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Veritas

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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7934981 - 01/26/08 01:05 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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He drew that last year when he was 6. He spent over 2 hours on it, and was frustrated that the end result did not exactly represent the vision he had in his mind. He's a trippy kid!
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: Lion]
#7934984 - 01/26/08 01:06 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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I keep having dreams about Seinfeld, it's very strange. I guess that's what happens when you've seen every episode.. Seinfeld now enjoys a parallel existence in my brain.
edit: I like this picture a lot simply because it expresses very well a common experience on psychedelics
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7934991 - 01/26/08 01:07 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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Here's another one I LOVE. It's rather surreal than psychedelic, but here goes:
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   All this time I've loved you And never known your face All this time I've missed you And searched this human race Here is true peace Here my heart knows calm Safe in your soul Bathed in your sighs
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7935031 - 01/26/08 01:13 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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psychedelic art seems to try and present the plastic ideal of the psychedelic experience, the image representation which attempts to match reality
while surrealism seems to represent the inner logic and psychology of a trip, you can even see a kind of narrative in the pictures
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7935098 - 01/26/08 01:24 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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EternalCowabunga said: I keep having dreams about Seinfeld, it's very strange. I guess that's what happens when you've seen every episode.. Seinfeld now enjoys a parallel existence in my brain.
The cat RAAAARRR is out of the bag!
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: Lion]
#7935109 - 01/26/08 01:27 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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LOL..
we were filming a movie together. i won't say what kind of movie, but it was hot.
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: NiamhNyx]
#7935161 - 01/26/08 01:37 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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NiamhNyx said: I definitly agree that there is a lot of great psychedelic art. Just like there is a lot of great psychedelic music (six organs of admittance) despite the fact that there is shit psychedelic music (most psy trance).
Yeah well... I think Six Organs of Admittance, like most "indie rock", is a fucking joke. Boring, pretentious shit that relies on being "not mainstream" to sell records. Fuck that pussy shit!
I don't even consider Psytrance to be music. It's more like a catalyst to some higher state of liberated weirdness, and is more like a digital drug (see frop), getting you to a land of Tibetan holy men and Yetis, than it is like a Beatles song.
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I know that "good" and "bad" are subjective value judgements and all that I still firmly stand behind my judgement that there is such a thing as art that just sucks, whether or not people like it.
Wait, what?
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
#7935197 - 01/26/08 01:46 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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there can be an objective basis for whether a piece of art is good or bad but it really means nothing to say something sucks unless you can give an educated reason why based on a philosophical knowledge of aesthetics
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: Veritas]
#7935208 - 01/26/08 01:47 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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Veritas said: He drew that last year when he was 6. He spent over 2 hours on it, and was frustrated that the end result did not exactly represent the vision he had in his mind. He's a trippy kid!
sounds like a cool kid
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7935251 - 01/26/08 01:56 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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Koolosity or Suckation?



Shmoopy originals
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
#7935253 - 01/26/08 01:56 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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I'm not gonna try and convince you to like Six Organs, but thier music is undeniably sincere. I think it's funny when people call anything groundbreaking and intellectual that they don't 'get' pretentious, no matter how honest and humble it is. And it definitly isn't 'indie rock.'
The difference between experimental psychedelic folk and something like psytrance, in my opinion, is that the former is intellectual, complex and boundary pushing while the latter is silly, derivative and relies on cheap and insulting manipulations to create its "psychedelic" effect. When I listen to it, I feel insulted. If you wanna talk about something that's a "fucking joke," how about the assertion that psytrance can bring you to a place in consciousness anywhere near what a "Tibetan Holy Man" experiences?
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Me: I know that "good" and "bad" are subjective value judgements and all that I still firmly stand behind my judgement that there is such a thing as art that just sucks, whether or not people like it.
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MushMan: Wait, what?
I like McDonald's, but that doesn't mean it's good food.
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: Veritas]
#7935260 - 01/26/08 01:58 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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Veritas said: Here's one by my son:

It reminds me of images I've seen and felt on salvia.
That is really cool! It's beautiful. I'd love it just as much if it was made by an adult, but the fact that it was a 6 year old kid makes it that much more impressive.
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#7935276 - 01/26/08 02:00 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said:

I have a T-shirt like this.
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Veritas

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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: NiamhNyx]
#7935288 - 01/26/08 02:03 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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That is really cool! It's beautiful. I'd love it just as much if it was made by an adult, but the fact that it was a 6 year old kid makes it that much more impressive.
Yes, I agree. In the original, the small "beads" of color are the size of grains of rice. His heartfelt effort to express a complex & highly-detailed vision was obvious.
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: Veritas]
#7935298 - 01/26/08 02:04 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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*Balloon totally deflated* 
When are you going to help your son put up his own website and claim that ancient spirits are guiding his hand in painting energy fields?
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#7935307 - 01/26/08 02:06 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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Well, now, that would be NEVER.
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: Veritas]
#7935316 - 01/26/08 02:09 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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Seems you learned very little in your time here.
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: Veritas]
#7935331 - 01/26/08 02:12 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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*jots down some bullshit ahh... Website, ancient spirits, energy fields... Check, check, and check
$Never say never this is forever stay clever$
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: backfromthedead]
#7935380 - 01/26/08 02:24 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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Oh... Because THEY ARE TOXIC and by them I mean the blue ones. Red is bread. Spread. Ouch my head.
Everything sucks. Just a little. The damage done is not fun. Run. Spun
I'm sure they try their hardest. Like Wooooaaaa man, trippy.
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Re: why does most 'psychedelic' art suck so much? [Re: backfromthedead]
#7935390 - 01/26/08 02:25 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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See V? Not everyone is such a slow learner. Good job, BFTD.
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