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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: 04281969]
    #7928926 - 01/25/08 08:50 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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Stay off drugs and use your third eye. Focus.




For real, mediatation, that what i shoudlve said! Just breathe


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: Chronic7]
    #7928940 - 01/25/08 08:55 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

for some people alcohol relieves social anxiety a lot. perhaps you could go with some friends to the club. have a couple a drinks and see where it goes. don't get shit faced tho...


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: Chronic7]
    #7929665 - 01/25/08 12:48 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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LayYouIn said:im noticing that i have paranoia and social problems. strange psychosis type things.



Can you be more specific? Are we talking mainly about extreme anxiety, like social anxiety, or are you noticing other things? Also, which other psychoactive substances have you been using and what was the nature of the use (duration, intent, etc..)?




just marijuana and shrooms. i did them pretty heavy last year and the marijuana was very high quality. i usually did 5 gram shroom trips every two weeks. i got into a mindset where i was basically care-free about everything. now i've notice that i have minor mood swings(probley irritability from the weed) and when i talk to people i dont really know what to say...but it's more like getting confused and then i think that they are trying to trick me in some way and basically get paranoid.

it's not a constant thing though.

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i find im happier, more approachable, more caring, more accpeting and more loving when ive been tripping.




i became this way too but realized that people just get jelous and try to piss me off. sometimes it just seems like people hate happy people...


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7929689 - 01/25/08 12:54 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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LayYouIn said:im noticing that i have paranoia and social problems. strange psychosis type things.



Can you be more specific? Are we talking mainly about extreme anxiety, like social anxiety, or are you noticing other things? Also, which other psychoactive substances have you been using and what was the nature of the use (duration, intent, etc..)?




just marijuana and shrooms. i did them pretty heavy last year and the marijuana was very high quality. i usually did 5 gram shroom trips every two weeks. i got into a mindset where i was basically care-free about everything. now i've notice that i have minor mood swings(probley irritability from the weed) and when i talk to people i dont really know what to say...but it's more like getting confused and then i think that they are trying to trick me in some way and basically get paranoid.

it's not a constant thing though.

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i find im happier, more approachable, more caring, more accpeting and more loving when ive been tripping.




i became this way too but realized that people just get jelous and try to piss me off. sometimes it just seems like people hate happy people...





VERY true, people donrt liek to see others do well, it is one of the biggest human conditions, itis based in fear of seeing other acheive and either wanting it for themselves and being jealous, or simply being scared of the unknown.

Liek if you got a HOT girlfriend and take her out, i gauruntee you youll see about 5 guys in that night hating on you.

Everything is done out of fear or love, if ythey dont love you, they fear you. The trick is give them no reason to fear you and akll they can do is love you, dont express your ecstacy to those around you, as youll make them feel inferrior thru fear, just try and guide them on the right path?


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: Chronic7]
    #7929753 - 01/25/08 01:09 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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VERY true, people donrt liek to see others do well, it is one of the biggest human conditions, itis based in fear of seeing other acheive and either wanting it for themselves and being jealous, or simply being scared of the unknown.

Liek if you got a HOT girlfriend and take her out, i gauruntee you youll see about 5 guys in that night hating on you.

Everything is done out of fear or love, if ythey dont love you, they fear you. The trick is give them no reason to fear you and akll they can do is love you, dont express your ecstacy to those around you, as youll make them feel inferrior thru fear, just try and guide them on the right path?




why are people like this? shrooms have taught me to love life and thats what i do reguardless. but people's jealousy begins to piss me off.


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7929786 - 01/25/08 01:16 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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VERY true, people donrt liek to see others do well, it is one of the biggest human conditions, itis based in fear of seeing other acheive and either wanting it for themselves and being jealous, or simply being scared of the unknown.

Like if you got a HOT girlfriend and take her out, i guarantee you you'll see about 5 guys in that night hating on you.

Everything is done out of fear or love, if they don't love you, they fear you. The trick is give them no reason to fear you and all they can do is love you, don't express your Ecstasy to those around you, as you'll make them feel inferior thru fear, just try and guide them on the right path?




why are people like this? shrooms have taught me to love life and thats what i do regardless. but people's jealousy begins to piss me off.





I think we are like this because its our natural animal instincts, thousand of years form now as long as we're not all destroyed we will look back at what primitive beings we were in the year 2000, there a millions of unaware people on this planet and until we are all more aware and closer to the oneness from which we came it will keep on happening, but if we wernt where we are now, how could we even conceive of a brighter future?

You need to go thru the darkest time to get to the brightest, that is SO true about everything.


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: Chronic7]
    #7929839 - 01/25/08 01:29 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

Hey, even the most social people take breaks for awhile, it just happens. That's a sort of cycle for all people. Nobody is always feeling social, even if they are good at acting like it.


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: eve69]
    #7929886 - 01/25/08 01:38 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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Hey, even the most social people take breaks for awhile, it just happens. That's a sort of cycle for all people. Nobody is always feeling social, even if they are good at acting like it.




Exactly also when you see that joker in the pub being loud and looks like hes on top of the world....hes probably the most miserable lonley person in that place and feels the need to act out accordingly.

I have a saying "life of the party but dying inside"


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: Chronic7]
    #7930506 - 01/25/08 03:49 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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LayYouIn said:im noticing that i have paranoia and social problems. strange psychosis type things.



Can you be more specific? Are we talking mainly about extreme anxiety, like social anxiety, or are you noticing other things? Also, which other psychoactive substances have you been using and what was the nature of the use (duration, intent, etc..)?




just marijuana and shrooms. i did them pretty heavy last year and the marijuana was very high quality. i usually did 5 gram shroom trips every two weeks. i got into a mindset where i was basically care-free about everything. now i've notice that i have minor mood swings(probley irritability from the weed) and when i talk to people i dont really know what to say...but it's more like getting confused and then i think that they are trying to trick me in some way and basically get paranoid.

it's not a constant thing though.



So you'd say the pot/shrooms helped you feel more comfortable and less anxious at the time?
The following is a personal question and of course you don't have to answer if you don't want to: Did any other significant events in your life coincide with stopping these substances?


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: 04281969]
    #7930666 - 01/25/08 04:18 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

Maybe it's because the shrooms have revealed your true self to your conscious mind, and you are now to go through life with this knowledge at all times. The truth can be scary, and hard to work with, but... you have to use it to empower yourself.

Knowledge (truth) is power.

One more thing... willpower is the foundation of success.

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The problem i have is i seem to attract my friends girlfriends which sucks BIGTIME!!! Ive lost 3 "good" friends due to this, like i got control over who i do and dont attract, go figure.




That's happened to me too. I think it happens because a girl goes out with your friend, then she meets you (or at least gets to know you better), because surely you hang out with BOTH of them on a regular basis (unless she puts a leash on him) and sees you as a better option. I was young, a virgin, and was tempted by the all-powerful vagina that was offering itself to me. I didn't get with her (fucking stupid on my part... but hey, I guess I'm a better person for it) but the situation became apparent to all, and things ended.

Luckily, me and the guy are still friends.

The girl?... she's been with a crack dealer who is 9 years older than her (she's still only about .. 16 or 17), and she's on the shit too. It's a shame, but I have trouble having pity for cokeheads because I've been there, and they don't deserve sympathy 99% of the time.

Women can be so utterly heartless and fickle. Especially in school.

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No, I understand the permanent weird behavior thing. I had a buddy of mine did acid/goomz ALL the time. His behavior was very creepy, even sober.

I don't think it's all in the head, mushrooms make me creepy when I'm on it/or have weird behavior to say the least. I call it creepy though.

Drinking might help, or stimulants- cocaine,amphetamines(adderall,dexedrine,selegiline)




If you act creepy... I think it's more because that's just who you are. I wouldn't blame that on an entheogen. And telling someone to resort to alcohol or stimulant use to try and alleviate social anxiety... is not cool in my book.

Chances are you'll just become addicted to the substance and be much worse off than if you just get the hell over your problem. Sure, you're outgoing and you feel like you're on top of the world for MAYBE a couple of hours.

Yeh. Then you feel like the biggest pile of :poop: imaginable because your brain is aching for more. FUUUUUCk that. :thumbdown:


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7930884 - 01/25/08 04:55 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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LayYouIn said:
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chronic777 said:
VERY true, people donrt liek to see others do well, it is one of the biggest human conditions, itis based in fear of seeing other acheive and either wanting it for themselves and being jealous, or simply being scared of the unknown.

Liek if you got a HOT girlfriend and take her out, i gauruntee you youll see about 5 guys in that night hating on you.

Everything is done out of fear or love, if ythey dont love you, they fear you. The trick is give them no reason to fear you and akll they can do is love you, dont express your ecstacy to those around you, as youll make them feel inferrior thru fear, just try and guide them on the right path?




why are people like this? shrooms have taught me to love life and thats what i do reguardless. but people's jealousy begins to piss me off.




Fuck the haters, I couldn't care less if people are jealous of me.. it just means you're better than them and they know it


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: Land_Crab]
    #7931463 - 01/25/08 06:47 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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Did any other significant events in your life coincide with stopping these substances?




no. it was weird. i was only smoking 4-5 cigarettes a day for the last couple of years. but a few months ago i got my new job and was physically tired and mentally stressed from the new job(always am at new jobs) so i started drinking(not something i normally do) pretty much everyday but only 2-3 24 oncer's. i was still smoking weed regularly and doing shrooms every couple of weeks.

then i went to the bar one night, but before going i went to go buy a few cigarettes(3 for $1) and the guy said that i could buy a whole pack of a crappy brand for $2 and i figured since im going to the bar i might as well. i got drunk at the bar, smoked cigarettes, made out with some nasty older women, gave a drunk guy a ride home, went back to the bar, then went home. the next day i felt like shit and didn't smoke because i was out of cigarettes.

then i just stopped drinking everyday and completely stopped smoking. that was like 6 weeks ago.

two weeks after that, i ate 8 grams of mushrooms and had a really bad trip. i thought i was in purgatory and reliving this life over and over again. i thought i was one of satans servants and that there was no way out. i had a seizure and then felt fine but still wasn't sure if i was or was not in purgatory.

in the last 6 weeks there was one time i drank a couple of beers and the same time i took a couple of hits of weed. that was two weeks ago.


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: Chronic7]
    #7931654 - 01/25/08 07:24 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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chronic777 said:
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eve69 said:
Hey, even the most social people take breaks for awhile, it just happens. That's a sort of cycle for all people. Nobody is always feeling social, even if they are good at acting like it.




Exactly also when you see that joker in the pub being loud and looks like hes on top of the world....hes probably the most miserable lonley person in that place and feels the need to act out accordingly.

I have a saying "life of the party but dying inside"




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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7932034 - 01/25/08 08:40 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

two weeks after that, i ate 8 grams of mushrooms and had a really bad trip. i thought i was in purgatory and reliving this life over and over again. i thought i was one of satans servants and that there was no way out. i had a seizure and then felt fine but still wasn't sure if i was or was not in purgatory.

WOw man; pretty fucking scary. I had that type of trip, with the exact dosage.
Except it was my second time, and the next day after my first.

Worse experience of my life. My dad (big time Christian) prayed for me...I'm sure made me more confused by asking me questions. All I remember was that I hated my life, this was Hell, and there's no end. I also remember saying to my dad; "I'm so confused, Dad, you got to help me make it make sense."

I truly felt schizo.

Two weeks after that I had to figure out the high, and why. I knew it was my dosage, time, plan. I was such a fucking newb with them. Learned the heavy way, though.

To add to your current dilemna; I think it sounds like you're depressed. You've got to releive it! Drugs don't help but they do! It's all up to you! Don't over analyze everybody, chances are they are too. It's fuckin stupid. Just remember we all shit the same and are faced with two kinds of everything.

Taker her on easy down the trail.


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: Silent_Vinny]
    #7932065 - 01/25/08 08:47 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: Silent_Vinny]
    #7932477 - 01/25/08 10:15 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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I truly felt schizo.




haha, so did i.  i thought i was going to end up in a mental institution or something.  i kept saying "god, tell everyone how sorry i am for everything" but i knew that i was cut off from god and my message would never be delivered...it definitely shocked me.  even looking back now, it was absolutely frightening.

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To add to your current dilemna; I think it sounds like you're depressed.




this is what my mom thinks.  she signed me up for therapy a while ago but i never went.  im kind of scared to.  but i think after being off drugs for a while, if things dont look up, ill go.  i just didn't see the point in going when i was using drugs.

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Drugs don't help but they do!




:confused:

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Don't over analyze everybody




this is definitely something i need to stop doing.  not just with people, but everything in general.  i know it can contribute to background stress and i wont even realize what im hauling around until i eat some shrooms and learn that i need to chill out.  that's one of the reasons i liked shrooms so much, i learned that i need to stop stressing over stupid things and just enjoy life as much as i can.

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Just remember we all shit the same and are faced with two kinds of everything.




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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7935258 - 01/26/08 01:58 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

"Drugs Don't Help But They Do."

"Two kinds of everything." (opposite. Everything is.:stoned:

I had a lot of anxiety before I started smoking. I was born with the notion that if a person isn't born again (a Christian), than they are controlled by the Devil; they're born to go to Hell.

Looking back; I was just very confused. Music and movies was my only piece of peace of the world. Then eventually it was my obsession over a particular girl that I've still haven't let it be known.

I'm a very lonely guy, always have been. I'd get by on my imagination; my dreams, my goals.

It won't be easy, if it is than I will end up like nothing. Meaningless. Adding on, sharing, creating to the world is the only thing I can configure my mind.

I see the good in everyone..and if I don't...I still smile at them. I see how easy it is for young adults to destroy themselves...I would be in that trip forever if I didn't step outside and face what is real.:cool:


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: Silent_Vinny]
    #7935441 - 01/26/08 02:33 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

I used to be very scared of social situations as well. And I suggest drinking. I liked who I was when I was a little drunk more so I slowly taught myself to be that person all the time. After a while of having lower inhibitions and seeing that it is only good then it becomes easy to do that when sober. Now I am not saying get hammered. Just a few drinks to where you feel a little elated. Plus if you do this at the bar with a bunch of people other people will be drunk and you will be the fairly sober one, also a big confidence boost.


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: Nem]
    #7935961 - 01/26/08 04:10 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

the problem i have with drinking is that i always want to smoke...also, i dont like the risk of a dui and i dont like how much it cost. i also dont think that it's a good idea to be drinking when im trying to clean up my act.

i really think the best way is to just eat healthy, exercise, and wait for me to find my mind again.


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Re: Brain Recovery From Shrooming To Much [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7936202 - 01/26/08 05:09 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

I overdid it big time. Had the satan feelings and all that bad shit i won't go into.

In short, i've got a hold of my life in a very short time. I've realized that I was just abusing the drug and way way over doing it and it treated me the way i treated it.

I believe that mushrooms are an alpha drug if you will. You need to stay on top of your game if you want to play with it.

I've gotten into tremendous shape in these past few months and am improving everyday. Only thing I really need to work on is better people skills and better study habits as I tend to have a knack for getting behind in work that needs to be done.

To sum it up... your body is a temple, keep that temple in tip top shape at all costs. Get your ass in a weightroom and learn.


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