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abuse of psychedelics
    #7922109 - 01/23/08 09:57 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Well, its been fun. But I am going a month or more without tripping balls. Maybe I never will trip again. I need to clear my mind and de-fry for a little bit.

I think you can abuse psychedelics. Even if you don't go nuts. You can cheapen the experience. And when totally comprehending the universe gets cheapened; thats an extremely sad thing.

But hey. The world is still an interesting place even with the filters enabled. These filters on the mind are not bad things by themselves. They help us progress and grow and see even newer amazing things. And the amazement and fulfillment that we get when looking at a plant in 'shrooms is only a small subset of the spectrum of ways to blow your mind.


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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: fushock]
    #7922139 - 01/23/08 10:01 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Soberness is a high in its own right, a perspective worth exploring. Never say never again though.


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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7922318 - 01/23/08 10:34 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I think im beginning to abuse psychedelics. And it makes me sad. I used to look forward to a trip so that i could learn things about myself and the universe that i live in. Now it's just another toy that i play with to keep me happy. It's starting to disgust me a little, i need to get back into the spirit i began with. Because i love tripping, i dont see any reason that i should give it up, i need need to realize the meaning of it again. I've gotten lost in the acid shuffle!


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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: Dagnus]
    #7922326 - 01/23/08 10:36 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Once you have those moments, it's totally the time to take a break, put distance between yourself and your chemicals, and re-evaluate your relationship with them. Don't be saddened by it, but strengthened by the knowledge that your future experiences will benefit from your dedication to making them matter more and mean more.


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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7922462 - 01/23/08 10:57 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I got a DUI citation, which prevented me from tripping for over a month. I just didn't think it would be smart to trip with a court date looming above my head like the sword of Damocles.

The weekend after the court date (at which all charges against me were dropped and I got to keep my license) I ate five hits of acid, and had one of the most elucidating trips of my life.


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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7922704 - 01/23/08 11:54 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I really enjoy being sober, ever since I started tripping. So much so that I have almost completely stopped drinking (except for beer in
moderation since there is nothing quite like a really good beer) and smoking weed which just makes me hazzy anymore.

Sober is definitely worth checking out for a while. You need a while I find to really get the hang of it.

Plus i find there is a pretty fine line between sober and no longer sober but not on drugs if you know what I mean. It's easy to get caught
up in the day to day stuff so that you start to lose sight of whats real. thats why psychedelics are great as occasional (for me once
every few months, or maybe tri/bi-annually) reality checks. which seems weird, but it's true, drugs are some of the best reality checks out there.


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    #7923235 - 01/24/08 07:14 AM (16 years, 8 days ago)

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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: Chronic7]
    #7923376 - 01/24/08 08:30 AM (16 years, 8 days ago)

That's why you only trip when you feel the call, for me at most every 2 months or so. I've been tripping for like 2 1/2 years and each trip is just as mind blowing as the first.


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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: g00ru]
    #7923603 - 01/24/08 09:58 AM (16 years, 8 days ago)

yes very true, also when you trip almost every time for me it brings on such wonder and curiosity! It really sucks when i take too long of a break and lose some off my wonders for life. It makes me feel like i have nothing left to live for but when i trip again it brings it all back. Another chance at life, kind of a viscous cycle though. Whatever, it is what it is. Life is a one shot deal so get it in when you can, never wait for the next moment cause you might not get a chance to make it that far. :owl:


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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: VisualLearner]
    #7923637 - 01/24/08 10:11 AM (16 years, 8 days ago)

I abused mushrooms when I first started learning about them, tripping at least weekly for months.

And then I took a 2 year break from all drugs except alcohol (used on average once or twice a month) and nicotine (for about 3 months). It helped a lot with my depression and other problems.

But then I started getting back into drugs over the past year and my psychological problems came back and now I'm trying to find the balance between abuse/dependency/destructive habits and healthy/recreational/balanced use.

It's very hard sometimes =(


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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: ryanvergel]
    #7923737 - 01/24/08 10:44 AM (16 years, 8 days ago)

you know,
you get into your stuff, whatever it is, and it is hard.
if you use psyches or not
if you use alcohol or not
if you have a job or not
if you go to school or not

it's always a challenge.
in some way, and different for each person, so it might be easy to see that soandso doesn't have THIS trouble
and you might wonder "so why do I???"

but that is not the issue really

we have our own trouble with or without the psyches
but too much of anything is definitely too much.


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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: fushock]
    #7923901 - 01/24/08 11:47 AM (16 years, 8 days ago)

"Abusing" mushrooms has led me to appreciate sobriety more than ever. I used to sometimes go through an ounce in a week. After a while it felt as though some other entity took over my body and mind and would speak through me. It was a completely different energy being experienced. In the long run that experience helped me to understand much about myself, so there was some abuse to it and some benefit. In the long run it has been purely benefit and I have never regretted any of it.


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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: deranger]
    #7923961 - 01/24/08 12:08 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

One summer when I first discovered LSD I would eat a hit every 3 days or so. The source we had was unbelievably reliable and we didn't have shit to do cause it was summer vacation.

After that summer, I realized how you shouldn't trip as often as I did. Now, I space my trips out at least a month and I've noticed the "magic" being stronger than it would if I ate it every other day.

Everything in moderation. Even psychedelics.


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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: fushock]
    #7923980 - 01/24/08 12:15 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Taking time off can definitely be a good thing. Sobriety is fun in and of itself. After all, you don't have to be tripping balls in order to enjoy contemplating the universe. This is where philosophy comes in for me.


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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: vigilant_mind]
    #7924681 - 01/24/08 03:18 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Dude. It's been seven months since I tripped - and not because I couldnt.

You guys are pansies :tongue:

Just kidding. I am dying to trip. :crazy2:

I've been through periods of abuse as well, but only with acid. I was doing it weekly.

Still tripped my balls off everytime, but it started to become a "party" thing in the end, and I don't advocate such use of psychadelics. AT ALL.

They are sacred tools to be respected for their power over us.

However, I believe everyone has a period of abuse, it's a period of naivity that is overcome by those who are mature and wise enough to overcome the human compulsion of excessive consumption.


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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: manyc]
    #7924755 - 01/24/08 03:32 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

I trip pretty often, generally every weekend or two. I used to worry that it was too often, that I was abusing the sacraments, but I have become more comfortable with it; my life is going rather well at the moment, and I don't use psychs as a coping mechanism for anything (in fact, I tend to abstain more when my life is not going well). My frequency has more to do with my fascination with everything psychedelic. And virtually every trip I have is at least as elucidating and beautiful as the first, if not more so. Experience is a wonderful guide.

Psychedelics seem to work best when you give yourself the necessary time to digest the massive food for thought a good trip will give you, and that can be anywhere from a day to years. It varies from person to person and context to context. Only you can truly know what's right for yourself.


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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: manyc]
    #7924959 - 01/24/08 04:19 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

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manyc said:
Still tripped my balls off everytime, but it started to become a "party" thing in the end, and I don't advocate such use of psychadelics. AT ALL.

They are sacred tools to be respected for their power over us.





I don't necessarily agree - yes they are a very powerful medicine and can be incredibly healing in countless ways - therefore deserving maximum respect - but if you can't also have a bit of light hearted fun from time to time then I think you could be missing a whole different 'point of view' which psyches can teach you....


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Re: abuse of psychedelics [Re: _OttO_]
    #7925755 - 01/24/08 06:52 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Well.. I feel like I've been through that phase and my relationship with entheogens has matured into something more spiritual... almost religious. But they have also taught me to question everything - even the validity of the experience they give me.

For me, psychadelic experience = spiritual experience.

Honestly though, once my harvest comes in, I'm going to be tripping once a month - every full moon. Every trip can't help but have a whimsical and light-hearted feeling about it. Except of course when I'm death trippin. That's a whole different dimension.


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