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Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses?
    #7925898 - 01/24/08 07:16 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Think about it. Those pain in the ass foxes and raccoons and dogs, etc. who eat up on patches they come across. Do they think about how much is a good amount to eat? Or do they just chomp chomp chomp and spend the next period of time in a new universe?

Do they have bad trips?

Do they gain insight? Maybe they learn that the chipmunks are all uptight and the owls have it right. Or maybe they don't think of shit and just think of how fucked up they are.


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: PyroBurns]
    #7925938 - 01/24/08 07:23 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

I beleive psilocybin is produced to keep animals from eating them. I may be wrong though but I would think animals would be weary to eat them


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: PyroBurns]
    #7925941 - 01/24/08 07:24 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Animals react differently. Some go totally mad while tripping, while others seek out mushrooms again and again after eating them once. I think, if psychedelics effect animals in even close to the same way as they effect us, it probably just becomes more painfully obvious to them that humans are stupid.


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: mikeytro]
    #7925976 - 01/24/08 07:29 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

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mikeytro said:
I beleive psilocybin is produced to keep animals from eating them. I may be wrong though but I would think animals would be weary to eat them




*wary

Squirells do not seem to suffer any effects whatsoever based on my observations.


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: mikeytro]
    #7925996 - 01/24/08 07:32 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

I'm guessing animals have learned over time to just stay away from eating mushrooms altogether. Some taste good and are okay to eat, but others make you sick or can kill you, while others make you go crazy.

That's about a 33% chance that you'll eat one that won't make you trip balls or kill you. If I was a chipmunk or a squirrel and did the math on my calculator and got those odds I'd stay away from mushrooms. Animals don't know the difference between mushrooms and which ones to eat and not eat anyway; so they might just steer clear of them altogether :shrug:


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: Robo]
    #7926051 - 01/24/08 07:39 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

The squirrels I have observed ate absolutely every single fungi in the vicinity. This included boletes, lepiota, chanterelles, chlorophyllum, cubensis, shiitake and LBMs. I really don't think they give a good goddamn.


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: debianlinux]
    #7926064 - 01/24/08 07:40 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

so squirrels don't react to psylocibin?


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: debianlinux]
    #7926078 - 01/24/08 07:42 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Well just goes to show I don't know shit about squirrels then. If I was an animal I'd just not eat mushrooms....or then again maybe I wouldn't care because I would be too stupid to care. Either/or.


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: Robo]
    #7926147 - 01/24/08 07:51 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Mushrooms are a fabulous source of protein and fiber. They have only passive defense that can be evolved to overcome and once established they grow back predictably. They are easy to locate and harvest. The only reason NOT to eat them would be the potential of poisoning.


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: debianlinux]
    #7926220 - 01/24/08 08:00 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

I don't believe that it would effect any species other than humans in a psychedelic way. Due to the fact of our Evolved/created minds, whichever outlook you have upon that aspect.

I believe humans are the only organism with an evolved consciousness that is able to process such a chemical.

These ideas of course just my own theory/opinion.


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7926232 - 01/24/08 08:02 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

I'm pretty sure all mammals are effected by psilocin.


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: robbyberto]
    #7926299 - 01/24/08 08:11 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Affected != Tripping

Caffeine affects me. It raises my heartrate and constricts my blood vessels. Caffeine kills my cat. We are both affected by it but in different ways.

I agree with DuneRaver in the sense that humans and maybe primates are the only ones seeing sounds and hearing colors. I certainly wouldn't state that as a fact, tho. I've seen tripping felines and they were fucking wigging out.


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7926321 - 01/24/08 08:14 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

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DuNeRaVeR said:
I don't believe that it would effect any species other than humans in a psychedelic way.  Due to the fact of our Evolved/created minds, whichever outlook you have upon that aspect.

  I believe humans are the only organism with an evolved consciousness that is able to process such a chemical.

These ideas of course just my own theory/opinion.





we dont really process the chemical, its a foreign chemical in our brain and body works to eventually flush it out after a period of time, hence the end of a trip

and I agree with the other poster: I would think all mammal are affected by psilocybin if ingested. obviously they cant introspect like us but there would obviously be effects

this is all just me assuming a bunch of shit though :tongue:


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: debianlinux]
    #7926330 - 01/24/08 08:15 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

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I've seen tripping felines and they were fucking wigging out.





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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: mikeytro]
    #7926336 - 01/24/08 08:16 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Actually, caffeine was a horrible example. A rather small amount will kill a human. I think I made the point, tho.


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: Robo]
    #7926468 - 01/24/08 08:34 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

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If I was a chipmunk or a squirrel and did the math on my calculator and got those odds I'd stay away from mushrooms.






do you really think that their brain could comprehend the chances?


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: debianlinux]
    #7926488 - 01/24/08 08:37 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Well Reindeer are particularly fond of Amanita Muscaria. Going so far as to eat the urine of others that have eaten them already. Some anthropologists believe that reindeer herding was one of the introductions of mushrooms into shamanism, particularly that in Siberia.

Shrooms: A Cultural History
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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7926549 - 01/24/08 08:44 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

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do you really think that their brain could comprehend the chances?




This one could.



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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: Robo]
    #7926559 - 01/24/08 08:45 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

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Omni said:
Quote:

debianlinux said:
I've seen tripping felines and they were fucking wigging out.








thats hilarious.


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: Robo]
    #7926590 - 01/24/08 08:49 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

your better at finding pictures than me...what's your secrete?


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7926629 - 01/24/08 08:54 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

I typed in 'calculator' and then 'chipmunk'. That's what I got :shrug:


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: Robo]
    #7926844 - 01/24/08 09:27 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

i searched for the same thing...i used yahoo and then click pictures...what search engine did you use?


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7928520 - 01/25/08 05:07 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

:google:


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: Robo]
    #7928658 - 01/25/08 06:33 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

It's doubtful animals enjoy the affects of hallucinogens. In controlled experiments animals will not self-administer hallucinogens.

The only "evidence" for animals administering or eating mushrooms (that I am aware of) seems to be somewhat anecdotal, and there is little evidence they went back for a second bite.


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Re: Are shrooming animals constantly taking heroic doses? [Re: badchad]
    #7942105 - 01/27/08 07:11 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

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The only "evidence" for animals administering or eating mushrooms (that I am aware of) seems to be somewhat anecdotal, and there is little evidence they went back for a second bite.




if you consider a slug an animal then i can show you loads of evidence


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