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THE TRUTH
    #7933166 - 01/26/08 01:03 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

http://www.redcurtainmovies.com/movies/Zeitgeist/


If you don't believe it your only feeding the fire. If you do you stand a chance to put it out, and if it really is all BS and you put the fire out, can't it be sparked again?

PLEASE WATCH THIS DOCUMENTARY! please look it up and please question it at every turn and look it up, the facts are there. just give it 20 minutes of your time, please.

MODS if you take down the link, so help me god your only fueling the fire, your only doing what they want you to.


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: whiterussia]
    #7933196 - 01/26/08 01:09 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

Its not all true.

And theres a post about this every couple of weeks.


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: whiterussia]
    #7933202 - 01/26/08 01:10 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

the movie is called Zeitgeist?


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: whiterussia]
    #7933208 - 01/26/08 01:11 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)



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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #7933214 - 01/26/08 01:11 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

And I don't think I even got the complete list.
:suicide:


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #7933219 - 01/26/08 01:13 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

before i start clicking links.. what are all those for?


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: mycopsycho]
    #7933224 - 01/26/08 01:14 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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mycopsycho said:
before i start clicking links.. what are all those for?



Welcome to Zeitgeist hell.

Will a mod please lock this now?


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: whiterussia]
    #7933334 - 01/26/08 01:35 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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It's starting to become fun, responding to these Zeitgeist threads. My typical copied and pasted response is something like this:

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The first part of Zeitgeist is a nice pile of shit, based on made up data by new-age sources who have no source for their own claims.
While there is supposedly an "Egyptologist" in Zeitgeist's sources (who is the originator of the ideas in Part 1 of Zeitgeist), Gerald Massey, in reality he was not a professional Egyptologist, but someone who merely picked up a personal interest in Egyptian mythology at age 42, and became self-taught in reading hieroglyphics. He was also a practicing Druid.


Here is the big fallacy of Zeitgeist Part 1:

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However, if one takes the time to read the sources provided, they will find that what is being presented is based on documented evidence.



The sources provided aren't themselves based on any documented evidence, but are essentially new-age junk literature.
The Egyptian Book of the Dead is itself at odds with Zeitgeist every step of the way.
You see, when Zeitgeist's disclaimer suggests that you research the issue for yourself, what it actually means is "read the new-age books we prescribe," not "verify the authenticity and source of our sources." Doing so reveals there to be no integrity in Zeitgeist's part 1.

The sources provided aren't themselves based on any documented evidence, but are essentially junk literature.
The Egyptian Book of the Dead is itself at odds with Zeitgeist every step of the way.
You see, when Zeitgeist's disclaimer suggests that you research the issue for yourself, what it actually means is "read the new-age books we prescribe," not "verify the authenticity and source of our sources." Doing so reveals there to be no integrity in Zeitgeist's part 1.

- Isis (Horus' mother) was not a virgin. Isis was married to Orisis, and it's assumed their marriage is consummated. Nothing in the Book of the Dead is said to suggest otherwise. Additionally, Isis sews together Osiris' murdered and dismembered body and proceeds to have sex with his body, resulting in the birth of Horus. Nothing resembling virginity there, or immaculate conception.
- Horus' mother's name is Isis, not Meri, not Isis-Meri. The Isis-Meri claim was invented by Acharya S, who is not an egyptologist, and based all of her conjectures off of Gerald Massey's work. Also, no source for her claim was cited.
- Seb is not Horus' dad, Osiris is Horus' dad. Seb is Osiris' dad.
- 2 people born in a place where the color blue is present wouldn't make them comparable, much like an "inconvenient place" doesn't. Being born in a cave vs born in a manger doesn't make for any comparison. Horus was also born in a swamp, not a cave. The unfounded cave claim comes from Acharya S., author of new-age book The Christ Conspiracy.
- Horus was not heralded by an angel or star. This claim once again comes from Acharya S.
-Jesus was not born Dec 25th. Christmas' date did not come until 800 AD, and the date was chosen by the Catholic church to overrule pagan celebrations at the same time, not because it was Jesus' perceived birthday.
- Seth (or Set) tried to kill Horus, not Herut.
- Jesus wasn't visited by 3 wise men, that number's a creation of pop culture.
- Horus was never baptized, nor is there a baptist mentioned in any of the Horus stories. This claim originated with Acharya S, who wrote the book The Christ Conspiracy, which is based on claims by Gerald Massey, who is the person all Horus = Jesus people copy these claims from.
- Horus didn't have disciples. he had 4 (as opposed to 12) demi-god followers, but they weren't disciples.
- Horus never walked on water or raised the dead

There is a lot more wrong with the first chapter of the movie, but you get the point.

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By the way, there was some staunch atheist forum I came across where Zeitgeist's Part 1 was thoroughly dismantled as bullshit, and Acharya S. herself showed up to protest but failed to provide any sources reinforcing her claims, and even had the source she did provide be debunked. Humourous.







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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7933341 - 01/26/08 01:36 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

looks dumb. no offense to anyone...


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: whiterussia]
    #7933350 - 01/26/08 01:39 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

This sucks.


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #7933356 - 01/26/08 01:40 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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HELLA_TIGHT said:
This sucks.




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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: mycopsycho]
    #7933372 - 01/26/08 01:43 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

Is this that old crap about Jesus being a poor copy of bullshit Egyptian mythology?


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: Crasher]
    #7933409 - 01/26/08 01:49 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)


finally I can use this pic.

way 2 repost this agian u freak btw LOL @ u for believing it. if u looked at it it even said don't believe everything you get from it.


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: learningtofly]
    #7933413 - 01/26/08 01:50 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

this thread should die.


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: mycopsycho]
    #7933460 - 01/26/08 02:04 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

KILL IT WITH FIRE!


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: learningtofly]
    #7933468 - 01/26/08 02:07 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

:topicsucks:


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7933475 - 01/26/08 02:08 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

yes it sucks. burn it. im going to sleep and i hope i dont see this thread when i wake up. g'night ppls.


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: whiterussia]
    #7933482 - 01/26/08 02:11 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

oh.for.fucks.sake.

this for the 1200th time?


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: learningtofly]
    #7933484 - 01/26/08 02:12 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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KILL IT WITH FIRE!




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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: whiterussia]
    #7933568 - 01/26/08 02:41 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

there is no TRUTH, don't be stupid


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: demiu5]
    #7933674 - 01/26/08 03:37 AM (16 years, 6 days ago)

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everyone and his dog said:
Hey guys, have you heard about this Zeitgeist movie? I've heard it's really deep and stuff...




What I missed in Zeitgeist was Tom Hanks looking constipated for 90 minutes. At least Da Vinci Code had that going for it.


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: demiu5]
    #7933728 - 01/26/08 04:40 AM (16 years, 6 days ago)

This doco has been debunked more than once. It makes some interesting connections, but it can't verify them at all.


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: hillbilly32]
    #7934849 - 01/26/08 12:41 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

I have never heard of this so I'm gonna check it out(so I can say I have)

so basically this is some documentary which attempts to debunk jesus being the son of god etc???

I don't have time to check it out right away so if someone could give me a quick description

please and thanks


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Re: THE TRUTH [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #7934944 - 01/26/08 12:58 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

This movie is pure crap.

crap crap crap crap crap


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