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appleorange
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Women & Casual Sex
#7926268 - 01/24/08 08:07 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Taken from:
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/Top/ecomments/4754/
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"If you were a man walking across the campus of Florida State University in 1978, an attractive young woman might have approached you and said these exact words: "I have been noticing you around campus. I find you to be attractive. Would you go to bed with me tonight?"
If you were that man, you probably would have thought that you had just gotten incredibly lucky. But not really. You were actually an unwitting subject in an experiment designed by the psychologist Russell Clark.
Clark had persuaded the students of his social psychology class to help him find out which gender, in a real-life situation, would be more receptive to a sexual offer from a stranger. The only way to find out, he figured, was to actually get out there and see what would happen. So young men and women from his class fanned out across campus and began propositioning strangers.
The results weren't very surprising. Seventy-five percent of guys were happy to oblige an attractive female stranger (and those who said no typically offered an excuse such as, "I'm married"). But not a single woman accepted the identical offer of an attractive male. In fact, most of them demanded the guy leave her alone.
At first the psychological community dismissed Clark's experiment as a trivial stunt, but gradually his experiment gained first acceptance, and then praise for how dramatically it revealed the differing sexual attitudes of men and women. Today it's considered a classic. But why men and women display such different attitudes remains as hotly debated as ever."
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My question is, why the completely different attitude towards sex? There's not a guy on this board who would turn down a hot chick whom he never met, for a nasty at the motel 6. But I seriously doubt there there is any woman on this board, aside from Crystal G, who would do the same if some stud approached her.
I definitely have my own thoughts and opinions on this, but I just wanna hear what some of the females have to say here. Try not to reply with "he might be a serial killer or a perv" because I highly doubt that this is what is going on here.
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NiamhNyx
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That's pretty funny. I think if someone walked up to me and asked me if I'd go to bed with them I'd initially be taken aback and probably not know how to respond immediately. To be entirely honest, if they were my type physically and style-wise and asked in a way that was light hearted and not too intense, I'd probably consider saying yes. Maybe I'd suggest going for a drink in order to have more time and information necessary for a decision. If they weren't the type I was attracted to, I'd probably be totally creeped out.
75% of men said yes, eh? Hmm... that gives me hope that the total babe in english class wouldn't be wierded out by a forward approach... I'm trying to be more blunt in most areas of social interaction, so this seems like a worthy experiment!
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NiamhNyx
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Oh yeah, and as to 'why' the different attitudes: socialisation.
Women are taught in our culture that having no-strings-attached spontaneous sex is SLUTTY, and that being slutty is beyond reproach. Women are taught that a good man could never love a woman with any history of sluttiness... that promiscuity is an invitation to abuse.
Men are taught that they should want as much sex as possible, and dread being 'tied down.' That they are proven powerful if they get as much as they can.
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appleorange
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Re: Women & Casual Sex [Re: NiamhNyx]
#7926541 - 01/24/08 08:44 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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haha,
even niamh alluded to how it would be nice to get a drink first and chat before doing the deed.
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Veritas

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Aside from the obvious socialization reasons, there may also be evolutionary reasons why men say "yes" to a stranger, but women say "hell no!"
If a man gets a woman pregnant, his role is pretty much over. His genes have been passed on to the next generation, and he is an evolutionary success. However, when a woman gets pregnant, she has 40 weeks of gestation to contend with. She needs to have enough food to grow a human being, enough shelter and time to relax to prevent a miscarriage or premature birth, and help during labor and the early weeks of infancy.
Thus, it makes sense that women who are naturally cautious in their choice of sexual partners would be more likely to pass on their genes, as well as to teach their daughters to be similarly cautious. Eventually, this caution would become part of our socialization process for females, and be passed on to the few females who descended from incautious women.
Then if we throw in the general tendency for men to be more violent than women, and the general tendency for women to be smaller and more vulnerable than men, it makes sense that a woman would say "hell no!"
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Re: Women & Casual Sex [Re: Veritas]
#7926718 - 01/24/08 09:08 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Veritas said: Aside from the obvious socialization reasons, there may also be evolutionary reasons why men say "yes" to a stranger, but women say "hell no!"
If a man gets a woman pregnant, his role is pretty much over. His genes have been passed on to the next generation, and he is an evolutionary success. However, when a woman gets pregnant, she has 40 weeks of gestation to contend with. She needs to have enough food to grow a human being, enough shelter and time to relax to prevent a miscarriage or premature birth, and help during labor and the early weeks of infancy.
Thus, it makes sense that women who are naturally cautious in their choice of sexual partners would be more likely to pass on their genes, as well as to teach their daughters to be similarly cautious. Eventually, this caution would become part of our socialization process for females, and be passed on to the few females who descended from incautious women.
Then if we throw in the general tendency for men to be more violent than women, and the general tendency for women to be smaller and more vulnerable than men, it makes sense that a woman would say "hell no!"
you pretty much summed up my thoughts.
I think it's mostly an evolutionary thing tossed in with a pinch of women needing to be skeptical of strangers.
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Veritas

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Which would ALSO be an evolutionary thing, as the women who trust strangers would be more likely to end up dead & therefore not pass on their genes. 
I like a nice balance of curiosity, trust & caution myself. It leads to more adventures!
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Re: Women & Casual Sex [Re: Veritas]
#7926824 - 01/24/08 09:24 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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I don't believe in casual sex either, which is why I frequently wear a tuxedo.
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Veritas

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"Be Prepared"?
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Re: Women & Casual Sex [Re: Veritas]
#7926852 - 01/24/08 09:29 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Not as in getting married, I just believe in formal sex.
As the black guy who went in to get a vasectomy wearing a tuxedo said, "If I's gonna be impotent, I wants to look impotent!"
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Veritas

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Edit: never mind. Damn those lesser-used definitions!
Edited by Veritas (01/24/08 09:33 PM)
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Re: Women & Casual Sex [Re: Veritas]
#7926887 - 01/24/08 09:33 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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It was a quote, dearie - challenge the author. (Ruin my joke! )
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Quote:
But not a single woman accepted the identical offer of an attractive male. In fact, most of them demanded the guy leave her alone.
haha, that's funny. especially since this was done at FSU
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Re: Women & Casual Sex [Re: Cracka_X]
#7927404 - 01/24/08 11:01 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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I would be interested to see if the results would be the same now as in '78. I bet they wouldn't be.
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NiamhNyx
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Re: Women & Casual Sex [Re: mushbaby]
#7927441 - 01/24/08 11:06 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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I'm sure you're right. What would be really interesting is how much different they might be. It would also be interesting to try the experiment in a variety of locations and in different cultures and compare the differences.
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Re: Women & Casual Sex [Re: NiamhNyx]
#7927445 - 01/24/08 11:08 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Yes I think the majority would still be the same. But a few more guys would say no and a few more girls would say yes.
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Re: Women & Casual Sex [Re: mushbaby]
#7927590 - 01/24/08 11:34 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Im not sure if there would be much of a change from the man perspective but i think your right about the females. If you go to a night club or a rave there seems to be plenty of women there who dont mind casual sex.
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Re: Women & Casual Sex [Re: DimensionX]
#7927934 - 01/25/08 12:55 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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So if you asked women to go for a cup of coffee and then have sex percentages would become more even? They should do some research on that. How much coffee does it require for a woman to want to have sex with a man?
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Re: Women & Casual Sex [Re: Kamek] 1
#7927964 - 01/25/08 01:01 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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A more interesting research would be: how much coffee is it necessary in order to make a man stop wanting to have sex with a woman?
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Unless you can OD on coffee I think no amount would be enough.
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