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Re: 2007TU24 -- We are so fucked [Re: Cubie]
    #7926188 - 01/24/08 07:57 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Aye, asteroid deflection... isn't that what the moon does? Fucks the trajectory of meteors and comets up w/ its large gravitational pull? It's strong enough to make the oceans move...


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Re: 2007TU24 -- We are so fucked [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO]
    #7926425 - 01/24/08 08:29 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

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Keep it real though, being wiped out by an asteroid would be a fucking awesome way to die




No! For most people, almost all of them, it would suck to no end. They will not see the impact, all they would notice is that the earths outdoor temperature slowly rises to several hundred degrees and they will all slowly bake to death over the course of several hours. Those who manage to hide underground will live in total darkness for generations and starve and fall pray to infectious diseases. Being wiped out by an asteroid only is cool when you're at ground zero and being swallowed up by the fireball.

With smaller asteroids like the Tuesday special, 4 out of five affected people will have severe burns all over their bodies. A multi-megaton explosion, be it nuclear or an asteroid, first and foremost is an incendiary bomb of apocalyptic proportions. You will be rolling around with burning clothes on a hotplate pavement minutes before the blast wave will arrive to hopefully knock you unconscious.

Much of the energy thats equivalent to 100.000 Hiroshima bombs shall be released as heat, just like with a thermonuclear weapon.

Being wiped out be an asteroid is about as awesome as being locked into an oven which is then turned on.

To everyone who wants humanity to die by asteroid if we can prevent it, hey I guess you're seriously lacking in survivor mentality.

If we manage to deflect a multi-kilometer asteroid, our debt to mother nature is paid in full :thumbup:

And I'm not human-centric here. Life itself speciates itself into all sorts of species. They all have their use. Plants provide oxygen for animals. Flies keep cadaver buildup in check. Lions pick out the weaker and wounded herbivores. To me its not an unreasonable thought that Life gave use our brains to use it for the benefit, not just for ourselves, but for the benefit of Life itself. Once we have a stabilized society, colonizing space would inevitably be next. Spreading life among the stars, terraforming planets and deflecting asteroids would advance the agenda of Life itself, and we're the only species yet who can make this happen, and which dreams of doing that.

All our vices committed in the infancy of our species are a trifle if we can get it done.


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Re: 2007TU24 -- We are so fucked [Re: memes]
    #7926504 - 01/24/08 08:39 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

What's Mkm? Million kilometers? We are not going to be affected by this in any way.


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Re: 2007TU24 -- We are so fucked [Re: demiu5]
    #7926531 - 01/24/08 08:43 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

I WILL NOT ROLL OVER AND DIE WHEN SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT :crankey:


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are you saying that evolution even has a purpose?




Evolution is self-serving. You shouldn't think of individual species, you should think of the Life Force on earth that are all the decendants of that one cell in the primordial soup.

The Life Force seeks to colonize every inhabitable nook and cranny, and populate it with the greatest diversity of species it can manage.

If you look at it like this, our dream of colonizing space is directly fed to us by the Life Force. We are a carrier species, intended to take the Life Force to new places to colonize that it could not colonize before.

If we terraform planets, the vast majority of what will live there won't be humans. We'll take ants, worms, rabbits, oak trees, molds, fungi, bacteria, horses, dandelions, lobsters. If we make colonies and later on terraform planets we will inhabit it with all sorts of earth life to create an ecosystem. These species will evolve into beings that are not of this earth, but adapted to their new homeworlds.

The Life Force wouldn't want it any other way. We should stop the whole silly war thing and focus on how we, as a species, can serve the  Life Force to the best of our abilities, just like any other species does.

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this is religious fanatic bullshit.




No God or Religion is needed for this philosophy. Simple logic will tell you what Life's agenda is, and what we can do to further it. No supernatural stuff needed.


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Re: 2007TU24 -- We are so fucked [Re: Asante]
    #7926569 - 01/24/08 08:47 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Go see Cloverfield and then tell me you wouldn't actually want to protect us from a comet. After reading the effects of a comet hitting earth in W_S's post, that sounds way more like a terrible terrible nightmare than a "cool way to go out".


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Re: 2007TU24 -- We are so fucked [Re: Asante]
    #7926573 - 01/24/08 08:47 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

i wonder if other planets were once like earth with people on it and then got destroy by an asteroid.

what is this "black matter" they say holds things in outer space together?  i once heard that a white flash is a bad ghost and a black flash is a good ghost...could the "black matter" good god?  :confused:


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Re: 2007TU24 -- We are so fucked [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7926636 - 01/24/08 08:55 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

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What's Mkm? Million kilometers? We are not going to be affected by this in any way.




Yup. This thread isn't about the asteroid itself (which to all likelyness will miss us) but about the fact about how we dropped the ball in only discovering it 110 days, and confirming its trajectory just 56 days, before its possible impact.

We really dropped the ball on that one. With that little time left there would be nothing sane we could do to deflect it, other than sending a nuke and have all religions pray for us.

We need to better fund the scientists who detect them, and get a system in place to get rid of inbound asteroids. Its not the scientists' fault, they are getting dick to work with while we waste our capital on weapons of war rather than spend it on guarding the biggest asset we have: planet earth.


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