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casgoodie
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Cacti ID request again non ethno, maybe
#7921937 - 01/23/08 09:16 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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 these are my new air plant, pretty nice, i tied them to a piece of driftwood

the one on the left i think might be pilosocereus azureus, the middle one was labeled as blue myrtle (?) and the opuntia i have no idea, maybe a variety of basilaris?
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Re: Cacti ID request again non ethno, maybe [Re: casgoodie]
#7921945 - 01/23/08 09:18 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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In the 2nd pic-
First one is Myrtillocactus geometrizans.
The 2nd one is a Pilocereus spp.
The 3rd is Optunia spp.
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Edited by FarFromHere (01/23/08 09:19 PM)
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plainswalker
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Re: Cacti ID request again non ethno, maybe [Re: FarFromHere]
#7922045 - 01/23/08 09:41 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Yeah you have the left and the middle one mixed up.
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casgoodie
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Re: Cacti ID request again non ethno, maybe [Re: plainswalker]
#7922058 - 01/23/08 09:46 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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wow. the left one i got unlabeled. so its a blue myrtle? looks different from my other ones. the center one had a myrtillocactus label, obviously wrong.
any exact species for the opuntia?
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casgoodie
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Re: Cacti ID request again non ethno, maybe [Re: casgoodie]
#7922121 - 01/23/08 09:58 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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i have a question:
from two mature speciemens of diffusa and williamsii is it possible to tell them apart?
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Re: Cacti ID request again non ethno, maybe [Re: casgoodie]
#7922176 - 01/23/08 10:08 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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L. diffusa is a far rarer species named after its rib habit. It has diffuse ribs (meaning they are not clean-cut ribs as found in the L. williamsii sub species) which tend to have a somewhat 'pinecone' look with the rib pattern. The epidermis (skin) is a lighter green, bordering on a yellowish tinge. Flowers are very similar to that of L. williamsii, but can have a yellow/green/white colouring. The main compound found in L. diffusa is pellotine and mescaline levels are very low.
L. williamsii is by far the most common, streching across most of the Lophophora habitat. This is commonly known as peyote, and contains various psychoactive compounds, the main and most active being mescaline. L. williamsii is also one of the easiest to identify. The distinctive ribbing in older specimens is usually vertical or spiralling, with most plants starting with five ribs and developing up to thirteen with maturity. Flowers are pale pink with shorter petals than the other sub species. All sub species will clump with age (though some individual plants tend to stay singular for their lifetimes), but L. williamsii forma caespitosa (seen in the central photo below) tends to pup at a very young age and can carpet a large area in its lifetime.
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casgoodie
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Re: Cacti ID request again non ethno, maybe [Re: Mankey]
#7922207 - 01/23/08 10:15 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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thanks, i've seen pics of both species and still can't notice the difference in ribs, i guess with more experience i'll get it.
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Re: Cacti ID request again non ethno, maybe [Re: casgoodie]
#7922210 - 01/23/08 10:16 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Ya, probably. I'm a cacti n00b as well.
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casgoodie
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Re: Cacti ID request again non ethno, maybe [Re: Mankey]
#7922250 - 01/23/08 10:22 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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so heres another one, i have some random lophs. about the size of a pencil eraser, can i graft them to something other than pereskiopsis, like columnar cacti or opuntia?
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Re: Cacti ID request again non ethno, maybe [Re: casgoodie]
#7923882 - 01/24/08 11:38 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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In the photo with the columnar cactus the first cactus is a stenocereus pruinosus not myrtillocactus,if that helps you any
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Re: Cacti ID request again non ethno, maybe [Re: hul gil]
#7923966 - 01/24/08 12:12 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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You are correct Hul Gil!
Good job!
Sorry for the incorrect ID!
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casgoodie
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Re: Cacti ID request again non ethno, maybe [Re: FarFromHere]
#7924007 - 01/24/08 12:22 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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yes it does help, i still wasn't convinced it was a myrtle
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Re: Cacti ID request again non ethno, maybe [Re: casgoodie]
#7924052 - 01/24/08 12:34 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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good eye
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casgoodie
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Re: Cacti ID request again non ethno, maybe [Re: plainswalker]
#7924135 - 01/24/08 12:53 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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guesses still wlecome on the opuntia
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