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Common sense for the average home cultivator (100% sterile print without a professional lab) *DELETED*
    #7933600 - 01/26/08 02:53 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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Re: Common sense for the average home cultivator (100% sterile print without a professional lab) [Re: Pr0_X]
    #7933603 - 01/26/08 02:56 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

I wouldn't say a home lab will be 100% but you can make it close enough tha it doesn't matter. As long as the myc is faster than the mold you are straight


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Re: Common sense for the average home cultivator (100% sterile print without a professional lab) [Re: rizingfire]
    #7933638 - 01/26/08 03:17 AM (16 years, 6 days ago)

You don't understand...

That jar you see 75% colonized had a entire print scraped off into it (inside a glove box of course) so if prints are not 100% sterile, why is it clean? it's been incubating for 10 days now, trich would be showing already had the print been not been 100% sterile. :wink: especially since the print I used was taken from healthy mycelium that had trich growing fairly close by.

Everyone says "dont do it" i say, try out what I explained. If anyone has any further questions dont be shy pm me and i'll try to explain it abit better. I need some sleep first though so be abit patient :smile:


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Re: Common sense for the average home cultivator (100% sterile print without a professional lab) [Re: Pr0_X]
    #7933651 - 01/26/08 03:24 AM (16 years, 6 days ago)

They say don't do it because most of the novice posters on this board don't do enough for sterilization as it is, and can barely get a multispore inoc right, let alone a print directly to a jar.


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Re: Common sense for the average home cultivator (100% sterile print without a professional lab) [Re: Crasher]
    #7933664 - 01/26/08 03:30 AM (16 years, 6 days ago)

Well, like I said. If i need to draw a diagram for the new guys I will.

1. Read a glovebox construction tek
2. Grow out a batch
3. Follow the steps ive given for printing
4. Get ready for a supprise

Have faith in yourselfs guys. and dont let anyone ever tell you what you can not do.


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Re: Common sense for the average home cultivator (100% sterile print without a professional lab) [Re: Pr0_X]
    #7933835 - 01/26/08 07:08 AM (16 years, 6 days ago)

There might only be a few ppl who said it can't be done. The majority of people say it's not recommended. No doing it in a "still air box" at home will not be a 100 percent clean print. Technically when you scrape the spores into a shot glass to make a syringe there not 100 percent clean anymore either but they still work just fine.


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Re: Common sense for the average home cultivator (100% sterile print without a professional lab) [Re: DontPlay]
    #7933971 - 01/26/08 08:29 AM (16 years, 6 days ago)

Actually, it's our own selfishness that causes the failures by trying to maximize something thats already been maximized. It's ignorant of us to think that 100 mushroom caps containing over a million spores each need to be "salvaged"
and in a way Crasher is right, "new" guys need to buy a spore syringe and their leading cause of failure is poor sterility of either their enviorment useing to innoc or of the substrate itself but like I said, you need to have success before what im saying can have any effect, if you have success you have the sterility issues under control.

This is a technique that ive recently incorporated since I was having major problems with my own pre-made syringes, preparing your own syringe if your a home cultivator is actually just adding a potentional layer for contamination, if you know the print is sterile well....
straight to substrate it goes, if you have had a succesful grow then you can end up with 12 caps, 12 prints, if printed properlly it's easier to just scrape spores directly into the substrate being used. I did assume people should read my mind so I do appologise.

Listen guys, the theory is right infront of you. I should have took some more pictures to help out the newer guys, im sure the older ones see what im saying about useing peroxcide to insure a 100% print and I did miss out on alot of smaller details... tends to be a problem when im looking at the bigger picture.... So, if a older more experienced cultivator wants to try out what ive mentiond with some excess spawn I know for a fact that I will have your backing and support.

Also, the rye teks for the last three and a half years have not helped me and ive followed them to the T.

Give me some time, i'll go pick up some rye today and do a picture by picture tutorial to explain why some of us just couldnt get the grain thing right.

Just trust me on this :smile:

I understand people are just trying to help each other out, good intentions, good intentions but ya....

I'll write a full tek on this shortly, until then just put the thread on hold. please and thanks.


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