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Arp
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something
#7935572 - 01/26/08 02:59 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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there is something important happening right now. the meaning of life is the transcendence through drugs to a higher state of consciousness. can anyone else feel it?
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g00ru
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Re: something [Re: Arp]
#7935598 - 01/26/08 03:04 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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i like pie more than cake.
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Re: something [Re: g00ru]
#7935657 - 01/26/08 03:12 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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I feel my insides churning...
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Arp
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Re: something [Re: Crasher]
#7935811 - 01/26/08 03:39 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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dxm and 17g mushrooms.because of the tolerance.i'm trying to stay away from ignitions
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Atheist
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Re: something [Re: Arp]
#7935870 - 01/26/08 03:51 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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Arp said: there is something important happening right now. the meaning of life is the transcendence through drugs to a higher state of consciousness. can anyone else feel it?
how??
what about all the people that dont do drugs?
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FarFromHere
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Re: something [Re: Atheist]
#7935882 - 01/26/08 03:52 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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It's about freeing your mind....
Not drugs.
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seems like it's building up to something.
the blocks are being stacked to an un-imaginable height, wonder when they'll topple..
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Re: something [Re: enesi]
#7936084 - 01/26/08 04:34 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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Nope, I can't feel shit.
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Atheist
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Re: something [Re: Aopocetx]
#7936096 - 01/26/08 04:37 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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me neither
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Siekoaktiv
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Re: something [Re: Crasher]
#7937281 - 01/26/08 08:41 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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Crasher said: I feel my insides churning...
I felt like that earlier today. Then I took a massive shit...
-------------------- I'm in need of a sterile sporeprint, if anyone wants to do a trade for some seeds or something, or maybe just for free if you have a lot of them............. i'd really appreciate it NuggetPorch said - "YES! YES!!!! Coaster its Faint, but its fucking there YOU see it!!! Perhaps we are both on some sort of unusual wave length associated with unusual neuro-transmitters, mind expansion white light, or something we can not even begin to understand or fathom to conceive because it is a gift of insight or a curse given to us by powers beyond our control, something we are not meant to know."
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Overclock22
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Re: something [Re: enesi]
#7937365 - 01/26/08 08:58 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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enesi said: seems like it's building up to something.
the blocks are being stacked to an un-imaginable height, wonder when they'll topple..
why do they need to topple
-------------------- He did not laugh as his eyes stopped in awareness of the earth around him. His face was like a law of nature-a thing one could not question, alter or implore. It had high cheekbones over gaunt, hollow cheeks; gray eyes, cold and steady; a contemptuous mouth, shut tight, the mouth of an executioner or a saint. If you wake up at a different time in a different place, can you wake up a different person? Cf. A.C. Doyle "I'll rise above this, you can't keep me down, for I am Divine, and I know it all too well."
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Re: something [Re: Arp]
#7937533 - 01/26/08 09:27 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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in some ancient cultures initiation into the transcendental realms of existence happened through the dark room. selected individuals would live in a cave in complete darkness for months, sometimes years. if you look around the internet you can find testimonials of these experience and how much of a profound impact they have on ones life and their understanding of the self and consciousness.
so psychedelics aren't all there is to it!
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Re: something [Re: deranger]
#7937868 - 01/26/08 10:20 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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yea! pumpkin pie.
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Re: something [Re: THEBats]
#7939125 - 01/27/08 04:58 AM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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wow, what an impressive collection of sociological buzzwords.
can anyone provide some tangible examples of the type of knowledge they've achieved through narcotics....or just vague, generalized cliched statements that amount to nothing
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if you've been "there".. you'd know
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Re: something [Re: future]
#7939268 - 01/27/08 07:41 AM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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you know people like you are exactly why druggies are not taken seriously by large segments of the academic and intellectual community.
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Hopi
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And why should they be? Indeed, do they even want to? These types of experiences are based on something more metaphysical and spiritual than chemicals or Freudian psychology. It doesn't need to be "accepted" or "taken seriously" by so-called academics and intellectuals. Like future said - If you've been there, you'd know.
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Re: something [Re: Hopi]
#7939451 - 01/27/08 09:33 AM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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i have been there...and as someone who studies philosophy, i have to ask....do you even know what metaphysical means?
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Overclock22
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I think defining metaphysical in short is difficult but i guess its something that we cant understand because its beyond our scope but attempt to anyway.
So why does the drug and narcotic section of our society need to be understood by the intellectual?
-------------------- He did not laugh as his eyes stopped in awareness of the earth around him. His face was like a law of nature-a thing one could not question, alter or implore. It had high cheekbones over gaunt, hollow cheeks; gray eyes, cold and steady; a contemptuous mouth, shut tight, the mouth of an executioner or a saint. If you wake up at a different time in a different place, can you wake up a different person? Cf. A.C. Doyle "I'll rise above this, you can't keep me down, for I am Divine, and I know it all too well."
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TheNewLeft
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look, it wasn't my intention to come off sounding so entitled or arrogant.
the truth us, i do believe people can use narcotics to achieve states of mind that can provide knowledge we wouldn't otherwise have
but just throwing around sociological buzzwords doesn't reflect well on our community as a whole.
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Hopi
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I understand metaphysical as something above the physical - unexplainable by any conventional means, but felt, or though about, or something like that. I get that this will come off as confused and that I don't understand what I'm arguing about... But like I said, I feel it - can't really explain it. That's just my take on it, and I bet everyone has a different definition of it. Who cares, though, really? It's just another sound, another barrier to true communication.
About those sociological buzzwords... It might not reflect well on our community, but only for those who haven't opened their minds to it. If someone someone isn't open-minded enough, then he won't really like "us" anyway. If someone is, then they will disregard it and continue reading, being interested, interacting with "us" and so on.
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manyc
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TheNewLeft said: wow, what an impressive collection of sociological buzzwords.
can anyone provide some tangible examples of the type of knowledge they've achieved through narcotics....or just vague, generalized cliched statements that amount to nothing
People don't usually gain other-worldly knowledge through the use of narcotics, my friend. When one abuses things like opium or alcohol, ACTUAL NARCOTICS, the only thing they usually gain is a sense of euphoria and a dulling of the senses... and an aching for more.
How can one possibly provide a tangible example of something so intangible as the knowledge that can be attained from the use of ENTHEOGENS? That request illustrates, to me, your lack of understanding concerning the nature of entheogenic transcendance.
As for when the piece will tumble away... it's not a matter of if, but when.
The bigger they are the harder they fall.
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Re: something [Re: manyc]
#7940273 - 01/27/08 01:11 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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haha, i noticed he said narcotics also.
I've gained so much knowledge and understanding from my use of lortabs yo'!
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TheNewLeft said: wow, what an impressive collection of sociological buzzwords.
can anyone provide some tangible examples of the type of knowledge they've achieved through narcotics....or just vague, generalized cliched statements that amount to nothing
Tangible? How's this for tangible. Before I tried psychadelics I was a constantly depressed individual, trying to pacify my feelings of inadequacy and anxiety by drowning myself in a pool of alcohol almost every night, and if not that, a mound of cocaine. I was a chain smoker, angry, and a generally miserable mysanthropic mess.
After one particularly strong psychadelic experience that caused my ego to completely break down and caused me to step back and see my life as an observer, not as a receptacle for stimuli, simply reacting to my outside world, emotions, and unknown motivations, I was able to quit smoking, quit coke, moderate my drinking to safe levels, love humanity for basically what it is, find the God in my own self, and discover previously unobtainable levels of peace, acceptance of myself and the finite nature of life, and happiness. I'm a better person 100 times over because of psychadelics and I believe they could change the world for the better as long as we keep them in context and don't alienate skeptics by resorting to outlandish or extremist behavior (i.e. hippie protests, etc.). How's that for a tangible example of knowledge?
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manyc
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That was beautiful. I was also caught in the undertow of depression before I introduced myself to LSD. From there I've done 2C-I, mushrooms, and Salvia, but LSD will always be the one that broke my cherry.
The very next day after my first trip, I felt like I had been born again, and had a newfound sense of living. Smells were new... sounds were new... it was a lifesaver.
Thanks LSD!
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Why would you post in the psychedelic experience about 'narcotics?' The only people I hear use that word are cops...
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yea, im a cop!
narcotics can be a term that refers specifically to painkillers....but it is also used as a term to describe all drugs in general.
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mecreateme
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I understand this, but you gotta look at your surroundings here. We go a little more in depth than just a blanket term for drugs here. This is the Psychedelic Experience forum after all. IMO narcotic also has bad connotations.
I knew you were a cop!
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To quote wiki
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Many law enforcement officials in the United States inaccurately use the word "narcotic" to refer to any illegal drug or any unlawfully possessed drug. An example is referring to cannabis as a narcotic. Because the term is often used broadly, inaccurately or pejoratively outside medical contexts, most medical professionals prefer the more precise term opioid, which refers to natural, semi-synthetic and synthetic substances that behave pharmacologically like morphine, the primary active constituent of natural opium poppy.
mushrooms, peyote, DMT, and other natural substances aren't narcotics.
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Re: something [Re: manyc]
#7941423 - 01/27/08 05:18 PM (16 years, 5 days ago) |
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not necessarily gaining enlightenment from entheogens, but seeing things from a different perspective, to me, realizing how simple and small you are in a great and infinite place, but simple enough to see that you're just a simple floating piece in a great scheme, that you come and go, an arising wave that disappears.
you'd never gain enlightenment from an entheogen, but to me, you'd never GAIN enlightenment, it's not such a TASK to gain from SOMETHING, it could be anything, to me it's losing something that was accumatively placed, and just seeing how it's really happening, not gaining, but losing what you've gained to see the simple ungaining nature of things. the only task, is to get rid of all that shit, if you've accumalate too much.
from a drug? why not? from a book, or a piece of paper? if you just need to see the correct perspective, could be. it could be a pen, on your floor, but anyway the main thing is, no, if your using something to get rid of someTHING, than no overall you can see from that perspective a hundred times and not wash away all the crap you've developed into your perspective, but not permanently, to me acid or cactus or shrooms or angel dust or whatever is just going to displace you to see that you don't need that, or this, or whatever. when you place that as being what takes you somewhere, altogether, your putting back that thinking that places some thing or thought or idea or feeling into everything, which to me is what takes it away in the first place. it's just a perspective, but coming and going so easy with such subtly as much as a cloud that was there or a wave that was there or a breeze, since it can come and go and be back again, it seems so easy to think it's always there, and feel it should be there, and become illusioned and shit, but it is like anything it just disappears. Acid sure can be fun though... and make you think of a lot of shit also.
peace
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Quote:
Seraph in Blue said:
Tangible? How's this for tangible. Before I tried psychadelics I was a constantly depressed individual, trying to pacify my feelings of inadequacy and anxiety by drowning myself in a pool of alcohol almost every night, and if not that, a mound of cocaine. I was a chain smoker, angry, and a generally miserable mysanthropic mess.
After one particularly strong psychadelic experience that caused my ego to completely break down and caused me to step back and see my life as an observer, not as a receptacle for stimuli, simply reacting to my outside world, emotions, and unknown motivations, I was able to quit smoking, quit coke, moderate my drinking to safe levels, love humanity for basically what it is, find the God in my own self, and discover previously unobtainable levels of peace, acceptance of myself and the finite nature of life, and happiness. I'm a better person 100 times over because of psychadelics and I believe they could change the world for the better as long as we keep them in context and don't alienate skeptics by resorting to outlandish or extremist behavior (i.e. hippie protests, etc.). How's that for a tangible example of knowledge?
That was wonderful.
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