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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: Cubie]
#7923834 - 01/24/08 11:17 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Cubie said: Real or simulated it is still a child. Your brain is fuct man. Your sick and you need help. Make a post and tell everyone else you like childporn if you don't care what people think. I net you won't. You don't got the balls. And you do care what people think.
Real or simulated it is still a child?? Let me clear something up for you.
IS A CHILD:

IS NOT A CHILD:

IS A CHILD:

IS NOT A CHILD:

IS A CHILD:

IS *STILL* NOT A CHILD:

Any questions?
No, kiddie porn aint my cup of tea... and yes, I really really really dont (and please believe me when I say this) give two shits or a fuck about what you think in regards to me or anything else. Your personal attacks are also very weak.
Edited by Cancer (01/24/08 11:36 AM)
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Cubie
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: Cancer]
#7923852 - 01/24/08 11:24 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Your just mentally retarded.... I made a thread for you. Its in the ótd. Why don't you come in there so we can talk like gentlemen.....
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: Cubie]
#7923879 - 01/24/08 11:35 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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All for me, im honored I can get under your skin enough to elicit that sort of reaction. Cry me a river. Im not participating in that foolishness. Now hurry and an copy + paste this over there so you can rant some more about how you *think* im a pedo for defending right to thought. Seriously, what you lack in intellect, you certainly dont make up for in maturity. Im done with you, and unless you have some intellegent talking points to add to this discussion, I will continue to be done with you.
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: Cubie]
#7923924 - 01/24/08 11:56 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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I don't have a problem with punishing people who make child porn, but punishing people who possess it is an awful waste of resources.
Prison cells are expensive, we should reserve them for people who cross the line and actually cause a real person harm.
I only know one person who has intentionally possessed child porn - I dated her for a couple months. She was hot, blond, a real freak in every possible way. Though not a shroomery member, she is really into drugs and the taxonomy of mushrooms. She had a lot of porn on her computer, and even a special directory for child porn. She said the taboo aspect turned her on, and I am quite sure she never abused any kids.
She traded the child porn on p2p networks. I guess most people would say that she should go to prison for several years, but I think that would be quite a retarded waste of time and tax dollars.
I advised her to use PGP.
I doubt that watching child porn makes people abuse kids, its just using the children as an excuse to control what people do.
A very small percentage of the population will continue to abuse children sexually, porn or no child porn. This has always been the case and it always will be.
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password *DELETED* [Re: Cubie]
#7924126 - 01/24/08 12:52 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Is there really anything wrong with child porn? As long as the child isn't forced into it I don't see a problem at all. As long as their not hurting the child, what is wrong with it?
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: poke smot!]
#7924158 - 01/24/08 12:58 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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poke smot! said: That's great news! (the self-incrimination part). I've been following this since the case popped up in news articles some time ago.
Now, this does not prevent someone from infiltrating a system and using a key logger to capture the password. Has this not happened before with FBI investigations into hushmail communications?
thats entraptment and likewise wouldnt stand up in court. imo ide whipe the drive if i were him. thats why i encrypt all my files so that when the feds come a knockin i dont gotta make a break for the microwave.
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: THEBats]
#7924162 - 01/24/08 12:59 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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You are right and I agree, it is just an all around shitty situation IMO. My entire life I have had to deal with shit that happened when I was lil and no one fucked me so I can imagine what their lives are like. It is a real hot topic for me because I don't think they deserve the luxury of jail. They should be cut into pieces, an inch at a time, the cauterize it and give enough antibiotics to keep them from dying but rubb enough feces in the wounds to make it suck. No pain meds either. You just keep going til you run out of inches. At least a few good weeks of fun.
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: nk pakelika]
#7924218 - 01/24/08 01:17 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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nk pakelika said:
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poke smot! said: That's great news! (the self-incrimination part). I've been following this since the case popped up in news articles some time ago.
Now, this does not prevent someone from infiltrating a system and using a key logger to capture the password. Has this not happened before with FBI investigations into hushmail communications?
thats entraptment and likewise wouldnt stand up in court. imo ide whipe the drive if i were him. thats why i encrypt all my files so that when the feds come a knockin i dont gotta make a break for the microwave.
Putting a keylogger on someones computer is not entrapment. Entrapment only applies when police convince you to commit a crime that you wouldn't have committed if the cop didn't try to talk you into it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment
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Shamanintraining said: Is there really anything wrong with child porn? As long as the child isn't forced into it I don't see a problem at all. As long as their not hurting the child, what is wrong with it?
It might be hard to have a normal adult sex life if you were in porn as a child.
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: Cubie]
#7924363 - 01/24/08 02:06 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Cubie said: I think if you have child porn they should be able to do what they want. Then they should let a whole prison population butt raped the kidfucker
However this guy did say to the police that he may have downloaded child porn... I dont know about you but ive downloaded gigs of info from some hosts before without knowing what the files truly were. Sometimes you open the files and bam theres a 14 year old girl suckin cock.... definately not intentional, and theyre always deleted afterwards (i dont want that illegal shit on my computer), but still maybe that guy didnt even know what he had...
If I were in a situation where I was unaware of what the material I downloaded might contain, I would probably not divulge the information either.
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: Cubie]
#7925408 - 01/24/08 05:42 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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-------------------- He did not laugh as his eyes stopped in awareness of the earth around him. His face was like a law of nature-a thing one could not question, alter or implore. It had high cheekbones over gaunt, hollow cheeks; gray eyes, cold and steady; a contemptuous mouth, shut tight, the mouth of an executioner or a saint. If you wake up at a different time in a different place, can you wake up a different person? Cf. A.C. Doyle "I'll rise above this, you can't keep me down, for I am Divine, and I know it all too well."
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: ManianFH]
#7925813 - 01/24/08 07:02 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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End up with all kinds of bullshits on this piece, dawg.
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: Cowgold]
#7926350 - 01/24/08 08:19 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Whats wrong with yall?
The real issue isn't the porn, its your right to lock something away and not have anyone be able to read it.
The porn is nothing but a media grab to take more of your rights away from you.
Can this protect people who do bad things? unfortunitly yes.
Can this protect people who don't do bad things? yes.
Also just to point out the hypocrisy, the feds attempting to break his password would be a violation of the DMCA, that prevents you from tampering with any sort of digital security device, software or hardware.
The real question is, how much do any of you like the idea of living in a police state? even more of a police state than the USA has already become?
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: wolfiexiii]
#7927631 - 01/24/08 11:41 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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> The real question is, how much do any of you like the idea of living in a police state? even more of a police state than the USA has already become?
Exactly.
It is sick and twisted for the government to require that you give up your passwords.
The powers that be understand that it is sick and twisted; that is why they like it.
When governments try this trick, they always run up against people who write programs that allow for several decryption keys which decrypt different data or no data at all - So it is impossible to prove that there is data that is not being divulged.
What if you encrypt a bunch of files on your HD - But set the encryption key to be a bunch of random keys you type when you bang your head on the keyboard. Should it be illegal to do this, knowing that you would never be able to help law enforcement decrypt the files, even if you wanted to?
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#7927817 - 01/25/08 12:27 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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> The real question is, how much do any of you like the idea of living in a police state? even more of a police state than the USA has already become?
A: It scares the hell outta me.
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: Cancer]
#7928297 - 01/25/08 02:34 AM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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When I was 14 I use to download porn of other people in my age group having sex from IRC onto my moms computer. Had I gotten caught my mom likely would have ended up in trouble over it, and she never even knew I was doing it!
Point being in those days it just seemed natural to me, I wished I could be having sex, and hot damn there was pics of people my age having sex with each other. Sometimes I would pm other traders and chat with them, the people who look at childporn might give you a surprise. Here is the general profile I ran into:
Male in his 30's, has children. Professes not to abuse children and has no desire to, nor fantasies about children he knows. Was abused as a child. Relives fantasizes about that abuse and uses the porn as an aid in that fantasy. Feels really guilty about it.
Now don't get me wrong, I did run into a few people that were sickos(I was kind of a lucky idiot that nothing ever happened) the vast majority of those people weren't the sick fuckers that you'd think they were.
It's not about pot users continuing onto heroin. Adults who are into child porn are obviously hooked on something heavy(and are in need of mental help), but the question is whether one will knowingly victimize another to achieve that high is an entirely different story. As with any drug, there are casual users and remorseless fiends, similarly to drugs it makes more sense as a society to focus on removing victimizers rather than simply locking some one up because they have a disease.
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: MyOwnReality]
#7928312 - 01/25/08 02:41 AM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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<- Wants to note that he is in his early twenties, has no children and no desire to have any, in either sense of the word 'have.' Though sometimes I do relive the glories of my highschool years(yeah I got tail in highschool) in my fantasies. Wait, now does that make me a pedo?
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Re: Judge Rules: Man Can't Be Forced To Divulge His Password [Re: MyOwnReality]
#7928438 - 01/25/08 03:57 AM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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I agree the bigger issue is that the judge ruled that the man didnt have to hand over his pass phrase which was pirate information within his mind.
Atleast 1 judge has the balls to uphold the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights.
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