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Does Race Matter?
#7919784 - 01/23/08 12:57 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Aside from the fact that certain races are more likely to contract certain diseases, what, if any, true and important differences are there between the races?
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i dont even know where to start..
yes, race matters.
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Genetically humans are very closely related. A northern European is more closely related to someone from Asia then two monkeys in the same group. Its thought this is because sometime during human history the human population was reduced to just a few thousand individuals. They found where Humans probably started by finding where there was the most genetic diversity in one group. It was in central Africa. I believe environment and society is what causes the differences we see today. Also, I've heard that the reasons why African Americans are more likely to have certain diseases is because of the individuals who would have survived on slave ships. Such as individuals with high blood pressure.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: cactastic]
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so because they had high blood pressure they survived on the slave ship?
interesting.
i'm sure all the european immigrants had such different conditions that high blood pressure became less prevalent.
i have a feeling that it is more genetic than anything.. like since they are used to living in arid regions (having dark skin, oily hair, and a flat nose) they had to adapt to the heat by having high blood pressure. now i dont know if that would even help or hinder them, but it's a hypothesis. i dont know shit about high blood pressure but i would think that it's genetic and not just trying to blame the white man for their genetic problems.
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Sickle cell was developed prominently in Blacks and Arabs populations because of the high level of malaria in the region, along with a lactose intolerance build up because the availability fertile land and abundant meat. While Whites relied on milk as a major source of protein, since the cold winters, developed tougher/more enzymes to break down milk. Whites and Asians are more likely to osteoporosis because of their relative thin bones...lack of protein.
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drkrobotnik said: i dont even know where to start..
yes, race matters.
Can you elaborate?
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Well from most geneticist's point of view there isn't even such a thing as race...i.e. no significant genetic difference between races.
If race is merely a social construction than it isn't even real, and can be erased.
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gluke bastid said: Well from most geneticist's point of view there isn't even such a thing as race...i.e. no significant genetic difference between races.
If race is merely a social construction than it isn't even real, and can be erased.
Of course there are genetic differences between races. Otherwise white people could have black children.
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I guess I'm getting my language wrong.
I thought skin color was a trait, like blue eyes, not a difference in genes?
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Well race does amount to a collection of genetic traits, the way I see it. Eye color is genetic too as far as I know.
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Would you mind elaborating on your question? Does it matter to whom? Why? In what way?
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Veritas]
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yeah; and is betting involved? and how much did you wager?
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Veritas]
#7920798 - 01/23/08 05:25 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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What I'm getting at is: Is there enough physical and/or psychological distinction between the races for us to continue distinguishing between them?
To whom? All human beings, as this matter concerns all of us. I believe this is important because categorizing people by race truly be a superfluous and, as history has demonstrated, potentially dangerous practice.
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ya nigs have an extra muscle in their leg.. everyone knows that.. that's why they're faster and can jump higher than whites. this is probably bullshit.. our coaches used to tell us this to try to get us to push ourselves even further. :P
race is deterministic of culture or is it the other way around? it's debatable but i say that in my personal endeavor towards being accepting i accept people for who they are, and not their race.
i believe your race defines you as a person, though.. and some people are more defined than others..
there are just ways things are and some things are never going to change.. but look how much things have changed in the past forty years.. you never know.
maybe one day there will be only one race, a blend of everybody..
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There are physical differences associated with particular ethnic backgrounds, and there are psychological differences associated with different cultures and family systems. So what?
Does my European and British Isles ancestry mean something about me as an individual? Sure. Does it mean enough for others to need to know about it & make decisions about me based upon it? No way.
There is one race: human. All the little details are even less genetically significant than the difference between a German Shepherd and an Akita.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Veritas]
#7921463 - 01/23/08 07:51 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Race clearly matters from an evolutionary point of view. A small group of humanity's ancestors split up a few hundred thousand years ago, and each branch adapted to the environment in which they came to live. Had this separation gone on indefinitely, it would have lead to several different species of human. Taxonomically speaking, races are varieties of Homo sapiens the same way German shepherds and Shitzues are different varieties of dogs.
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the criminal justice system extends a profoundly racist way of categorizing, coralling, and criminalizing black people. It is nearly impossible for black people to escape harrassment from this. it should not matter but it is made to matter by the status quo in the criminal justice system. george bush on down. deprive new orleans it's upgraded levys then after near annihilation and disruption, privatize the school systems, in case there is any shortage of reasons to fail this will help keep blacks in trouble.
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gluke bastid said: Well from most geneticist's point of view there isn't even such a thing as race...i.e. no significant genetic difference between races.
If race is merely a social construction than it isn't even real, and can be erased.
This perspective is shared by Physical Anthropologists and Sociologists. Race is a social construct. There is no substantial difference between races. Skin and eye colour is simply an adaptive mutation. Swine Pink skin (aka: white skin) is a mutation that flourished in the northern latitudes of Europe because it made it easier to absorb vitamin D in the relatively sunless, dark environment of the north. Differences in the concentration of melanin or cranial structure tendencies really don't result in great enough difference to continue to segregate people into races. The concept of race was first concieved of by ignorant European Anthropologists in the 19th century, looking for justification for the notion that white people were somehow inherently superior to the rest of humanity, those justifying colonial expansionism. It's a load of shit.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: NiamhNyx]
#7921527 - 01/23/08 08:09 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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But on that note, race does 'matter' with regards to politics, as racial discrimination exists with a fury. We really can't be 'color blind'; it's necessary to recognize and confront the existence of pervasive, institutionalized racism.
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AnastomosisJihad said: Race clearly matters from an evolutionary point of view. A small group of humanity's ancestors split up a few hundred thousand years ago, and each branch adapted to the environment in which they came to live. Had this separation gone on indefinitely, it would have lead to several different species of human. Taxonomically speaking, races are varieties of Homo sapiens the same way German shepherds and Shitzues are different varieties of dogs.
I'm sorry, but that's a load of shit. There's way more difference between a german shephard and a Shitzue than there is between a chinese person and a white person. Which race gets to be the strong and noble german shephard and which is the yappy little shit hound? Hmm... very questionable analogy.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Veritas]
#7921748 - 01/23/08 08:42 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Veritas said: There are physical differences associated with particular ethnic backgrounds, and there are psychological differences associated with different cultures and family systems. So what?
Does my European and British Isles ancestry mean something about me as an individual? Sure. Does it mean enough for others to need to know about it & make decisions about me based upon it? No way.
There is one race: human. All the little details are even less genetically significant than the difference between a German Shepherd and an Akita.
I don't know why you mentioned ethnicity, as that's completely different from the idea of race. Ethnicity relates to one's country of origin; race relates to physical appearance (usually).
I agree with you that there is only one race of human, and that is plain and simple Homo Sapien.
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It's not a "race" that makes us human, it's those of us that are human that make the race.
A human being can roll a ball to another, its up to the other if he/she rolls it back.
People with pure blood tend to be to proud, or they allow themselfs to be brain washed into thinking their better. My dad is pure serbian, he always talks shit about other races, my mom is a mutt, im a mutt.
I know i'm a good person with good intentions, but because im mixed between diffrent genetics, does it make me bad?
people are way to caught up in "appearence"
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Pr0_X]
#7921799 - 01/23/08 08:52 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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I doubt that it's generally true that 'people of pure blood' tend to be proud of it. I'm pretty much pure white. More like pure swine pink. Ethnically Irish, to be precise. I'm not particularly proud or ashamed of it. It's just the facts of my genetic background.
Your dad's excessive ethnic pride probably arises from being socialised in a culture that is rife with extreme ethnic tension. There have been wars and genocides in the Balkans for generations over this shit. It's insane. I'm sure you already know that, I just wanted to make sure it's clear that ethnic pride has nothing to do with 'blood' and a lot more to do with learning from the people around us.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: NiamhNyx]
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You said it better then I could NiamhNyx
im loving this section of the forum more and more.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: NiamhNyx]
#7921849 - 01/23/08 09:02 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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You are right; that analogy was too strong. The differences between the human races are like the differences between strains of marijuana or mushrooms.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Pr0_X]
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I know i'm a good person with good intentions, but because im mixed between diffrent genetics, does it make me bad?
No, racial interbreeding can be a good thing and it will eventually eliminate races entirely as the best aspects of each race combine into a single dominate hybrid.
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No, racial interbreeding can be a good thing and it will eventually eliminate races entirely as the best aspects of each race combine into a single dominate hybrid.
This idea freaks me out a little. Why do so many people think that eliminating diversity is such a good idea? I'm definitely all for having mixed race babies all over the place-- but the notion of interbreeding to the inevitable conclusion of being one giant hybrid 'race' and there are no discernable physical differences between people is kinda creepy. I think it's awesome that people come in so many different shapes, sizes and colours. It keeps things interesting.
I once had a boyfriend who was convinced this was the only true solution to racism. Eliminate difference. I can tell you, that relationship didn't last much longer.
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Ethnic Of or relating to a sizable group of people sharing a common and distinctive racial, national, religious, linguistic, or cultural heritage.
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Race 1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics. 2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race. 3. A genealogical line; a lineage. 4. Humans considered as a group. 5. Biology 1. An interbreeding, usually geographically isolated population of organisms differing from other populations of the same species in the frequency of hereditary traits. A race that has been given formal taxonomic recognition is known as a subspecies. 2. A breed or strain, as of domestic animals. 6. A distinguishing or characteristic quality, such as the flavor of a wine.
Obviously there is quite a bit of overlap between these two terms. I use "ethnic" because it includes other aspects of individuality which are often mistakenly identified with race.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Veritas]
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Right, and you were correct in doing so. There can be overlap between those two concepts, depending on how you choose to define those terms. Ethnicity does not necessarily imply a certain race, just as race does not necessarily imply a certain ethnicity. My point is that we need to be sure we're making a distinction between race and ethnicity.
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I think that ethnicity has much more influence over the characteristics a particular individual will exhibit than race alone. While physical characteristics may have more to do with genetic "race" (somewhat of a misnomer, as there is only one type of human), the cultural group in which one is raised & with which one identifies matters more.
We all came from Africa originally, and this origin is not far in our past in evolutionary time. As I said, so what?
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Veritas]
#7922290 - 01/23/08 10:29 PM (16 years, 9 days ago) |
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Race will matter as long as people think it matters.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Veritas]
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We all came from Africa originally, and this origin is not far in our past in evolutionary time. As I said, so what?
The most fun you can possibly have with a white supremacist is to explain the evidence for this fact and to add on the obvious implication: that the earliest ancestors of every single person alive today (including the white supremacist himself) would have been 'black.'
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Veritas]
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Veritas said: I think that ethnicity has much more influence over the characteristics a particular individual will exhibit than race alone. While physical characteristics may have more to do with genetic "race" (somewhat of a misnomer, as there is only one type of human), the cultural group in which one is raised & with which one identifies matters more.
We all came from Africa originally, and this origin is not far in our past in evolutionary time. As I said, so what?
I'm not arguing that race matters. I said I agree with you, in that race, being something defined by physical characteristics, is a foolish concept. You're right, we should be asking ourselves, So what?
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Veritas]
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I thought the point of the thread was to question whether the concept of race had any merit. As it is based on trivial genetic variation it clearly doesn't. Ethnicity, on the other hand, is based on cultural and linguistic differences and thus has more grounding in reality and more basis recognizing as an authentic institution.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: NiamhNyx]
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Yes, I agree. However, ethnicity also refers to racial differences, along with broader aspects of human cultures. It can be difficult to tease out the actual genetic characteristics of race, as those of differing genetic backgrounds are usually raised within a related culture.
I think that minor genetic differences between humans matter very little. Am I a better person because I have hazel eyes? Does my wavy hair indicate higher intelligence?
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: NiamhNyx]
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I thought there were Mongoloid, Caucasoid, and Negroid are the only differences as far as race goes, being broken into 3 types, each with genetic issues confined mainly withing that group....ahhh I can't think right now so I am gonna not bother...lol
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There is one thing above all others that characterizes "race" as it is usually understood: skin colour.
Skin colour is determined by the distance from the Earth's equator, and thus from the sun's light...with persons living close to the equator having dark skin and persons living near the poles having lighter skin.
If you look at it, there isn't really a "dividing point" among the skin colours. It is a progressive thing, with the most white people at the poles and the most dark people at the equator, and everything in between.
We started our existence on this planet as one species...and we remain as one species.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Veritas]
#7923621 - 01/24/08 10:04 AM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Am I a better person because I have hazel eyes?
No. It's that cute dimple.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: trendal]
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trendal said: There is one thing above all others that characterizes "race" as it is usually understood: skin colour.
Skin colour is determined by the distance from the Earth's equator, and thus from the sun's light...with persons living close to the equator having dark skin and persons living near the poles having lighter skin.
If you look at it, there isn't really a "dividing point" among the skin colours. It is a progressive thing, with the most white people at the poles and the most dark people at the equator, and everything in between.
We started our existence on this planet as one species...and we remain as one species.
Exactly. But unfortunately the majority of United States society does not see it that way.
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I have two cats. They are both definitely cats, yet one has a larger body and entirely different markings than the other.
Does the fact that they have different colour fur make them different "species"?
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: trendal]
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said: Am I a better person because I have hazel eyes?
No. It's that cute dimple.
Not to mention my great smile!
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vigilant_mind said: Aside from the fact that certain races are more likely to contract certain diseases, what, if any, true and important differences are there between the races?
Most scientists are too afraid to touch race and, consequentially, if there are real, identifiable differences between races, we sure as hell don't have any evidence of it.
Statistically, difference races perform differently, but it is impossible to disentangle whether this is cultural or genetic.
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There is quite a bit of research concerning racial differences as they relate to health. As far as intelligence, violent tendencies, criminality, etc... there are too many confounding factors to allow for scientific study.
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We hashed this out real good here a few years ago. If you're interested:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4724333#Post4724333
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: NiamhNyx]
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What i wanna know is... Were we all black and some of us turned white or were we all white and some of us turned black? What came first the chicken or the egg?
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: mycould]
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Humanity seems to have originated in Africa, so it would be black.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: mycould]
#7926348 - 01/24/08 08:18 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Black came first. There are several pretty good reasons for accepting this, probably more than I am aware of.
First of all, as Icelander pointed out, our species originated in Africa, so our earliest ancestors would probably have been dark skinned. At some point there was a migration out of Africa and into the rest of the world. Notice that the only people on the planet with 'white' skin and blue or green eyes are in Europe. Everywhere else in the world, people have black hair, brown eyes and some shade of brown skin. This clearly indicates that white skin/blond hair/green/blue eyes is the mutation, not vice versa. It makes sense, as Europe is colder and darker, being that it is at a higher latitude, and there would have been genetic selection in the region in favor of paler skin, as it allows for more efficient absorption of vitamin D from less intense sun.
There you have it. The evidence is pretty conclusive, and there is pretty broad consensus in the Physical Anthropology and Genetics communities that this is the obvious answer.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: NiamhNyx]
#7926588 - 01/24/08 08:49 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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was Jesus black?
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No, he was of Middle Eastern descent, if he actually existed.
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Quote:
drkrobotnik said: was Jesus black?
I think he was Cuban.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Icelander]
#7929485 - 01/25/08 12:15 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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No, he was a Mexican named HehSUS (Jesus in Spanish).
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Diploid]
#7929491 - 01/25/08 12:16 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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You're right. I've seen him. He works a construction crew in my town.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Icelander]
#7929550 - 01/25/08 12:26 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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He used to come to my cafe and buy coffees for the younger, broker mexican construction workers. Jesus was a really generous guy!
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: NiamhNyx]
#7929559 - 01/25/08 12:29 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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I heard he could turn water into coffee
(with the addition of only a few beans, it's a miracle)
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Icelander]
#7929588 - 01/25/08 12:33 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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I was impressed when he parted the 1/2 and 1/2.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Veritas]
#7929593 - 01/25/08 12:35 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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I you V.
(is this off topic? )
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Veritas]
#7929636 - 01/25/08 12:41 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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What's so hard about that? I can part my hair.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Diploid]
#7929654 - 01/25/08 12:46 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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What's left of it?
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Veritas]
#7929661 - 01/25/08 12:47 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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ouch, ouch, ouch!
I was going to say that but I'm not the mean one.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Veritas]
#7929806 - 01/25/08 01:23 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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Aha, but I got the good genes in the family. My younger brother is a chrome dome since early 20s. I'm 40-something and still have all original hair with no drug assist. 
Keeping from getting fat, that's another story.
/me gets out the bike.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Diploid]
#7929815 - 01/25/08 01:25 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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Oooh, baby, all your original hair? You've GOT to come and visit us now.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: Veritas]
#7929829 - 01/25/08 01:27 PM (16 years, 7 days ago) |
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Look out Diploid. She's a tigress.
But don't worry I will run interference. I am an animal trainer.
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Re: Does Race Matter? [Re: NiamhNyx]
#7933772 - 01/26/08 05:45 AM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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Does race matter?
Socially: Yes Politically: It shouldn't Universally: No
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