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creative input!
    #7922302 - 01/23/08 10:31 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I need some help on a humanities project. I've selected an excerpt from chapter 2 of the bhagavad gita, and need to recite it, talk about it, blah blah blah. Anyways, the third step here is what i am having a problem with.

THE THREE PARTS:
1. Select and memorize 10-15 lines from a piece that we read in Humanities this fall.
2. Orally present how that excerpt should be interpreted within its context (ex: How would a
Hindu interpret an excerpt from the Ramayana?) In the three-step hermeneutical process, this
part of the project emanates from the first step.
3. Develop and construct a creative piece to illustrate your personal reflection on the excerpt. In
the three-step hermeneutical process, this part of the project emanates from the third step.(You
will also use the second step of the three-step hermeneutical process in developing your
project.)

Any input on an idea for a creative peace to illustrate would be great! Dont worry about being specific to my ideas and or the excerpt, I'm just looking for a broad, general illustrative idea that i can elaborate on.


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Re: creative input! [Re: IslandShroomer]
    #7922327 - 01/23/08 10:36 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

make a diorama


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Re: creative input! [Re: nightkrawler]
    #7922352 - 01/23/08 10:39 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

thats the thing though, I always do a diorama, and while they aren't hard to do and get the job done well, I'm trying to think of something outside the box.


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Re: creative input! [Re: IslandShroomer]
    #7922394 - 01/23/08 10:46 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Well provide me a few things.

1.) What is YOUR opinion of this and what do you plan to focus on intently

2.) a little more general info



I would say it would be cool to do small ritualistic stuff fro meach and comapre them or get the students involved in a demonstration to exemplify why the two are different and why they are seen as so ect.

Or if you cant do something like that make a gay ass powerpoint.


I'd like to hear more details about the project and your standpoint/belief regarding it because then I can think of soemthing fun for you to do with it


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Re: creative input! [Re: Brain Fart]
    #7922721 - 01/23/08 11:57 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Quote:

You have a right to your actions,
but never to your actions' fruits.
Act for the action's sake,
and do not be attached to inaction.

Self possessed, resolute, act
without any thought of results,
open to success or failure.
This equanimity is yoga.

Action is far inferior
to the yoga of insight, Arjuna.
Pitiful are those who, acting,
are attached to their action's fruits.

The wise man lets go of all results,
whether good or bad,
and is focused on the action alone.
Yoga is skill in action.

The wise man whose insight is firm,
relinquishing the fruits of action,
is freed from the bondage of rebirth
and attains the place beyond sorrow.

When your understanding has passed
beyond the thicket of delusions,
there is nothing you need to learn
from even the most sacred scripture.




In the Bhagavad Gita, the idea of selflessness seems to play a prominent role. I think the idea of action without the thought of results is a prominent example of this. It takes away the ability for someone to do or not do something based on whether they themselves think it is right, or what they think is best for themselves. However, there are aspects to this style of thinking that I do not agree with. If a person is to act without thought of results, action could lead to negative results for not only the individual, but could also have negative consequences for others. Also, we discussed in class how inaction is sometimes the best course of action. It seems unnecessary to “act for action's sake” when inaction is the best route. Also, I was puzzled as to whether inaction could possibly be a course of action, or if inaction is the route one takes when they think about the possible results of a certain action. If the latter is the case, then I think it is necessary to at times contemplate the fruit's of your action, and to be attached to inaction.


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Re: creative input! [Re: IslandShroomer]
    #7925623 - 01/24/08 06:19 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Bump-cause i still need help!


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Re: creative input! [Re: IslandShroomer]
    #7943422 - 01/27/08 11:56 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Sorry dude, havent been able to get on, and now its 1 A.M. and I just stopped in to send a PM.

I'll post some help tomorrow promise!

Edit: Fuck it, I'll stay up let's brainstorm.


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Re: creative input! [Re: Brain Fart]
    #7943474 - 01/28/08 12:08 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Ha, i wish i could draw, then i would do like a comparative painting/drawing.

I think I do want something that is comparitive, or shows both aspects of action/inaction. Probably something that incorporates the idea of selflessness. I feel like that is very important. The gita really stresses the point of non attachment.


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Re: creative input! [Re: IslandShroomer]
    #7943484 - 01/28/08 12:11 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

YEAH GOT IT MAN! so check this out.

I'll somehow illustrate action and actions fruits . . . . . and the actions fruits will be attached to action, but they will at the same time be holding action back. And then there will be a way to break action and actions fruits apart . . . and by acting without thoughts of actings fruits . . . you are free!

Haha kind of corny but its an idea.


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Re: creative input! [Re: Brain Fart]
    #7943489 - 01/28/08 12:11 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Acting just for actions sake is definately not always a good thing.

In means of staying active and not letting things pass you by it's good.

In a matter of situation where action could potentially harm something when there is no reason for action, it's bad.



Edit: Beat me to posting this lol



Should some american soldiers kill innocent iraqi civilians just because they didn't get to kill any actual terrorists that day and they don't want to kill nothing?

I mean thats a crude example but you already know what I'm talking about.

I would find certain situations that you could apply this to in the real world and explain/show them to the class visually.

Display your point and find a way to visually express what your saying to the class. Visual learning is most often best recieved.


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Re: creative input! [Re: Brain Fart]
    #7943502 - 01/28/08 12:15 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Hey, I practice Buddhism so I know all about this..

Dukkha is the word used to describe suffering.

Dukkha is caused by attachment. Nothing in our world is permanent, so to become attached to it is to suffer because eventually you will lose it.

As well, desire creates Dukkha because it is always driving you.



To escape suffering you must escape attachment and desire. We do this by focusing on others and not ourselves.

Thus, in doing so you reach enlightenment.


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Re: creative input! [Re: Brain Fart]
    #7943509 - 01/28/08 12:17 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Do something like..


There is a tree with the fruits. The tree represents action or whatever you wanna do and the fruits represent the fruits.

When you pick the fruits fro mthe tree they become singular and independent from whatever..

Ypu know what I mean although no one else will...lol


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Re: creative input! [Re: Brain Fart]
    #7943541 - 01/28/08 12:26 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Thats good, i've studied Buddhism a bit recently, it would be good to relate that too . . . even though the Gita is a Hindu scripture, I think if i went back and read the eightfold path and the four noble truths and some of the underlying things it would probably help me out.

Alright, visual aid simplistic is can be so far: Balloon, bowl of fruit, string. Label the Balloon action, bowl of fruit actions fruit, and tie balloon to bowl of fruit. The balloon may or may not be a representaion of a person or maybe atman. SO, the bowl of fruit (action with thought of outcome) holds down the balloon. But when you cut your ties to actions fruits (cuts balloon free as it sails off into the sky) you break free from some of the restraints, suffering,


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Re: creative input! [Re: IslandShroomer]
    #7943546 - 01/28/08 12:28 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

no i can see the tree idea, i get where you are going


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Re: creative input! [Re: IslandShroomer]
    #7944962 - 01/28/08 11:49 AM (16 years, 4 days ago)

I like the idea with the balloon..Much more visual then a drawing ect ect.

It will be an excellent demo and I LOVE it. very good idea.


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Re: creative input! [Re: Brain Fart]
    #7945037 - 01/28/08 12:08 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

CASE CLOSED! YAY! Ha and i have a whole free day to work on it, no school due to snow. I think the balloon is going have a bunch of key explorations and ideas written on it that are important in the Gita/Hinduism. Im excited for the demo now, its always nice to be confident in your work and knowing you have something that is good to present and allow other people to see.


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Re: creative input! [Re: IslandShroomer]
    #7945106 - 01/28/08 12:23 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Damn Straight:thumbup:

You better tell me about how you got an A.:tongue2:


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