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CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus
    #7936787 - 01/26/08 07:04 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

ive found some mushrooms that look like Gymnopilus sapineus
and i require an ID.

INFO:

Habitat: On cow patty under tree with meny small leaves decaying around and ontop the mushrooms

Gills: gill color is whitish orange and r open.

Stem: whitish orange with hallow inside

Cap: Orange-ish about 5cm in width

Spore print color: havent taken yet

Location: CA in a cowfield

The mushrooms in pics weight in at 78.2 grams (wet)

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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: TheThizzle]
    #7936889 - 01/26/08 07:24 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

Those are Lactarius. They are terrestrial (usually) and grow mycorrhizal. What kind of trees was it growing near?

Good job on the ID request!


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: CureCat]
    #7936951 - 01/26/08 07:35 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

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Those are Lactarius. They are terrestrial (usually) and grow mycorrhizal. What kind of trees was it growing near?

Good job on the ID request!




i dont remeber wat type of tree it was... it was a small tree tho.. anyways... are these hallucinogenic?


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: TheThizzle]
    #7936999 - 01/26/08 07:45 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

Not at all.


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: CureCat]
    #7937011 - 01/26/08 07:47 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

Those leaves look like oak. It was probably growing with oak.


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: CureCat]
    #7937017 - 01/26/08 07:48 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

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Not at all.




thats disapointing... cause i found them in hope they were.

are they editable atleast?

(also... when i bit a small part of the cap, it taisted bitter but burned my mouth too. *is that normal*)


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: TheThizzle]
    #7937086 - 01/26/08 08:00 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

>thats disapointing... cause i found them in hope they were.

Well, if you're gonna hunt mushrooms, you should stop expecting a lot of mushrooms to be active, because the great majority are not active.  Or, get used to being disappointed a LOT.


>(also... when i bit a small part of the cap, it taisted bitter but burned
>my mouth too. *is that normal*)

Yes.  It means don't eat it.  :wink:

You just tasted it, and spit it out right?  If you swallowed some, you will be fine, but DO NOT do it again with any other mushrooms until you can identify them properly.  You can taste mushrooms (and spit them out), even the poisonous ones, but do not swallow.

That burning is the reason I won't taste test Russula nor Lactarius.


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: CureCat]
    #7937109 - 01/26/08 08:04 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

yes i spit it out.

i guess that sucks tho... i was hoping they were hallucinogenic so i could take tomarrow. guess ill just go find other 1s...

BUT i didnt clean the mushroom when i first took a small peice.. so possiblly the burning was from somthing on the mushroom.


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: TheThizzle]
    #7937136 - 01/26/08 08:10 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

Maybe do a little more research. Those mushrooms don't look anything like Gymnopilus, so make sure you know what you're looking for, so you don't get so bummed. Mushroom hunting is not always easy! Also, Gymnopilus grow on wood, not out of dirt and leaves.


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: CureCat]
    #7937150 - 01/26/08 08:13 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

I actually have some fresh Gymnopilus sapineus or a species very similar sitting on my desk right now, 6 inches from my hand... I wouldn't eat them.


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: CureCat]
    #7937215 - 01/26/08 08:27 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

thanks for the ID.

also can u take a picture of the 1s u got?\

i wonder how simaler mine r to yours


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: TheThizzle]
    #7937225 - 01/26/08 08:29 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)



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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: CureCat]
    #7937247 - 01/26/08 08:34 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

thanks again.

im a go hunting again tomarrow but im a take my laptop with me so i can get all info with me while i hunt. just hope its sunny tommarrow like it was today...


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: TheThizzle]
    #7937287 - 01/26/08 08:42 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

Uhh, how are you gonna get internet access in the woods? Just hope someone has an insecure wireless connection in the area??


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: CureCat]
    #7937332 - 01/26/08 08:52 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

oo yeah... ill download the info. i got pictures of all types of mushroom that grow in my area and info from wikipedia on my computor right now.

but i think the wireless from my house might reach the cowfields where im a be at. sence only like 2-3 blocks away... but maybe...

also would a sporeprint or knowlage on the bruising make any difrents in an ID?


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: TheThizzle]
    #7937366 - 01/26/08 08:58 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

G. sapineus grows from wood of conifers and hardwood, and on sawdust. There is also a G. subsapineus. Other look a likes might be G. penetrans and G. flavidellus. And then there are probably 200+ other Gymnopilus species found throughout the world you might want to research also (Gymno's are not all to easy to identify). Pholiota mushrooms are also commonly mistaken for Gymnopilus also, and just a guess there are probably hundreds of Pholiota species also.

Also, from my memory, I do not believe G. sapineus is even neurotropic.

And TheThizzle, just a honest observation, you should not be eating any wild mushrooms you find yet. Study them every day for another 1-3 years and then think about cautiously consuming something you find.


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7937404 - 01/26/08 09:04 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

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G. sapineus grows from wood of conifers and hardwood, and on sawdust. There is also a G. subsapineus. Other look a likes might be G. penetrans and G. flavidellus. And then there are probably 200+ other Gymnopilus species found throughout the world you might want to research also (Gymno's are not all to easy to identify). Pholiota mushrooms are also commonly mistaken for Gymnopilus also, and just a guess there are probably hundreds of Pholiota species also.

Also, from my memory, I do not believe G. sapineus is even neurotropic.

And TheThizzle, just a honest observation, you should not be eating any wild mushrooms you find yet. Study them every day for another 1-3 years and then think about cautiously consuming something you find.




well i taisted to test it.
but i got (very) bad pictures to show them acctully growing but i desided to take another trip over there tommarrow for better picture and to check the field for other shrooms.. -.-


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7937406 - 01/26/08 09:04 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

Thizzle, like I said, they do NOT grow on cow manure.  They grow on wood.
I think you need to find out which active species grow in your area, what habitat they prefer, and what they look like.


>Also, from my memory, I do not believe G. sapineus is even neurotropic.

That was my recollection as well, however, I already looked it up, and  a few sources say that they do contain psilocybin.  :ohwell:


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Re: CA ID - possible Gymnopilus sapineus [Re: TheThizzle]
    #7972777 - 02/03/08 12:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sapineus are not active as far as im concerned. Ive found quite a few specimens over the past few years, most differing in location and substrate type (i.e. degradation level of the wood, type of wood, ect...) None were even remotely active. I also noticed that they are only slightly bitter compared to Specs, and that their odor is far less fragrant. Blah. Im so jealous of all you WC people! the season is long over here in the north east!
Mr. Thizzle, Its best to be very patient regarding mushroom hunting. Its going to be hard for your eyes to understand what they are looking for until you actually stumble upon something. Most of what you find will not be active, and some of what you find is going to be poisonous. Rather than heading out with your laptop, I'd recommend picking up a few books and heading out with them; look up EVERYTHING you find...get more into the mushroom hunting hobby rather than the "go out and look for drugs" aspect of it. Its a lot more fulfilling in the long run. Dont mean to be preaching, just want to be helpful.


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