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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: igwna]
    #7944239 - 01/28/08 08:16 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Well, if our internal clock was twenty-hours and eight minutes, then that sounds like a pretty exact number, and all I did was point out that what he was referring to did not relate exactly with what you stated. Anyways, it is regardless because different people have different internal clocks, not all of them match with that of others, and not all of them correspond with the earth's revolutions. :wink:


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7944250 - 01/28/08 08:24 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

what is the OPPOSITE of time?

There is no opposite of time. Not all things have opposites.

What's the opposite of green?


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: Diploid]
    #7944257 - 01/28/08 08:27 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

The opposite of time is Hertz.  And the opposite of green is brown.  :cool:


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: Diploid]
    #7944489 - 01/28/08 09:51 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

That's really, really brief.

Not compared to this.

http://www.supanet.com/media/00/05/58/large_Photo6001461.jpg


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: Droz]
    #7944506 - 01/28/08 09:55 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

The more I ponder time, the more I conclude time is related to energy, like a fuel.

Maybe energy is composed of time.

What Is Time?


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: pattern]
    #7944509 - 01/28/08 09:57 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Time can be measured.

You can study the decay of human life and other animals.

What needs to be done is longer life research. Edit the brain or edit the body through genetic alterations.

Gotta run!

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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: Icelander]
    #7944769 - 01/28/08 11:01 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

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So yeah boys and girls, no more talky about anything thats not fact! Stick to the rules of the classroom! :eek:

You don't have to stick to the facts here. It would however be mature if you didn't whine when people challenged your non-facts.:hissyfit:




It was more of a laugh at those authoritative individuals who order people around and like to sound like the teacher of the classroom.  Doesn't make up for good philosophical chat if you ask me.


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And how exactly do you know we aren't "realizing" everything all along here? Like our ability to think mathematically and conceptually? These are the realizations of our humanness as much as any journey to our "roots", whatever that means.




Self-realization is not about being identified with our conditioning imo.  Mathematics and concept are of our creation, not of what was before our creation.  Yes we can come up with realizations that have to do with math, but that is a different subject.


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I think a study in how the human brain operates would be more revealing as to how we experience time.




And I think experience would lead to a better understanding.  I guess this is where we part.


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: DieCommie]
    #7944775 - 01/28/08 11:02 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

If by opposite you mean taking the inner product with respect to the orthonormal Hilbert space basis functions and the function, multiplied by the basis function and integrating over all time to get a function expressed in the frequency domain, then Id agree


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: deranger]
    #7945030 - 01/28/08 12:06 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

It was more of a laugh

I saw no laughing emoticon. I think you were whining.:hissyfit:


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: Diploid]
    #7945212 - 01/28/08 12:50 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

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Diploid said:
what is the OPPOSITE of time?

There is no opposite of time. Not all things have opposites.

What's the opposite of green?




i never said that it had an opposite nor inferred that..

the opposite of green is red.



it depends on which medium you are considering when comparing the opposite.

stopping to ponder and i think that the opposite of green would be the absence of green or anti-green.  think of colorblindness, they see the opposite of green.  but green is a color and color is a "byproduct on the spectrum of light" so the opposite of green would be the absence of light. at least that's my thoughts and i'm sticking to it.

i'm not against you diploid, i agree with what you're saying i really meant it to try to rephrase the person that posted before me's question and to possibly spark a little speculation.

you say 'not all things have opposites' well you would have to reason time as a thing in order for it to have an opposite.  i dont feel it is a 'thing' but more of a principle or a concept in which it would not have an opposite. i was just interested in what responses would be to that question is all.  so i think we are in agreement at least for different reasons :tongue:



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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: Diploid]
    #7945264 - 01/28/08 01:05 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

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Diploid said:
what is the OPPOSITE of time?

There is no opposite of time. Not all things have opposites.

What's the opposite of green?



Not so true :wink:
We can't imagine an opposite of time, but it could be a neat concept, called anti-time :smile:
Just because we don't know or can't imagine it yet, doesn't strictly imply that it does not exist. Perhaps it's inherent around us all the 'time' and we just aren't able to identify it.

The opposite of green is just quite a question of definition. To what should the opposite result to ? Black ? White ? Grey ? In a composite or a complomentary way ? Let's just take their frequencies and make a definition :smile:

Just playing :heart:


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: DimensionX]
    #7945450 - 01/28/08 01:53 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

DimensionX -
Because our Being is temporal, awareness seems to be linear. This, and the very fact that prehension requires determinability, makes events seem to unfold in a linear progression. This is not to say that there is not an "unfolding". But that there is only this " unfolding event" not unfolding events. In-fact it is this prehencive faculty that causes the appearance of a "gap" in events. But in essence there is no gap, because even in a linear progression each event is causal and can be divided into smaller event ad infinitum.
Does that answer your question? I ask because I'm not sure myself, my thoughts are often so convoluted. I appreciate you at least acknowledging my summation. I think your the only one who actually read it. Everyone else seems to be having some side conversation about how we measure time, not what time is itself.

Also for everyone who reads this, I am aware prehencive is not an actual term, but it does follow correct grammatical form and is easily understood in its context. So lets not have nit-picking over dialectic please


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: Fugai]
    #7945495 - 01/28/08 02:02 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

big words.

small post count.

:macdre:


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: Fugai]
    #7945511 - 01/28/08 02:05 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Time is a tool that people argue way too much about. Its kind of like a screwdriver, the longer we have it, the more we argue about it's true purpose, origin, and whether or not it has any true definition.


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7945521 - 01/28/08 02:08 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

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drkrobotnik said:
big words.

small post count.

:macdre:




Unlike some with nothing to say yet post away.


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: justamonkey]
    #7945522 - 01/28/08 02:09 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

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justamonkey said:
Time is a tool that people argue way too much about. Its kind of like a screwdriver, the longer we have it, the more we argue about it's true purpose, origin, and whether or not it has any true definition.




Why bring alcohol into this?:tongue:


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7945549 - 01/28/08 02:15 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

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drkrobotnik said:
big words.

small post count.

:macdre:




I don't really see how that's relevant to anything. Post Count? The odometer of energy wasted in futile attempt to change a large number of total stranger's minds? C'mon, you might as well tell me my opinion doesn't count because its not the same as yours. :rolleyes:

One of these days someone's going to realize that Time, like Big, Little, Fat, Small, Green and Brown, is relative to the observer, and so is only a label, an agreement for the situation at hand.

What are we all agreeing on? Well, if you want the definition of time (which is all time can be) then time is a measurement of duration. Someone decided to wait a given interval and call that a 'second' and then make sixty of those a 'minute' and so on.

Time, essentially, is the neat division of the constant 'Now' that is perception into a few seconds ago and a few seconds from 'Now' and so on. Essentially, time is a giant ruler that is sliding under you're feet, and you're not moving, because you will never be able to perceive anything except for right 'Now'

In a sense, time is a waste of itself.

Tear the above apart, I can't explain it really if the above doesn't work, try subjecting yourself to near death experiences repeatedly, at worst you'll die and find out what everyone's so curious about.


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: Icelander]
    #7945596 - 01/28/08 02:26 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

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Icelander said:
Quote:

justamonkey said:
Time is a tool that people argue way too much about. Its kind of like a screwdriver, the longer we have it, the more we argue about it's true purpose, origin, and whether or not it has any true definition.




Why bring alcohol into this?:tongue:




..the screwdriver, which tastes like orange juice but is considerably more potent, is believed to have originated with American oil workers in Iran who drank vodka and orange juice, stirring it with screwdrivers they carried attached to their fatigue pants by loops

Alcohol is a good way to measure time!


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[quote]We don't need anyone to teach us sorcery, because there is really nothing to learn. What we need is a teacher to convince us that there is incalculable power at our fingertips. What a strange paradox! Every warrior on the path of knowledge thinks, at one time or another, that he's learning sorcery, but all he's doing is allowing himself to be convinced of the power hidden in his being, and that he can reach it. [/quote]-Carlos Casteneda


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: justamonkey]
    #7945611 - 01/28/08 02:29 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

smart ass

(I like it:lol:)


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Re: What exactly is TIME? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7945634 - 01/28/08 02:34 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

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Well, if our internal clock was twenty-hours and eight minutes, then that sounds like a pretty exact number, and all I did was point out that what he was referring to did not relate exactly with what you stated. Anyways, it is regardless because different people have different internal clocks, not all of them match with that of others, and not all of them correspond with the earth's revolutions. :wink:




yes twenty-hours and eight minutes does sound pretty exact but he didnt really sound too sure of it. so i was going out on a guess that he meant the exact number of hours in a day (because twenty hours is pretty close to 24). and if our natural internal clock is what he says, then i would say it does matter, at least a little.

meaning they could be naturally 23 hours and however many minutes you said, fifty-six? i can't remember. i have done no research and have only really just been speculating. throwing out idea's.
philosophizing if you will.


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