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InvisibleBurningBeard
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Fuck tobacco tax!
    #7927117 - 01/24/08 10:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Last year, the state of Indiana inacted a tax that raised the cost of tobacco products, most notably cigarettes, by an obscene amount. My Marlboro Reds took a huge increase from $3.30 or so to $4.00. Now I have to switch brands. I can't handle the price of these little fuckers anymore. There are two things I do not want to hear in response to this post.

1. Quit smoking. This is not happening right now.

2. We pay more where I live. Well, IN has a pretty low cost of living as compared to other states. So, I already know this. I'm just saying I personally can't afford this shit anymore.

Any tolerable alternatives on the cheap?


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: BurningBeard]
    #7927131 - 01/24/08 10:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

4 dollars is nothing for a pack of reds. Be happy. Check the prices in other states and you will see.

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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: BurningBeard]
    #7927158 - 01/24/08 10:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Roll your own. Not only is it cheaper, but you will smoke less since you have to roll one every time.


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: BurningBeard]
    #7927167 - 01/24/08 10:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Try Parliaments or Camels, they're cheaper.

As for bitching about that price... I pay $6.50-7.00 for a pack of cigarettes where I'm at. I always make a point to buy a pack before going out drinking in NYC (Manhattan) because cigarettes there are $8.00 a pack, no matter the brand.

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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #7927175 - 01/24/08 10:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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ToTheSummit said:
Roll your own. Not only is it cheaper, but you will smoke less since you have to roll one every time.




yup yup, plus they generally taste like shit so that could be a smoking deterent as well


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: Gumby]
    #7927183 - 01/24/08 10:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Id have to agree, roll your own.

Zigzag is pretty decent.

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InvisibleBurningBeard
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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: mycopsycho]
    #7927193 - 01/24/08 10:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Phew. Just glad I live here. It could definitely be worse. Go friends in NY that constantly tell me to shut the fuck up about price. Sadly, starving student here.


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: BurningBeard]
    #7927277 - 01/24/08 10:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't smoke. But in my hometown, there about 3.65. and I'm about a hour or less away form where they make it. :shake:


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: BurningBeard]
    #7927317 - 01/24/08 10:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

"quiting is not an option"?

are you fucking shitting me?

What kind of logic is that? "cigarettes cost too much money and they are unhealthy, but quitting isn't option der der der"

tool.


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: StonedShroom]
    #7927329 - 01/24/08 10:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I am in the midst of quitting. Easier than I thought but I have not been drinking yet.

I am 72 hours free minus 1 cig tonight to help me concentrate on my MUCH needed studies. I did not even enjoy it. :shrug:

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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: StonedShroom]
    #7927335 - 01/24/08 10:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If quitting "isn't an option," cut back your usage so you're smoking away the same amount of money a day.

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InvisibleBurningBeard
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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7927495 - 01/24/08 11:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hey, I'm not proud of being a slave to my addiction. It's just that... you know what they say... if you don't want it, you won't get it. I'm not to the point where I genuinely want to quit yet. Sure, I could bullshit everyone and claim it's something I want, but I know underneath, I don't.

Hmm... experiment... psychadelics as an aid to quitting smoking. :wink:


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: BurningBeard]
    #7927742 - 01/25/08 12:05 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

1. buy cartons 2. indian reservations 3. roll your own/grow/pipe

ps. i quit like a week ago, don't have cravings at all.


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InvisibleBurningBeard
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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: SleepyF0x]
    #7927762 - 01/25/08 12:12 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like rollies is the way I'll be going.


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! *DELETED* [Re: BurningBeard]
    #7927950 - 01/25/08 12:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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InvisibleBurningBeard
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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: xurzax]
    #7927995 - 01/25/08 01:07 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Is that in USD?


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: BurningBeard]
    #7928426 - 01/25/08 03:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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BurningBeard said:
Is that in USD?




The US and Canadian dollar is about the same now.

The Canadian dollar is actually slightly HIGHER at this point. :rolleyes:

1 USD to 1.0071 Canadian.

You guys ready for the Amero?

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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7928536 - 01/25/08 05:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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You guys ready for the Amero?




:rolleyes:

Not happening.

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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: Redstorm]
    #7928591 - 01/25/08 05:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
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You guys ready for the Amero?




:rolleyes:

Not happening.




Maybe not as such... but that North American Union thing is sort of moving in that direction.  :ohwell:

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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: BurningBeard]
    #7928692 - 01/25/08 06:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:whatever:


Cigarettes are $12 a pack here.


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7928823 - 01/25/08 08:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ontario prices, $10 for premium Canadian smokes (Du maurier :smile: $5-8 for crappier smokes. However you can get big whopping bags of cheap smokes on the native reserves for $15, but theres a reason there so cheap :frown:.

On the plus side. 40% of smokers in Ontario buy bootleg smokes, usually $5 for a premium :smile:. The recent rise in the Canadian dollar has also fucked us in a way because the value of the dollars gone up...but prices don't reflect the sudden increase in value of our money...

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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: Irdamage]
    #7928876 - 01/25/08 08:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Somehow I had a feeling this would turn into a discussion of economy elsewhere.

My point plain and simple, regardless of what prices may be elsewhere is that even at $4.00 and up, I can't afford the shit. It's become financially infeasable for me to continue smoking... unless I convert to rollies.

Interesting about the Canadian dollar. I had no idea.

Understand too that this isn't an attempt at whining. It's just a simple inquiry for advice.


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: Redstorm]
    #7928938 - 01/25/08 08:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
Quote:

You guys ready for the Amero?




:rolleyes:

Not happening.



ya canada wouldnt want to share currency with us, wed fuck up their economy as well as ours then :rofl:


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #7929158 - 01/25/08 10:16 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ToTheSummit said:
Roll your own. Not only is it cheaper, but you will smoke less since you have to roll one every time.




Rolling your own is the way to go.

Roll Prince Albert and stay away from Top's and ZigZag brand of tobacco.

PA is the only way to roll.

It is like smoking a little blunt.


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: niteowl]
    #7929339 - 01/25/08 11:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Holy shitballs... $12 a pack? Insanity.
Makes me glad I live in VA for once. $3-4 a pack for most commercial brands.


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: Shroomism]
    #7929351 - 01/25/08 11:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Cloves (Djarums) in DC used to be 12 dollars a pack. When I moved to Cali, they were 4.50. I moved back to DC a year ago and they're down to about 8-9

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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: BurningBeard]
    #7929356 - 01/25/08 11:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

4 dollars, ha. Here a pack is like 6 or 7 bucks.


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: BrAiN]
    #7929407 - 01/25/08 11:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah cloves are expensive here for some reason


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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7929446 - 01/25/08 12:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

6 or 7 bucks? Are smokes cheaper in Brooklyn? No matter where I go or what brand(Camel, Parliament, Marlboro) I buy in Manhattan it's 8 bucks. I think ONCE I found a place in the village that sold them for $7.50

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Re: Fuck tobacco tax! [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #7930021 - 01/25/08 02:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Zinglons Acolyte said:
Quote:

Redstorm said:
Quote:

You guys ready for the Amero?




:rolleyes:

Not happening.



ya canada wouldnt want to share currency with us, wed fuck up their economy as well as ours then :rofl:




Canada did, however agree to share basically open borders with the U.S. though, despite the U.S. basically being Canada's Mexico at this point.

I pay 4.50ish for a pack of Camels here.

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