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San Pedro Help (again)
    #7924054 - 01/24/08 12:35 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Several specimens of San Pedro where procured recently, all about a foot long. I want to 'clone' them but don't know if it is too late as they have been separated from the mother plant for awhile (don't know exactly how long). Another issue is there is no top, its just cut on both ends. The ends have dried significantly but the inner part is green and healthy looking.

My question is, if I cut one of the ends off revealing the green inside and placed in growing medium will it likely survive the transplant? Or has it been separated too long?


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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #7924079 - 01/24/08 12:42 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

You want the ends to be dry and calloused, not fresh cut. You just plant it right side up in dry soil and wait for it to grow roots, simple as that.

Cacti cuttings can live for over a year with no roots so no worries about it being separated for a while, that's a good thing because now it's calloused and ready to plant.


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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: plainswalker]
    #7924093 - 01/24/08 12:45 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

also if you search there is already a lot of info here and on the net

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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: royer]
    #7924108 - 01/24/08 12:48 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #7924389 - 01/24/08 02:13 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Make sure you plant it right side up...

You can tell by looking at the V-shapped notchs...

IF it has V-shapped notchs...

The "V" will always point down toward the areole at the end which should be placed in soil.


Keep the soil dry until it shoots out roots.

A pup will come out of one of the areoles in a month or two and it will continue growing normally.


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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7924567 - 01/24/08 02:57 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Holy shit man, good call.  Half were upsidedown :eek:

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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #7924588 - 01/24/08 03:01 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

:yesnod: :thumbup:


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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7927700 - 01/24/08 11:51 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

I like to lay center cuts on their side to root them.  They usually produce more branches faster that way.  Then you don't have to worry which end is up.  Well, after you eat them you might worry which end is up  :scat:  :royalrainbow:  :psychsplit:  :biggrin:


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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7928246 - 01/25/08 02:15 AM (16 years, 8 days ago)

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Make sure you plant it right side up...

It doesn't matter which way you plant them as far as rooting.  If there's a flatter end with fewer indentations on the top I might pick that to be on top so less water collects.  That could potentially lead to rot or mold.  If one end was cut on an angle I would put that up for the same reason.  Otherwise, it's not a big deal. 

As for planting on the side, I've spoken to a few people that said it didnt necessarily give them more growth.  I tried it with a few last summer and I didn't exactly have great results.  Perhaps after several years the growth rate might change...but within a single season it wasn't better for me.  I did it as part of another experiment I'm working on though.  :tongue: It will probably take a few years to work out.


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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: blazed123]
    #7931157 - 01/25/08 05:49 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

What's the experiment?


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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #7936250 - 01/26/08 05:24 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

Well they've been planted in an arid mix of perlite and cactus mix for a few days now.  I lifted a few out and have noticed mold growing on the bottom of them :sad:

Any advice to get rid of and keep away? Or is this ok?

Also, I have a few grow guides but they are lacking specifics, so if anyone has a good grow guide it would be appreciated.

:sanpedro:  .  :sanpedro:    .    :sanpedro:

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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #7936607 - 01/26/08 06:35 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

If they are soft and mushy, then they are rotting and you need to cut out the rot completely with a knife and re-callous them before replanting in dry soil. Rot will be soft and mushy, usually stink, and is dark green to black but also sometimes orange.

If it's just a bit of spotty mildew looking stuff on the callous and it's still firm that's nothing to worry about.

They'll probably take around a month to root so I would just leave them alone for a month before giving them a tug to check for roots.


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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: plainswalker]
    #7937279 - 01/26/08 08:40 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

Hey thanks.

If the end needs to be cut off can I simply flip it over, since it appears that roots are forming on both ends? Or should it callous before being replanted?


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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #7937374 - 01/26/08 08:59 PM (16 years, 6 days ago)

Right side up.


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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: plainswalker]
    #7939312 - 01/27/08 08:20 AM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Also make sure the ambient temperature is warm. At least in the eighties... this helps trigger the growth and gets a head start on mold. Usually I store the cuttings over winter and plant them as it starts to warm up.


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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: Psilopleix]
    #7940546 - 01/27/08 02:31 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

They will survive for a very long time out of soil, for best results be ABSOFRIGINLUTELY sure they are dried and calloused before planting them. If your not sure take them out of the soil until you are.


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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: ngnyus]
    #7940769 - 01/27/08 03:05 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

The end was hard and had a ring of white spikes protruding in a circle around the center (assumed to be roots).

They have been planted for about a week now and most have spots of mold where they were planted in the soil but so far they remain somewhat hard. The end will be cut off if it becomes soft and covered in mold and will be replanted in spring after they re-callous. Otherwise;
They are under lights until spring.
Water will be given when they look dry.
The temperature will remain at or above 80F.

Does this look good?
Would they like a fan on them?


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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #7940927 - 01/27/08 03:37 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Your soil is DRY right?


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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7940992 - 01/27/08 03:48 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Its not bone dry, it was somewhat moist when it was planted...


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Re: San Pedro Help [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #7941007 - 01/27/08 03:50 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

MAKE SURE IT'S DRY!!!!! COMPLETELY-BONE-DEAD-NO-RAIN-FOR-YEARSSS-DRY!


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