:37 AM (16 years, 5 days ago)

then i got sleep :grin:


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7939222 - 01/27/08 06:54 AM (16 years, 5 days ago)

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chronic777 said:
All you gotta do is concentrate on breathing, silence and darkness help i find!




you failed to mention the mushrooms... which were 95% of the reason


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: future]
    #7939670 - 01/27/08 10:51 AM (16 years, 5 days ago)

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future said:
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chronic777 said:
All you gotta do is concentrate on breathing, silence and darkness help i find!




you failed to mention the mushrooms... which were 95% of the reason




Not true. Meditation does not need mushrooms......? You can reach such states of bliss sober meditating, and thats the way it should be.

...But I definately have meditating while tripping on my to do list.


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: smoothrider267]
    #7939721 - 01/27/08 11:10 AM (16 years, 5 days ago)

try meditating for an hour in solitude surrounded by nature right before a trip. breathtaking!


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: smoothrider267]
    #7939728 - 01/27/08 11:12 AM (16 years, 5 days ago)

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smoothrider267 said:Not true. Meditation does not need mushrooms......? You can reach such states of bliss sober meditating, and thats the way it should be.




Yeah, based on your own opinion and nothing else. Are you god? Are you the ultimate judge on what "should" or "shouldn't" be?

How dare thy!


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7939888 - 01/27/08 11:51 AM (16 years, 5 days ago)

I did kundalini yoga while tripping last night on shrooms, and it was incredible. I followed it up with a meditation session and was out of my mind with bliss.


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: MOTH]
    #7940071 - 01/27/08 12:34 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Sounds awesome. I'm pretty interested in getting into that state of mind while tripping but am a rookie meditator. How many grams did you take? What type of position were you in while meditating?


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: MOTH]
    #7940122 - 01/27/08 12:42 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

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MOTH said:
I did kundalini yoga while tripping last night on shrooms, and it was incredible. I followed it up with a meditation session and was out of my mind with bliss.




could you recommend any good books on kundalini yoga?


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: BirdsIView]
    #7940139 - 01/27/08 12:45 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Man, seriously... I've had the GREATEST experiences while meditating on a trip. I have a story of one such occurrence, in fact.

I was sitting in my childhood home, in the room I grew up in, tripping on 3 hits of some wonderfully potent LSD blotter. My cousin and a few of my friends were there. We were the quintessential circle of tripping buddies at that point in time (time has split it into nothing, currently, and sadly..). We were listening to A Perfect Circle - 3 Libras, and I was sitting on the floor, becoming one with it, having amazing closed-eye visuals... I'm listening to the song right now to put myself back there...

..:) I have goosebumps.

Right at the last repetition of the chorus, after the CEV's had been building and building upon eachother throughout the whole song, the music building my visions, I saw this beautiful woman.

She was surrounded by blossoming flowers and all kinds of plants and animals were thriving in her presence, and I realized... I was having a vision of my perception of Gaia.

It was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.


"Threw you the obvious
And you flew with it on your back
A name in your recollection
Down among a million, say:
Difficult enough to feel a little bit
Disappointed, passed over.
When I've looked right through,
To see you naked and oblivious
and you don't see me

Well I threw you the obvious,
Just to see if there's more behind the
Eyes of a fallen angel,
Eyes of a tragedy.

Here I am expecting just a little bit
Too much from the wounded
But I see,
See through it all,
See through,
And see you.

So I threw you the obvious
Do you see what occurs behind the
Eyes of a fallen angel
Eyes of a tragedy

Well, oh well..

Apparently nothing.
Apparently nothing at all.
<- (This part. I had the vision at this part.)

You don't
You don't
You don't see me
You don't
You don't
You don't see me
You don't
You don't
You don't see me
You don't
You don't
You don't see me at all"
-Maynard James Keenan

I also find it crucial to meditate BEFORE the trip, to center yourself and prepare your mind for the onslaught of information it is about to ensue. I feel sometimes people go into psychotic rages because they fail to prepare themselves adequately - meditation is the number one way to prepare.


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: manyc]
    #7940635 - 01/27/08 02:47 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

I would definatelty consider last night as one of the greatest experiences ive ever had tripping and i have reached similar states of mind not tripping but thats meditating for over an hour+ on shrooms you just take a few deep breathes and your thrown into pure bliss!

The only thing is on 3.5grams of standard cubes when meditating on the pak it was making me trip SOOO hard i had to stop it was way to overwhelming, i think the key could be low doses and meditation.

I gotta get me one of those computers stephen hawking has because i always want to write down those ecstatic thoughts but cant because i dont want to break the energy


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7940791 - 01/27/08 03:10 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

I love that your on the right path, and would not burst your bubble as it were. But your result must have been your focus Chronic.

Nirvana means "without form". Concentration requires form. What you achieved was an altered state. So, being altered, it was not your true state. Meditation is meant to return you to your original state, which is "without form". This does not require an inkling of concentration. All that needs be done is to remove the false identification of your self with a particular state or form, altered or otherwise. Hallucinogens as well as meditation can be a trans-formative practice. But the practice should not be mistaken for the state. In other words, you should not mistake the map for the actual territory the map represents.
Is there no meditation now?

hope that helps


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: Fugai]
    #7940892 - 01/27/08 03:30 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

:nicekitty:


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: manyc]
    #7940971 - 01/27/08 03:45 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

manyc said:
Man, seriously... I've had the GREATEST experiences while meditating on a trip. I have a story of one such occurrence, in fact.

I was sitting in my childhood home, in the room I grew up in, tripping on 3 hits of some wonderfully potent LSD blotter. My cousin and a few of my friends were there. We were the quintessential circle of tripping buddies at that point in time (time has split it into nothing, currently, and sadly..). We were listening to A Perfect Circle - 3 Libras, and I was sitting on the floor, becoming one with it, having amazing closed-eye visuals... I'm listening to the song right now to put myself back there...

..:) I have goosebumps.

Right at the last repetition of the chorus, after the CEV's had been building and building upon eachother throughout the whole song, the music building my visions, I saw this beautiful woman.

She was surrounded by blossoming flowers and all kinds of plants and animals were thriving in her presence, and I realized... I was having a vision of my perception of Gaia.

It was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.


"Threw you the obvious
And you flew with it on your back
A name in your recollection
Down among a million, say:
Difficult enough to feel a little bit
Disappointed, passed over.
When I've looked right through,
To see you naked and oblivious
and you don't see me

Well I threw you the obvious,
Just to see if there's more behind the
Eyes of a fallen angel,
Eyes of a tragedy.

Here I am expecting just a little bit
Too much from the wounded
But I see,
See through it all,
See through,
And see you.

So I threw you the obvious
Do you see what occurs behind the
Eyes of a fallen angel
Eyes of a tragedy

Well, oh well..

Apparently nothing.
Apparently nothing at all.
<- (This part. I had the vision at this part.)

You don't
You don't
You don't see me
You don't
You don't
You don't see me
You don't
You don't
You don't see me
You don't
You don't
You don't see me at all"
-Maynard James Keenan

I also find it crucial to meditate BEFORE the trip, to center yourself and prepare your mind for the onslaught of information it is about to ensue. I feel sometimes people go into psychotic rages because they fail to prepare themselves adequately - meditation is the number one way to prepare.




sounds more like DMT to me.


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7941346 - 01/27/08 05:01 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

yes i am with the other guy who got bashed for mentioning that meditating is most effective while sober. but i have tried it before with various drugs, it is not really obvious but i think that putting extra chemicals into your body to do that gets in the way. it is expected when 99% of the people here use drugs every day.

the definition of meditation does not really conflict in anyway with using extra chemicals though:

"1. To reflect on; contemplate.
2. To plan in the mind; intend: meditated a visit to her daughter.
v.intr.
1.
a. Buddhism & Hinduism To train, calm, or empty the mind, often by achieving an altered state, as by focusing on a single object.
b. To engage in devotional contemplation, especially prayer.
2. To think or reflect, especially in a calm and deliberate manner."

then again the definition includes the names of two religions that do not use drugs to do it.

another example would be shamans in Mexico. they do not consume mushrooms to be "religious" really. They go to church for that kind of thing. it is tough for some people to swallow these concepts.


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: deranger]
    #7944049 - 01/28/08 06:40 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

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SyntheticMInd said:
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smoothrider267 said:Not true. Meditation does not need mushrooms......? You can reach such states of bliss sober meditating, and thats the way it should be.




Yeah, based on your own opinion and nothing else.  Are you god?  Are you the ultimate judge on what "should" or "shouldn't" be?

How dare thy!




I was just saying meditation is good.  I don't assume you to be tripping on shrooms everyday therefore you should work on practicing it sober... :tongue2:


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7944219 - 01/28/08 08:04 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Meditate sober, that is true discipline :smile:


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: Robo]
    #7944508 - 01/28/08 09:57 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Sober is the best way, im just letting people know that if you do it on shroomz it is almost instantly rewarding, but if anything it makes you trip SOOO much harder. I had to stop because it was way to intense, it was like id done a mega dose.


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: smoothrider267]
    #7944781 - 01/28/08 11:04 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Quote:

smoothrider267 said:
Quote:

SyntheticMInd said:
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smoothrider267 said:Not true. Meditation does not need mushrooms......? You can reach such states of bliss sober meditating, and thats the way it should be.




Yeah, based on your own opinion and nothing else.  Are you god?  Are you the ultimate judge on what "should" or "shouldn't" be?

How dare thy!




I was just saying meditation is good.  I don't assume you to be tripping on shrooms everyday therefore you should work on practicing it sober... :tongue2:




I agree as I've been meditating for 5 years.  But personally I think the combination of shrooms and meditation leads to a much more profound vision than if one were to only meditate.


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7945350 - 01/28/08 01:23 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Yes the mind can do amazing things, if thats your focus.


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: Fugai]
    #7945398 - 01/28/08 01:37 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

i just recalled something terance mckenna said once... it was something like "im not saying you shouldnt do it... what i mean is go and try it on psychedelics/mushrooms" that was about enlightening practices in some parts...
i could screw something with the quote though... ha!


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    #7946856 - 01/28/08 06:56 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: acommunistspy]
    #7948001 - 01/28/08 09:46 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

i tried this, and i kept getting distracted by all the weird sounds i would hear. Weird undulations and tones. The walls were sure breathing that day.


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: acommunistspy]
    #7948014 - 01/28/08 09:49 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Iv been really interested in meditating, but when I sit and try to concentrate, I find it really hard to keep my mind clear. Thoughts seem to run in and out of my head no matter how hard I try. Whats the best way for me to try to meditate? What exactly does meditation do? Im doing this all sober, im trying to stay clean so I can find a job.


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: StonedGnome]
    #7948039 - 01/28/08 09:53 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Quote:

StonedGnome said:
Iv been really interested in meditating, but when I sit and try to concentrate, I find it really hard to keep my mind clear. Thoughts seem to run in and out of my head no matter how hard I try. Whats the best way for me to try to meditate? What exactly does meditation do? Im doing this all sober, im trying to stay clean so I can find a job.




Maybe try going for a jog before you meditate and stretching, or make sure you're not slouching too much. Basically meditation is used to clear your mind of all thoughts and bring your focus into the body and your surroundings in the present. Once you start making progress you'll realize how chaotic and disruptive your mind usually is and how much joy is available to you just by quieting the mind.

Also, you shouldn't have to "try hard". Meditation is for relieving stress, so if you're doing anything that is tensing up your mind or body then you aren't meditating, you are doing something else. Just focus on breath that expands your body, relax all your muscles and then focus inwards and feel the energy in your body and around your body.


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: StonedGnome]
    #7948140 - 01/28/08 10:13 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Stonedgnome - You cannot clear your mind. Nor can you stop thoughts from arising. Thoughts arise, and that IS your mind. If you try to stop thoughts from arising, you will be using your mind to do so.
But that is not your self, you are not mind, you have a mind.
To be constructive though, I will say please do try.
Meditation is at its core inquiry.
It is meant to return you to your original state, which is without-mind and without-form. Which is not to say you do not have a mind or form, simply that what you are is neither.
Meditation will remove the obstacles to knowledge of your true self, which will lead you to contentment and wisdom.
Ask yourself, "to whom are these thoughts arising"
I will relate a story from Zen.
A man was sitting under a waterfall. A Master happened to walk by and asked the man "What are you doing?" The man answered "Contemplating mind". To that the Master asked "Who is contemplating, and what is the mind that is contemplated". The man stood and bowed to the master.
Hope that helps you.
I would say also to others that any state you happen to achieve either through hallucinogens or meditation for that matter, is itself only and "altered" state and therefor not permanent or your true state of Being.


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: Fugai]
    #7948175 - 01/28/08 10:22 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

That's cool chronic, I did 4Gs this past saturday-fucking amazing time as well! I saw blue spades and red hearts everywhere. It was way cool. I was so fucked up, I didn't even know if my eyes were opened or closed.

Too bad my girl doesn't like to trip in high doses- anything above 2.0Gs for her- she's a lightweight.


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Re: Meditation on Shrooms? [Re: StonedGnome]
    #7949360 - 01/29/08 07:27 AM (16 years, 3 days ago)

Quote:

StonedGnome said:
Iv been really interested in meditating, but when I sit and try to concentrate, I find it really hard to keep my mind clear. Thoughts seem to run in and out of my head no matter how hard I try. Whats the best way for me to try to meditate? What exactly does meditation do? Im doing this all sober, im trying to stay clean so I can find a job.




The best way is to just concentrate on breathing...deep breathes going into your lungs, holding it in comfortably, then breathing far out....

Also remember the simple fact that ANYONE can attain Nirvana (which is indescribable so only you will know if you have felt it)

People generally dont like to see others reach such heights so people will disbeleive you, and try and tell you what you felt was not Nirvana but you are the only person who needs to beleive. Remember anyone can get there, everyone is already there, you cannot describe it, all you need to do is remember and be free from ALL attachment


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