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Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue
#7920884 - 01/23/08 05:46 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Some guy bought an item from me, paying $400 about 6 months ago. Money was sent, item was received, deal ended.
Dec 24th, I receive an email from Paypal stating that the cardholder had issued a "chargeback," meaning they're claiming they did not authorize the money to be sent in the first place, and are taking their money back. Paypal says in the email that they deal with these situations commonly, and will contest the chargeback on my behalf. I also have kept the shipping # from the package, and a message history which confirms that the item was received and everything was proper, and I send these in to Paypal as proof of the legitimacy of the transaction.
Because I was baffled about why this is happening, I contact the buyer, whom I had not really spoken to since the transaction ended. It turns out that he did not in fact issue the chargeback, but that he had used Paypal's buyer credit to send me the money, but then failed to pay his bill to Paypal and so they locked his account and reversed all his transactions. So, while the buyer screwed Paypal, Paypal is now trying to screw me to compensate for their losses from the buyer - as if I'm responsible for their mistake.
I phoned Paypal customer support, who insist that the buyer's to blame for screwing both me and them over, using a fake tone of sympathy, refusing to accept that them reversing a valid transaction on a third party is fully their own responsibility.
Thank God I had $0 in my Paypal account at the time, so all they could do was make my credit $-400. So now I'm being blackmailed by Paypal, who says that if I don't pay the $400, which someone else owes them, I won't be able to use my account anymore, and further, after reading up about these cases online, I can predict that the next move of theirs will be threatening to sue for the funds. I have already received my first reminder, in which they trust I will happily comply, and that it was just an honest mistake on my part. 
Oh well, at least I can look forward to Paypal fairly arguing my case for me against the credit company (Paypal) for me. I'm sure that tracking # and message history I gave to them will come in real handy there... because it's not like they're the prosecuter and judge at the same time.
The customer rep basically said it's unfair that the buyer is putting me through all this ( ) and said that I can claim mail fraud against them. I don't know how I could claim mail fraud since the transaction that took place between the two of us was perfectly legit, and smooth. I'm not fighting Paypal's battle over the credit they gave this guy for them, especially with them trying to extort me. I'd much rather sue Paypal, to be perfectly honest. Any ideas for damage claims, legal knowledge, etc? Help me sue the stupid thuggish asshole known as Paypal.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die [Re: Disco Cat]
#7920896 - 01/23/08 05:48 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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I hate shit like this. It's frustrating just to read.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die [Re: g00ru]
#7920923 - 01/23/08 05:55 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Paypal
Yeah, honestly, there are a lot of scammers there on ebay.
It's really hard to tell who's at fault but Paypal is in it for the money and they're sure as hell not going to take that loss either way.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die [Re: Bandersnatch]
#7920945 - 01/23/08 06:00 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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No, it's really easy to tell who's at fault here. If a credit card company issues someone a credit card, and that person uses that credit card to buy a friend lunch for her birthday and then fails to pay the credit company back, the credit card company can't go to the girl who had lunch bought for her and extort her to cover the debt of the person they issued the card to.
Again, if a credit company gives credit to a person, and that person buys an amp with that credit then fails to pay the credit company back, the credit company can't extort the store from which the person bought the amp to compensate for the debt of the person they issued the credit to.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die [Re: Disco Cat]
#7920957 - 01/23/08 06:02 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Quote:
Disco Cat said: No, it's really, really easy to tell who's at fault here. If a credit card company issues someone a credit card, and that person uses that credit card to buy a friend lunch for her birthday and then fails to pay the credit company back, the credit card company can't go to the girl who had lunch bought for her and extort her to cover the debt of the person they issued the card to.
Again, if a credit company gives credit to a person, and that person buys an amp with that credit then fails to pay the credit company back, the credit company can't extort the store which the person bought the amp from to compensate for the debt of the person they issued the credit to.
I meant that it is fairly easy to rip someone off using Paypal... I believe you if you think that's not the case though.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die [Re: Bandersnatch]
#7920966 - 01/23/08 06:04 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Oh, sorry.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die [Re: Disco Cat]
#7920967 - 01/23/08 06:04 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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that really sucks disco.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#7921040 - 01/23/08 06:22 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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call paypal ask to speak to a supervisor and tell them if its not fixed YOU will take legal action against THEM. Talk to a lawyer and threaten them with it.
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Edited by sui (01/23/08 06:22 PM)
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die [Re: sui]
#7921113 - 01/23/08 06:36 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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I had something similar happen, where UPS broke something sent and then the buyer said it was broke to begin with, and now I'm stuck with broken electronics and having to send the money back, its fucking rediculous.
paypal makes you travel to santa monica and all this nonsense if you wanna take anything to court.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die [Re: snoot]
#7921195 - 01/23/08 06:54 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Find a lawyer to draw up a cheap cease and desist letter.
If they keep harassing you, you can go to small claims court to get a cease and desist order.
But Paypal seems to think it operates above all banking regulation, so don't expect the C&D letter to really do anything, but it gives you standing to file a C&D order.
edit: Thanks for the reminder to drain my Paypal account.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die [Re: YidakiMan]
#7921401 - 01/23/08 07:39 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Every so often Paypal freezes my account for no reason under the pretenses of ... 'Your website is selling products that violate our terms of use policy'. The thing is.. I dont have anywebsites, nor have I ever used my paypal acct to sell anything. These guys suck, and they dont know thier asses from a hole in the ground.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#7921454 - 01/23/08 07:48 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Wow, this is fucked up. If everything is the way you say it is, then I can't understand how in the world they could hold you responsible for this. It makes no sense.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#7921628 - 01/23/08 08:25 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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I made $70 in referrals from PayPal when they first started. They paid me $5 for each referral.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#7921728 - 01/23/08 08:39 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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that really sucks man. paypal is the scum of the earth. i had a similar situation happen to me.
a year and a half ago i was big into selling world of warcraft accounts (laugh all you want, but i could buy them for 300-400 and sell them two weeks later for a hundred bucks profit with no work at all) and lost about $1200 when someone used a hacked paypal account to purchase one from me. some dumbass lady had a keylogger on her system and an asian guy got her password and bought one of my auctions, and when she filed a chargeback request they just took the money out of my account without any notice until it was gone. i ended up getting an overdraft fee too because ebay was set to automatically bill my paypal account for seller fee's and i didn't realise my account was empty so it hit my bank account.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#7968118 - 02/02/08 10:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is an email I just received from Paypal:
Dear ************,
Recently your PayPal account balance has fallen below zero. To ensure uninterrupted access to your PayPal account, please bring your balance to zero or a positive amount.
To add funds to your account: 1. Log in to your PayPal account. 2. Click "Restore Your Balance". 3. Follow the instructions to transfer funds to your PayPal account.
If your account shows that you owe money because of an open complaint, you can visit the Resolution Center to resolve the issue as soon as possible.
To access the Resolution Center: 1. Log in to your PayPal account. 2. Click the "Resolution Center" subtab on your Account Overview. 3. All open complaints will be listed.
If you have already added funds to your account and brought your balance to at least zero, please disregard this message.
We appreciate your cooperation and invite you to reply to this email with any questions.
Sincerely, PayPal
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My calm and collected response contained the phrase "shut the fuck up" thrice.
If anyone still comes up with ideas to help a legal case against Paypal, let me know.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#7968141 - 02/02/08 10:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The fine print in your paypal agreement gives them a license to steal, and essentially makes them a co-account holder on your bank account. It also says you won't sue them, and agree to come to their home city to settle any legal issues. Therefore, if you try to go to small claims court, they can simply ignore any judgement because it violates the agreement you signed. As said, they have a license to steal, and ebay is in on it too. The fees at ebay are so high, no legitimate business is going to conduct affairs there, so it becomes a place to sell worn out junk and to fence stolen merchandise. Sorry to say it, but you're screwed. RR
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7968154 - 02/02/08 10:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Im glad i have never used my pay-pal account, i was paranoid about giving them my checking account # anyway, I like to use money orders, they are safe and no one can get your credit/debit card number or your bank account #'s.
Edited by Skunk420 (02/02/08 10:51 AM)
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#7968478 - 02/02/08 12:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would just say fuck it, take all your money out of all (and close) bank accounts so they can't fuck you in anyway. It would be a hassle, but it's the smart thing to do! Ignore it!
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7970045 - 02/02/08 07:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you close an account knowing full well that there will be an automated debit, the prosecutor could easily charge you with check deception.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: YidakiMan]
#7970055 - 02/02/08 07:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Paypal's customer service is fucking useless. For some reason I couldn't receive the confirmation email required to claim money. The stupid cunt told me to finish the transaction outside of ebay.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: YidakiMan]
#7970137 - 02/02/08 07:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Finishing transaction outside ebay is best policy sometimes
I have a seperate bank account that I never have more than $50 in linked to my ebay account I would suggest everyone using ebay do the same this offers some protection.
Actually I feel paypal offers good buyer protection everytime I've filed a legit claim with a problem I get a refund, but sometimes if the seller does not have money in there account for the refund paypal refuses to refund it, then you go to your credit card company and show the goods were never received and you will always win the dispute at least with my card company (AMEX)
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8043139 - 02/19/08 02:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Today I got a call from NCO, a collection agency owned by Verizon. The lady was a stupid bitch of the fist degree, and after explaining why it is not me who is responsible for the buyer's own debt to paypal she started reciting Paypal's idiotic fairytale about how my issue is with the buyer, and how I need to get them to pay up.
I told her I'm not paying, and she threatened "then your account will sit here and rot" and that I'd be marked with bad credit (on Paypal? don't give a fuck). I said I couldn't care less if a Paypal account rotted since I'm never touching the shit-thing again, and then she threatened "we'll call you every day, I have some people here who've been holding out for over a year, they get called every day," in an absolutely attemptively intimidating tone. I just hung up on her.
My thirst for suing Paypal is now greater than ever, and I don't care what is said in their user policy about having to go to Cali if I want to take them to court, or whatever else. There has to be a way to succeed, there have to be laws outside of Paypal that trump their claims of being able to do whatever shit treatment they want to sellers.
I'd love to sue NCO or Verizon aswell, on grounds of harassment, and maybe this can be done if I bear enough of their moronic calls and record them.
Again, help me sue. I can't see this going away until it happens.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8043662 - 02/19/08 05:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If it shows up on your credit report, you can dispute it.
If the bitch calls again tell her you are familiar with the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act. If you told the collector you have no intention of paying, they can't call anymore. Once you file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission, you can sue for harassment and then use the judgment to pay the debt.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8043749 - 02/19/08 05:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pull a Jim Florentine and fuck with them every time they call. Record it and put it on the net. I'd listen to it for sure, dude.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8043822 - 02/19/08 05:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Paypal owe YOU $400 not the other way round!
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8043842 - 02/19/08 05:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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first step is to print everything related to this.
and althow you signed a contract, laws very state to state and i believe a contract has to be just and fair, so you might be able to make them come to court in your state...IF your the one who files the lawsuit. make sure its you before them if thats the route your going.
also what paypal says is stupid, you have a contract through EBAY that says he DID want the product.
honestly i would sease all communication right now and go stright to court.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: makaveli8x8]
#8043850 - 02/19/08 05:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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oh and don't forget all your phone, email, ect is recorded...be respectful because it will be brought up in court
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8043952 - 02/19/08 06:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Disco Cat said: Today I got a call from NCO, a collection agency owned by Verizon. The lady was a stupid bitch of the fist degree, and after explaining why it is not me who is responsible for the buyer's own debt to paypal she started reciting Paypal's idiotic fairytale about how my issue is with the buyer, and how I need to get them to pay up.
I told her I'm not paying, and she threatened "then your account will sit here and rot" and that I'd be marked with bad credit (on Paypal? don't give a fuck). I said I couldn't care less if a Paypal account rotted since I'm never touching the shit-thing again, and then she threatened "we'll call you every day, I have some people here who've been holding out for over a year, they get called every day," in an absolutely attemptively intimidating tone. I just hung up on her.
My thirst for suing Paypal is now greater than ever, and I don't care what is said in their user policy about having to go to Cali if I want to take them to court, or whatever else. There has to be a way to succeed, there have to be laws outside of Paypal that trump their claims of being able to do whatever shit treatment they want to sellers.
I'd love to sue NCO or Verizon aswell, on grounds of harassment, and maybe this can be done if I bear enough of their moronic calls and record them.
Again, help me sue. I can't see this going away until it happens.
Fuck ya! This situation sucks, but i would take a lot of satisfaction telling those fuckers where to stick it! I hope everything turns out OK.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8044253 - 02/19/08 07:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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they won't sue you, if anything they'll put it on your credit.. I scammed people with a paypal account a few years ago before I was 18 and the account was negative and nothing ever happened, they just locked it.
fuck collection agencies, I think I could make those fuckers never want to call me again if they tried to pull some shit like that
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Caribou_Lou]
#8044384 - 02/19/08 07:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I hate to re-iterate, but everything I posted is true. It's practically a step-by-step on how to solve this issue.
If anything shows up on your credit report, dispute it.
If they call again, refuse to pay. Once you refuse to pay, it is against the law for them to harass you. Tell the operator that you are familiar with the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act.
Once they call again and they will, find a lawyer that specializes in Fair Debt Collections Practices Act. The lawyer will help you file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission and help you sue NCO. Since NCO is harassing you and not Paypal, you will not be bound by Paypal's contract to meet in California.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: YidakiMan]
#8044534 - 02/19/08 08:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just make sure that you prank the people who call you and record it. Then upload it for us to hear.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: YidakiMan]
#8044675 - 02/19/08 08:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Alright, I'll follow that advice. I've already told both her and Paypal that I'm not paying, so if I get one more phonecall I should be in the position to take action. I wish I had some method of recording the calls tho.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Learyfan]
#8044698 - 02/19/08 08:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'd like to do that. I plan to phone Paypal's customer service and let them know that I turned down NCO's offer to pay them, and that they wasted money on their service. Also, I want to mention that the lady suggested I sue Paypal, and ask if a low education is their reason for working for such a scumbag company. I'll also tell them that I've had no choice but to indefinitely freeze their business opportunity of receiving the benefit of my use of their service until they've paid up my account, + $400 extra in stupidity fees. I also want to tell paypal's cus. service individual detailed stories about people I told should not use paypal, and how they listened and accepted my advice.
But I don't know how I can record my phonecalls.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Disco Cat]
#8045056 - 02/19/08 09:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Disco Cat said: Alright, I'll follow that advice. I've already told both her and Paypal that I'm not paying, so if I get one more phonecall I should be in the position to take action. I wish I had some method of recording the calls tho.
Just record the date and time is enough. According to the law the collector has to identify themselves when asked.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: YidakiMan]
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: makaveli8x8]
#8048133 - 02/20/08 04:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: speakerphone + recorder
Yeah, but people do it professionally somehow. The Jim Florentine and the Touch Tone Terrorists somehow record it very professionally. I wish I knew how to tell you to do it. I guess if I knew how to do it, I'd be recording my calls already.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Learyfan]
#8048194 - 02/20/08 04:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was once working in a lawyers office and they had a little box that sat on the floor hooked inbetween the phone line and the phone. The phone person would hit the button with their foot to record.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Stizzle]
#8048252 - 02/20/08 05:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh yeah, I remember seeing a device like that in that Harriet Carter book.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: Learyfan]
#8050849 - 02/21/08 08:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes look at spy sites and stuff they are for sale all over I have one for my landline as for cell phones I don't know.
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Re: Paypal is scum, should die, help me sue [Re: makaveli8x8]
#8051913 - 02/21/08 01:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The only recording device I have is the microphones hooked up to my computer, which is pretty far from the phone base without any phone jacks nearby. Meh.
Also, they're continuing to phone.
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