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OfflineTheBear
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bigger fruits!!
    #792725 - 08/02/02 03:07 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

ok i have grown to strains. and the latter wich was plantasia mystery. i had three cakes going in my terranium and all i got was three grams out of them all put together. the fruits were long but they were skinny as hell! i just needed to know any ways to get bigger fruits?

thanks


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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: TheBear]
    #792726 - 08/02/02 03:09 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I think humidity might have something to do with it...
Or possible something with your cakes?
im not positivly sure, im on my first grow...thats just what makes sense to me.


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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: TheBear]
    #792749 - 08/02/02 03:29 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Case


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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: pleezr]
    #792878 - 08/02/02 04:45 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i agree with pleezr... case them. if not bigger fruits, definitely a bigger yield. good luck! -b


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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: paleopaque]
    #792893 - 08/02/02 04:55 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Or use bigger jars, which would take longer to colognize, so just stick with a casing.


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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: Killa420]
    #792921 - 08/02/02 05:19 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

your not going to get the big fruits or flushes you desire with cakes no matter what you do. i made one (my first) grow attempt doing pf cakes and went straight to casing. then i moved on to grains, then to spawning dung with grains.

on your next attempt try casing either using hongus tek (straight verm) or 50/50 and yo will more satisfied. then add a more advanced step each time you have a succesful batch.
gluck!


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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: TheBear]
    #792937 - 08/02/02 05:37 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

size of fruits and total yeild are two different things. size of fruit is dependant on two main factors, and a few lesser ones.

1. the availability of nutrients to the fruitbody
2. genetics.

the lesser factors are things like humidity and CO2 levels. growers for show, increase the size of fruits by selecting spores from large parent mushrooms, and by eliminating all except one pinhead, so that all the available nutrition goes to a single mushroom. total yeild in these cases are generally a lot smaller than if the mycelium had been left to decide on it's own where to grow.

excessive CO2 can cause mushrooms to grow long and straggly with small caps. curiously, there are oriental mushroom growers that deliberatly elongate edible mushroom stems by forcing them to grow in a CO2 rich environment. you can find details in Stamet's books.

above posters are telling you to use a tray cultivation method, because this tends to provide a large supply of food in a clump with less surface area, and thus fewer pins per pound of substrate. this is not a disadvantage, as the fewer pins tend to develope to their best potential.


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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: tchyted]
    #793001 - 08/02/02 06:22 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Go look at the dude who dunks his cakes for 12 hours or so...his fruits kick ass..../


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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: UFOz8MyGoat]
    #794678 - 08/03/02 06:52 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

IMO results from cakes are poor, dunked or not.


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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: TheBear]
    #794810 - 08/03/02 09:13 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

cakes are good for a first timer, to get their feet wet.
casing is the way to go.
better yeilds, more flushes. minimal care.
good luck
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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: pleezr]
    #794861 - 08/03/02 10:00 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Agreed, cake yields are drastically low to those yields of horse poo casings they are fucking excuse me unfucking believable 1 shroom i get weighs at the least half a gram and most 3-8 + grams dry

their huge sick and make crazy ass prints!


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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: Anonymous]
    #794886 - 08/03/02 10:37 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Genetics & nutients are critical. Breed two big dogs, feed & water them well -- results in big pups & big adult dogs. Breed big dogs & don't feed or water them well = scrawny pups & scraggly adult dogs.

So, the way I see it, use spores from a strain that yeilds big fruits (genetics), use a good -- big substrate to provide plentifull nutients, case to give them ample water & you should get big shrooms. Providing all else they require (room, foundation, temp & ventilation).

The Coon did one batch of cakes & thought............. WTF.........there has to be a better way.

Grain to grain or seed transfers to get lots of spawn, dung / straw or compost as a substrate, case & provide all else they need & you will get more than you know what to do with .

It is not simple, takes a small investment in material, time, patience & a fungal thumb & before you know it........................... Shroomarma.

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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: TheBear]
    #795001 - 08/04/02 03:25 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Use your cakes to spawn some bulk substrate.

Ten cakes in a cubic foot bag of Scotts 3n1 organic compost should produce several ounces of shrooms.

Mix it 50/50 with vermiculite.



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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #798070 - 08/05/02 03:42 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I don't want to steal anyones thread but I have a question Baby Hitler. What is the easiest way of going about this. I would like to use some cakes for this but what container should I use to colonize the Verm/Scotts Compost. Please help with some details.


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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: 311Shrooms]
    #798175 - 08/05/02 05:02 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, how do you use casing? other then cakes... Because i would rather have bigger shrooms, and bigger yield for sure. =)


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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: ]
    #798628 - 08/05/02 09:04 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

try doing a Search for Casings or check the Casing FAQ


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Re: bigger fruits!! [Re: Darkmoon]
    #803283 - 08/07/02 08:40 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I have read it and I do understand casings in general. I am reffering to using Scotts 3n1 and what is the best way to go about it. I would like detail on this specifically not on casings.I would like to use a cake to colonize the compost so details on this would be helpful.


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