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drunkmanfuu
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Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle...
#7932177 - 01/25/08 09:05 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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Me and a friend have 22 quart jars going right now, about 15% colonized, and were gonna put them straight into the ground when colonized. I'm wondering if it'll be safe to have them buried during the cold late winter - early spring months here (average temps for Feb. 37-51 F, March 39-55 F, April 43-59 F). I'm just worried the mycellium might not hold up in those temperatures, but B+ is known for its durability. Thanks for any help.
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: drunkmanfuu]
#7932197 - 01/25/08 09:09 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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They will not grow, it's too cold. I'm in Seattle too, I have a FC with B+ and a top soil potted plant with crumbled mycelium - they are inside. Wait until April at LEAST! Also, 15% colonized? Wait man, what's the rush. Fuck I can give you some, uh, portabella, I don't do anything illegal.
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: verminute]
#7932237 - 01/25/08 09:16 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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Well I know the mushrooms won't grow, but I'm just concerned that once the temperatures do get right for them to grow, they won't because they were in the cold so long. Also, I'm worried that if we wait till April then we'll get premature pinning or something in our jars, since they'll be 100% in the next few weeks. April isn't for 8 weeks.
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: drunkmanfuu]
#7932271 - 01/25/08 09:25 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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Place them in the vegetable door in the fridge where it gets no light. You should be fine! PM if you have any more questions, I can help you out.
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: verminute]
#7932276 - 01/25/08 09:27 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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Why can't you spend 20 bucks on a fruiting chamber? SOrry I just don't follow why you want to grow outside...
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: verminute]
#7932315 - 01/25/08 09:36 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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Wait until June to plant them outdoors. If you put grains in the ground, the damn squirrels will dig up every single kernel to eat, and destroy your patch.
Mix the grains with manure indoors, and then in June or July, bury them into a shallow hole with horse or cow manure spread all around the substrates you're planting.
If you want to spawn directly to manure outdoors, use pf cakes, not grain.
These were spawned by some crazy dude at the Seattle Arboretum. The grounds keepers were even careful to work around them so they didn't cause any damage.  RR
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7932320 - 01/25/08 09:38 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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I love jumping the Arboretum bridge in the summer... But those patches are in the gay nudist area on the island... I don't swim out there.
Great info RR, like always.
Edited by verminute (01/25/08 09:39 PM)
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drunkmanfuu
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7932338 - 01/25/08 09:43 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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Well, doing anything indoors is not really an option... Basically the question I'm trying to ask is if we take the jars when they're fully colonized around late February-early March and make the patches according to Moe's outdoor tek, will they still grow in the summer? Doing that is pretty much our only option at this point.
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: verminute]
#7932341 - 01/25/08 09:44 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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No gay nudists around that patch. Actually, now that I think about it, those girls were getting awfully cozy with each other.  RR
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7932350 - 01/25/08 09:46 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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Doing that is pretty much our only option at this point.
No mushrooms for you then. You can't put them out in Feb/March. Christ, I have to wear a coat to 4th of july fireworks every year. Summer doesn't really start until mid-july, and it's dry as hell. Rains don't come until late august/sept. RR
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7932387 - 01/25/08 09:52 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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So I guess if we did that then the mycellium would just die? I'm not sure what would cause it to never grow at all... You'd think it would just be dormant in the cold months then get it's shit together when the heat kicks in. Guess not
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: drunkmanfuu]
#7932393 - 01/25/08 09:55 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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Wait, JUST because of squirrels you can't do any outdoor grain spawning? I don't understand.
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7932438 - 01/25/08 10:06 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: No gay nudists around that patch. Actually, now that I think about it, those girls were getting awfully cozy with each other.  RR
Oh shit. I didn't know you were local. Actually, yes, I have seen some good looking girls there. I assume they were lesbos. Great time during the summer, ever jumped the bridge RR? So much fun!
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: Echo7]
#7932450 - 01/25/08 10:09 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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EchoEclipse71 said: Wait, JUST because of squirrels you can't do any outdoor grain spawning? I don't understand.
Nope, the cold mostly, but yeah, the elements and animals are a HUGE factor.
Edited by verminute (01/25/08 10:10 PM)
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: verminute]
#7932454 - 01/25/08 10:10 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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verminute said:
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EchoEclipse71 said: Wait, JUST because of squirrels you can't do any outdoor grain spawning? I don't understand.
Nope, the cold...
Ahah.
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: Echo7]
#7932466 - 01/25/08 10:13 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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How about near a DSL noc, well, green housing noc. They emit warmth, you might have a shot there!
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: verminute]
#9192179 - 11/05/08 10:40 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I threw some old bulk cakes in a bag of manure i bought from a garden center that was mostly sticks and dirt so was unusable as a bulk. So i dumped it on my outside back porch and threw the old cakes in. I got the most potent dense fatties I have ever grown. 2 flushes so far I cloned the best one into an LC. B+ strain.
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: mushroomer]
#9192187 - 11/05/08 10:42 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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bump
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: mushroomer]
#9192246 - 11/05/08 10:54 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bumping 2 minutes after your post is gonna be frowned upon.. I've heard waiting 24 hrs to bump, or risk getting your thread locked.. Not that I care, just saying
Edited by J3illy (11/05/08 10:54 PM)
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: J3illy]
#9193130 - 11/06/08 01:13 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shite! my bad i just wanted the post to move to the top so I could here you guys feedback.
sorry
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: mushroomer]
#9193159 - 11/06/08 01:17 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's alright bro.. I don't care, I'm guilty of it myself - but I just wanted to throw it out there before someone said something bitching about it..
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: J3illy]
#9193169 - 11/06/08 01:19 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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cool cool. so i got 12 pint brf cakes fully colinized, cambodian strain.
thinking of making a 68q mono tub good idea?
i know brf cakes suck for spawn but I cut them into small squares with a knife
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: mushroomer]
#9193178 - 11/06/08 01:21 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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BRF cakes can be fine for spawn - I'd be more concerned about my bulk substrate.. I've actually heard about some ppl putting them in the blender.. You obv. dont wanna get it mushy - but just until they're broken up into little ball size pieces of spawn..
What'd you have in mind for a bulk sub?
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: J3illy]
#9193210 - 11/06/08 01:27 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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i use 60% coir 30% worm casings 5% gypsum and the rest verm works ok.
the blender huh? never thought of that I was under the impression that you dont want to pulvarise the myc. but that would get it to the same consistancy of WBS wich works quite well and I am using that now excusivaly.
I have no problems with contams in my bulk so i do a 10 to 1 ration spawn to bulk takes about 7-10 days to fully colinize
WBS is imo way better than brf cakes.
danm i love mushrooms!!!
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J3illy
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: mushroomer]
#9193241 - 11/06/08 01:34 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd add some coffee grounds to the coir sub as well - it's really lacking the Nitrogen dept, and coffee takes care of that.. It's a really common add-on - with the gypsum and lime..
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: mushroomer]
#9193258 - 11/06/08 01:38 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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how do you bump? havent looked in to that yet
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J3illy
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noobieshroomie said: how do you bump? havent looked in to that yet
-noobie-
Bumping is just typing the word "bump", or pretty much anything else - with the intention of your thread being bumped back up to the top..
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: J3illy]
#9193296 - 11/06/08 01:49 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh i see thanks
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: mushroomer]
#9193450 - 11/06/08 03:13 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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mushroomer said: Shite! my bad i just wanted the post to move to the top so I could here you guys feedback.
sorry
its cool how nature can give these perfect conditions to make these superior fruit. as cultivators we try to mimic this awsomeness
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: seven]
#9219373 - 11/10/08 05:20 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol @ bumping a thread that's nine months old?
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Re: Outdoor B+ patch in Seattle... [Re: J3illy]
#9219791 - 11/10/08 06:21 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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J3illy said: I'd add some coffee grounds to the coir sub as well - it's really lacking the Nitrogen dept, and coffee takes care of that.. It's a really common add-on - with the gypsum and lime..
Yeah I can tell from the looks of my sub that it needs something else. It just doesnt get a even fluffy white top layer like I have seen with some of the bulk cakes on here.
I mixed 6 half pints of B+ with around 8 pounds of my bulk mix. more than a 1:10 ratio 7 days ago. its about 80% colonized. I took a chance on this one but I hope it pays off. Looking and smelling great so far.
here is a pic, its in a 60 Liter mono tub
and some pinage!
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